Do you believe in the Metaphysical?

onlyCOpunk

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Just wondering. I went to a Psychic today (a lady from my Yoga studio that I trust, but she doesn't know anything about me really) Anyways all of her readings, numerology, tarot and palm reading were like 90% accurate. And I don't mean a bunch of ambiguous statements left open for interpretation like spot on. It was really weird, everything was making sense.
 
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Cold Reading. Theres alot you can tell from a guy's appearance, and you could just say random things, and still have many things that are correct about a person.
 

onlyCOpunk

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Yeah but it wasn't a cold reading because she got really specific with my current situation and recent past events that she would know nothing about and involving people she wouldn't have a clue were in my life.
 

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Yeah but it wasn't a cold reading because she got really specific with my current situation and recent past events that she would know nothing about and involving people she wouldn't have a clue were in my life.

That's what they want you to think ;)
 

onlyCOpunk

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Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Please describe some of these specific examples please.

It's hard to describe the specific examples because they relate to me personally and only i know the specifics that would make them click, because of course everything could be taken as "oh that's just coincidence" or it's an ambiguous answer. She just described the last 9 months of my life to me perfectly as how I'm feeling, what's going on, personal issues.

I mean it wasn't like she just gave me a bunch of mumbo jumbo about my character and spout of adjectives that people like to hear and can "make fit." She talked about specific events and issues, stuff that she doesn't know about me. It was really weird.
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Please describe some of these specific examples please.

It's hard to describe the specific examples because they relate to me personally and only i know the specifics that would make them click, because of course everything could be taken as "oh that's just coincidence" or it's an ambiguous answer. She just described the last 9 months of my life to me perfectly as how I'm feeling, what's going on, personal issues.

I mean it wasn't like she just gave me a bunch of mumbo jumbo about my character and spout of adjectives that people like to hear and can "make fit." She talked about specific events and issues, stuff that she doesn't know about me. It was really weird.

Since no one else will say it, I'll say it.


You're a sucker and a dumbass if you believe in that shit. IMO.
 

gorcorps

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Not sure if hypnotists count, but my school recently had one which I didn't go to because I think it's bogus. BUT a good buddy of mine went and claimed it turned him into a believer.
 

Eeezee

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No, it's 100% bullshit. It's easy to have people believe that your psychic. Any can do a cold/hot reading, and neither requires you to be psychic. You just need to be able to read people. Anyone can do it. ANYONE
 

onlyCOpunk

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Please describe some of these specific examples please.

It's hard to describe the specific examples because they relate to me personally and only i know the specifics that would make them click, because of course everything could be taken as "oh that's just coincidence" or it's an ambiguous answer. She just described the last 9 months of my life to me perfectly as how I'm feeling, what's going on, personal issues.

I mean it wasn't like she just gave me a bunch of mumbo jumbo about my character and spout of adjectives that people like to hear and can "make fit." She talked about specific events and issues, stuff that she doesn't know about me. It was really weird.

Since no one else will say it, I'll say it.


You're a sucker and a dumbass if you believe in that shit. IMO.

That's kind of a crude statement because it's just another way of looking at and interpreting yourself.

The same thing goes for any belief. People say I'll believe when I see it. But you could also say I'll see it when I believe it.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Please describe some of these specific examples please.

It's hard to describe the specific examples because they relate to me personally and only i know the specifics that would make them click, because of course everything could be taken as "oh that's just coincidence" or it's an ambiguous answer. She just described the last 9 months of my life to me perfectly as how I'm feeling, what's going on, personal issues.

I mean it wasn't like she just gave me a bunch of mumbo jumbo about my character and spout of adjectives that people like to hear and can "make fit." She talked about specific events and issues, stuff that she doesn't know about me. It was really weird.
You probably fit right into the video in this thread, too. :laugh:
(I love that video. :D)

"Psychics" are indeed skilled - at manipulating and reading people. It's broad enough that what they say most likely did happen, at least in some way. The wording used will be vague enough so that you will wind up doing most of the work, fitting your own life into what they said.

Here, I'll be psychic quick:
- Sometime in the last 9 months, you had an argument with a friend, but it was quickly over.
- You experienced some considerable stress, but realized that you were able to overcome it.
- You did fun things during the night.
- Ceiling Cat wasn't the only one watching you.
- You could really go for a tasty Coca-Cola right now.
- Did I mention that I sell Coca-Cola?
 

onlyCOpunk

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
No, it's 100% bullshit. It's easy to have people believe that your psychic. Any can do a cold/hot reading, and neither requires you to be psychic. You just need to be able to read people. Anyone can do it. ANYONE

Well I know this woman personally and I don't think she would base her career around a con.

Also it's not turban wearing crystal ball psychic abilities that we are talking about. She wasn't forecasting my future and telling me I'm going to have a wife and 3 kids.

This was different then your storybook psychic.
 

onlyCOpunk

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Please describe some of these specific examples please.

It's hard to describe the specific examples because they relate to me personally and only i know the specifics that would make them click, because of course everything could be taken as "oh that's just coincidence" or it's an ambiguous answer. She just described the last 9 months of my life to me perfectly as how I'm feeling, what's going on, personal issues.

I mean it wasn't like she just gave me a bunch of mumbo jumbo about my character and spout of adjectives that people like to hear and can "make fit." She talked about specific events and issues, stuff that she doesn't know about me. It was really weird.
You probably fit right into the video in this thread, too. :laugh:

"Psychics" are indeed skilled - at manipulating and reading people. It's broad enough that what they say most likely did happen, at least in some way. The wording used will be vague enough so that you will wind up doing most of the work, fitting your own life into what they said.

Here, I'll be psychic quick:
- Sometime in the last 9 months, you had an argument with a friend, but it was quickly over.
- You experienced some considerable stress, but realized that you were able to overcome it.
- You did fun things during the night.
- Ceiling Cat wasn't the only one watching you.
- You could really go for a tasty Coca-Cola right now.
- Did I mention that I sell Coca-Cola?

Funny, but it wasn't trivial shit like that.

I guess it's one of those things that is hard to explain to someone that hasn't experienced the same thing before.
 
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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk

That's kind of a crude statement because it's just another way of looking at and interpreting yourself.

The same thing goes for any belief. People say I'll believe when I see it. But you could also say I'll see it when I believe it.

Keeping an open mind is one thing, but skepticism hardly rules out belief in something. I'm very harshly skeptical of things like this, but that just means that I'll have to be faced with overwhelming evidence to become a convert. If such things are real then that should be no problem.

When belief comes first then seeing will inevitably follow, whether there is anything to see or not. It's just the way people are.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Eeezee
No, it's 100% bullshit. It's easy to have people believe that your psychic. Any can do a cold/hot reading, and neither requires you to be psychic. You just need to be able to read people. Anyone can do it. ANYONE

Well I know this woman personally and I don't think she would base her career around a con.

Also it's not turban wearing crystal ball psychic abilities that we are talking about. She wasn't forecasting my future and telling me I'm going to have a wife and 3 kids.

This was different then your storybook psychic.
Someone I knew and worked with just two semesters ago is now selling a $50 kit to allow you to "run your car off of water." You'd be surprised what people can rationalize themselves into doing.

He had actually come to me for help on this, and had already printed off many packets of information on "free energy." One of them even talked about how "scientists have discovered that dark energy surrounds us everywhere in the Universe." It then said that we could somehow harvest this energy to do who knows what. Nevermind the fact that "dark energy" is not truly energy in the sense that we are familiar with. "Dark" means that it's something which we don't quite know what it is. "Energy" means that it's not at all matter, but something more tenuous in form, just as normal energy could be viewed as a more tenuous form of matter.
Similarly, "dark matter" refers to something "dark" - unknown - that isn't at all like normal matter, but which probably isn't energy.

My thinking is that dark matter and dark energy will turn out to be little more than some sort of error in the equations we use to describe the Universe, and not some mysterious "substances" which are somehow everywhere without directly interacting with normal matter on a regular basis.

So the information he'd printed was junk, but he was really really convinced that the car companies and government were suppressing this information, which obviously explains how he was able to find it all very easily with Google. :) He figured that he could simply use free energy devices to make electricity to power electrolysis to make hydrogen to power a car. Of course, why he wouldn't just use the free energy device to directly power the car, I'll never know.

About a month later, fliers started appearing on campus advertising this "run your car on water" kit. He probably really thinks that he's helping humanity by liberating us from the physicist-chemist-government-automotive conspiracy. What this friend of yours thinks of her "psychic" practice, I don't know. People indulging her fantasy probably isn't helping though.
Also, you mention "knowing her personally." This might also mean that she's privy to some detailed information about you through various social connections.
 

onlyCOpunk

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Like I said she's not a psychic, nor does she pretend to be. I asked her about it once how she found it she had this "power" and she said that everyone has this ability to interpret all of this stuff about people. It's just that many people don't use it whether by choice, disbelief, or ignorant to the fact. And she's been doing this for a long time, she's an older lady, probably in her 60's and said she has been studying and practicing since her 20's.

And granted I know her "personally" from my Yoga studio, she is an instructor, I don't know her that personally that she would know these situations and issues that have recently befallen me as I don't blurt out my personal life in my yoga classes.

By all means I'm not saying that I'm a devout metaphyschicist, I just had a door open up to me today that I hadn't really thought about before. The whole study of this subject intrigues me as well because I am a spiritual person and I do like to think that there is more to humanity then what we see.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Like I said she's not a psychic, nor does she pretend to be. I asked her about it once how she found it she had this "power" and she said that everyone has this ability to interpret all of this stuff about people. It's just that many people don't use it whether by choice, disbelief, or ignorant to the fact. And she's been doing this for a long time, she's an older lady, probably in her 60's and said she has been studying and practicing since her 20's.
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Just wondering. I went to a Psychic today (a lady from my Yoga studio that I trust, but she doesn't know anything about me really) Anyways all of her readings, numerology, tarot and palm reading were like 90% accurate. And I don't mean a bunch of ambiguous statements left open for interpretation like spot on. It was really weird, everything was making sense.



:confused:


It sounds like she's just learned how to read people. If you have a lot of time, and you're tuned into it, other people can become quite predictable creatures.
 

gamepad

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Cold reading is easy. For example, if I were telling the fortune of a hot chick, I'd mention something about her past relationship problems, and then tell her to pursue her ambitions.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Not sure if hypnotists count, but my school recently had one which I didn't go to because I think it's bogus. BUT a good buddy of mine went and claimed it turned him into a believer.

Hypnosis is real, and is not considered metaphysical or paranormal..
I thought it was fake before I knew anything about it, but it's a real physical phenomenon,
Psychologists all learn about it, it's a science, and it's explained by science.