Do you believe that Christians don't believe in evolution?

glen

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Evolution is accepted as fact by most people who can read including Christians.
Dragging out the handful who don't believe in in it and riddiculing them is missguided, as they are such an incredibly small minority it servers no purpose.
I know they are ass chappers.
I really do, and they annoy me too, but sheesh...every religion has a handful of numnuts.
 

Kadarin

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The problem is that those same numbnuts are quite vocal, and push for legislation to force schools to teach "Creationism" instead of evolution.
 

Kerouactivist

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I think the problem is that some don't but, their is a huge group that try to balence creationism and science in a wierd way, that just comes out being totally ignorant.
 

glen

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The problem is that those same numbnuts are quite vocal, and push for legislation to force schools to teach "Creationism" instead of evolution.

That is a real problem.
But, I am telling you there are very few.
I also believe that communities ought to have some autonomy on what is taught in the schools, even if it is idiotic.
The public school system is unaceptable in many parts of the country, so private schools are the only option for many already.
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: glen
The problem is that those same numbnuts are quite vocal, and push for legislation to force schools to teach "Creationism" instead of evolution.

That is a real problem.
But, I am telling you there are very few.
I also believe that communities ought to have some autonomy on what is taught in the schools, even if it is idiotic.
The public school system is unaceptable in many parts of the country, so private schools are the only option for many already.


What kind of autonomy are you talking about here?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: bthorny
Originally posted by: glen
The problem is that those same numbnuts are quite vocal, and push for legislation to force schools to teach "Creationism" instead of evolution.

That is a real problem.
But, I am telling you there are very few.
I also believe that communities ought to have some autonomy on what is taught in the schools, even if it is idiotic.
The public school system is unaceptable in many parts of the country, so private schools are the only option for many already.


What kind of autonomy are you talking about here?

If the federal government is footing the bill for those same public schools, then it should be up to the federal government to approve the curriculum. Otherwise, you run the risk of kids being taught according to local community standards, which can be quite fundamentalist in some areas. Schools should be centers of learning and reason, not ignorance and dogma.
 

Amused

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You wouldn't think I would be "sheltered" growing up in SoCal, but...

The first time I ever heard someone deny evolution, dinasours, and the fact that the world is billions of years old was in basic training in the Army.

It was some redneck kid from Kentucky with barely enough intelligence to tie his damn boots. He was sitting there insisting the world was only 6000 years old, and that dinasours were a plot of the devil. I couldn't believe anyone could be this ignorant.
 

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I don't want to get into a major debate, but I'd like to clarify something. The Christian religion believes that God created the heavens and the earth as we know it. Believeing in Evolution as a Christian is hypocritical to their beliefs. Does that makes sense to anyone else?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Placer14
I don't want to get into a major debate, but I'd like to clarify something. The Christian religion believes that God created the heavens and the earth as we know it. Believeing in Evolution as a Christian is hypocritical to their beliefs. Does that makes sense to anyone else?

Only if you take the bible literally.
 

MrPALCO

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The problem "evolutionists" have, is their access to a limited number of realms.
Christians have access to all knowledge and can see the whole.
"Numnuts"? Yes, they are the fools who in their own philosophical vanity have rejected God and cannot see how things really work.

 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
The problem "evolutionists" have, is their access to a limited number of realms.
Christians have access to all knowledge and can see the whole.
the irony :D
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
The problem "evolutionists" have, is their access to a limited number of realms.
Christians have access to all knowledge and can see the whole.
"Numnuts"? Yes, they are the fools who in their own philosophical vanity have rejected God and cannot see how things really work.

I smell rhetoric, and just a little bit of holier than thouism.

 

MikeO

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Placer14
I don't want to get into a major debate, but I'd like to clarify something. The Christian religion believes that God created the heavens and the earth as we know it. Believeing in Evolution as a Christian is hypocritical to their beliefs. Does that makes sense to anyone else?

Only if you take the bible literally.

Why shouldn't Christians take bible literally? Where's the idea from it's not ment to be taken literally?

(serious question btw... I don't know so I hope somebody can clarify this issue)
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
Care to explain?
well, talking about how non-believers have access to limited knowlege while christaians can see the whole
I've always considered those who "knows how the world really is" to have the limited knowlege
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
"I smell rhetoric, and just a little bit of holier than thouism."

Are you "holy"?


holy?

yes their are many holes in my body

Why is that question relavent, is it because if I am not holy I cannot see the whole.

bthorny
/wonders in philisophical vanity


 

MrPALCO

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell rhetoric, and just a little bit of holier than thouism.
You smell Paltroll!



Someone said, "There is nothing more tragic than a man who has spent his life looking for Truth, and then is introduced to it by a close family member. He then because of stubborn pride, spends his energy railing against it in a spirit of folly and ignorance".
Is that you sir?
 

PC Freak

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Just don't mix religon and politics.
The last time we did that people burned at the stake.
 

josphII

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Originally posted by: MrPALCO
The problem "evolutionists" have, is their access to a limited number of realms.
Christians have access to all knowledge and can see the whole.
"Numnuts"? Yes, they are the fools who in their own philosophical vanity have rejected God and cannot see how things really work.

all knowledge? see the whole? religious zelots are the most narrow minded people on the planet!

most religious people wont deni that MICROevolution is indeed fact, however, they will argue profoundly that MACROevolution is pure crapola
 

MrPALCO

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Originally posted by: josphII
religious zelots are the most narrow minded people on the planet!

Someone said: " you sir, are only playing with half a deck".

I interprete that to mean that you do not have access to all the information.

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