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Do you believe in ghosts?

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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If not you may now. I would love to be at this house on Halloween.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...r-interview-with-her-almost-had-them-fleeing/

Two skeptical journalists were just minutes into an interview with a Pennsylvania homeowner who claims her house is infested with ghostly and demonic forces when they found themselves so scared they almost abandoned the investigative report altogether.
WPMT-TV’s Katie Kyros was recently accompanied by photojournalist Nick Petrillo on a visit to DeAnna Simpson’s home in Hanover, Pennsylvania. Considering that the woman claims she’s seen a seven-foot “shadow man,” heard mysterious voices and experienced rogue scratches, they decided to explore.
But it’s what they say happened just five minutes into the interview that had the two so scared they almost left.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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I wanted to, but the last time some ghosts gave me some stock tips turned out to be bogus. That, was when I stopped believing in ghosts.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I personally don't, but I've heard of so many various stories that it does make me wonder. It's not the one ofs that mean much, as they can easily be explained by whatever circumstances exist. It's the ones where multiple people who never talked to each other say they saw or heard the same thing at a different time. It's plausible that the devil can also play with our minds to see or hear things that are demotic. This would make it very difficult for an outsider to record these occurrences since they arn't physically happening.

There are some recordings in the Bible about people being demon possessed as well, so these supernatural things did happen at one point, whether or not they can/do now is another story.

Speaking of ghosts, my TV turned on by itself a few months ago. The lady that used to live in my house passed away just before Christmas. My TV is a Samsung, turns out they tend to do that. :p This is an example of a situation that could make someone think their house is haunted. But I like to think it's just the old lady wanting to watch Wheel of Fortune. Apparently she was really nice, I only met her once real quick to drop off mail.
 
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John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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I personally don't, but I've heard of so many various stories that it does make me wonder. It's not the one ofs that mean much, as they can easily be explained by whatever circumstances exist. It's the ones where multiple people who never talked to each other say they saw or heard the same thing at a different time. It's plausible that the devil can also play with our minds to see or hear things that are demotic. This would make it very difficult for an outsider to record these occurrences since they arn't physically happening.

There are some recordings in the Bible about people being demon possessed as well, so these supernatural things did happen at one point, whether or not they can/do now is another story.

Speaking of ghosts, my TV turned on by itself a few months ago. The lady that used to live in my house passed away just before Christmas. My TV is a Samsung, turns out they tend to do that. :p This is an example of a situation that could make someone think their house is haunted. But I like to think it's just the old lady wanting to watch Wheel of Fortune. Apparently she was really nice, I only met her once real quick to drop off mail.

My grandma died in our care in our house, but there are no odd happenings here. There were when she died though, but I'm not going to talk about it so the trolls have meat. Like that dumb ass above me.
 

Broheim

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Feb 17, 2011
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nope, I'd sit in that basement free of charge for several days just to prove how little I believe in ghosts.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Nope. Human nature screams against the possibility. If ghosts could bother the living without consequence, ghosts would be everywhere, all the time bugging the crap out of us. This isn't happening, ipso facto, no ghosts.
 

Theb

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Feb 28, 2006
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justoh

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Jun 11, 2013
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I continue to be amazed at what some people will believe.

It is not a coincidence that people who believe in ghosts are normally religious as well.

It IS a coincidence when some guy wins the lottery twice, or your friend calls you just when you happen to think about her, etc.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
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How do EVP's occur?

cheap mics with the gain turned all the way up.

and
Perception is a very complex process, and when our brains try to find patterns, they are guided in part by what we expect to hear. If you are trying to hear your friend while conversing in a noisy room, your brain automatically takes snippets of sound and compares them against possible corresponding words, and guided by context, we can often “hear” more clearly than the sound patterns reaching our ears could account for. Indeed, it is relatively easy to demonstrate in a psychology laboratory that people can readily come to hear “clearly” even very muffled voices, so long as they have a printed version in front of them that tells them what words are being spoken. The brain puts together the visual cue and the auditory input, and we actually “hear” what we are informed is being said, even though without that information, we could discern nothing. Going one step further, and we can demonstrate that people can clearly “hear” voices and words not just in the context of muddled voices, but in a pattern of white noise, a pattern in which there are no voices or words at all.

Given that we can routinely demonstrate this effect, it is only parsimonious to suggest that what people hear with EVP is also the product of their own brains, and their expectations, rather than the voices of the dearly departed.
 

mikeford

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Jan 27, 2001
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I don't believe in the supernatural, but I do believe human perception is easily fooled so that people may experience something that seems very real to them, camera's and other recording devices, not so easily fooled.
 

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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Please stop posting Glenn Beck "news" stories as if they have any credibility whatsoever because they don't. :whiste:

What's next? Glenn Beck has proof that the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot is real? :rolleyes:

the original story is from a local PA news channel, not Glenn Beck.
 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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No.

Any skeptical minded person who examines the evidence (not people's ghost stories) would realise they are just stories. Biological entities die, there is nothing left of them once their brain ceases to function. People are just afraid of death, hence life after death nonsense. Once you get life after death into the mainstream (thanks religion) you get ghosts.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Nope.
The human brain will start hallucinating at the drop of a hat.
And with billions of people dead, you'd think there'd be a hell of a lot more ghosts around.
Then there are the physics-related problems. Many of them. (The usual: Ghosts should be naked and bald, unless nonliving matter such as hair, clothing, and jewelry gets dragged along for the ride into the afterlife.)
That, or else this is indeed all just in a computer somewhere that's running a Universe simulation, and they can screw with physics whenever they feel like it. (Though if you're running a Universe simulation, messing around with some tiny primates on a single planet seems like a terribly specific sort of trolling. Speaking of which...)




Nope. Human nature screams against the possibility. If ghosts could bother the living without consequence, ghosts would be everywhere, all the time bugging the crap out of us. This isn't happening, ipso facto, no ghosts.
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