Do you believe in fate?

BigToquex

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I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm not totally sure what I believe. I do believe that everything happens for a reason. I've also started to believe (against a previous belief) that not everything needs a visible or understandable explanation for why it happened, or why something will happen.

I guess the thing that kinda changed this was during a fight I had with my girlfriend. She didn't want me to do something because she didn't like it. I asked why she didn't like it and she explained to me why. Then I told her that what she was worried about only applied to certain situations and there is no valid reason to dislike what I was doing if I did it in situations that I had just outlined.

I missed something very important in that fight. I missed the fact that regardless of the situation, she doesn't like me doing it. There are no valid reasons why it should bother her, but it still does. I realized that I don't need a valid reason to not do the thing that bothers her. The only reason I need is that it does bother her. No other explanation is necessary.

I guess the above is kinda babbling (or maybe I'm talking about two totally different things), but it made me think that maybe I don't always need to know why something is, rather just to accept that it is.
 

Gyrene

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I believe in fate. Alot of people that don't, don't like the idea that they don't control their life. I believe in fate, but I also believe that it can be changed if you really want it to.
 
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Originally posted by: BigToque
She didn't want me to do something because she didn't like it. I asked why she didn't like it and she explained to me why. Then I told her that what she was worried about only applied to certain situations and there is no valid reason to dislike what I was doing if I did it in situations that I had just outlined.

I missed something very important in that fight. I missed the fact that regardless of the situation, she doesn't like me doing it. There are no valid reasons why it should bother her, but it still does.


that isnt fate...thats just a woman
 

Nocturnal

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Everything happens for a reason and my belief is that God does things for certain reasons. I got beaten up in 9th grade beyond recognition. I got knocked with bats, poles, clubs, anything you can imagine. Ten + guys were hammering away on me. I did not black out -- I only got a black eye and some nice pole marks indented into my head. I did not die. I mean I think I was put here to do some things past that day in my life. So yes, I do believe in fate.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: BigToque
She didn't want me to do something because she didn't like it. I asked why she didn't like it and she explained to me why. Then I told her that what she was worried about only applied to certain situations and there is no valid reason to dislike what I was doing if I did it in situations that I had just outlined.

I missed something very important in that fight. I missed the fact that regardless of the situation, she doesn't like me doing it. There are no valid reasons why it should bother her, but it still does.


that isnt fate...thats just a woman

woman += (whipcrack); :D

It depends on what it is she doesn't like and how important that is to you compared to her whether it matters if she doesn't like it.

There are a few "showstoppers" which my gf must accept or she can hit the road. Luckily for both of us, she accepts them.
 

Yax

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Everything happens for a reason and my belief is that God does things for certain reasons. I got beaten up in 9th grade beyond recognition. I got knocked with bats, poles, clubs, anything you can imagine. Ten + guys were hammering away on me. I did not black out -- I only got a black eye and some nice pole marks indented into my head. I did not die. I mean I think I was put here to do some things past that day in my life. So yes, I do believe in fate.

So God created you as a punching bag eh.

I don't believe there's such a thing as fate. For those who believe in fate, if they got hit by a car its fate, if they don't its fate so how can you agrue against someone who believes in it.

 

Hossenfeffer

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While I don't know if I fervently believe in fate, I sure have plenty of times where I pull a Keanu and say "Woah, must have been fate".
 

Sideswipe001

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Depends on how you define Fate.

I don't believe that everything we do is already pre-determined. I do believe that things will happen to us based on our actions though, and sometimes those consquences are unavoidable.

But ultimately we all control our own life to make whatever we want to out of it.

You are right about doing or not doing something though - at least when it comes to a relationship. I've known girls who didn't think there was a problem with them hanging out with/going out with "friends" who are guys when they are in a serious relationship with someone else. That would "bother" me, even if they didn't see anythign wrong with it. Sometimes you just don't do things for the sake of someone else's feelings, when you're dating them.
 

CChaos

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Everything happens for a reason and my belief is that God does things for certain reasons. I got beaten up in 9th grade beyond recognition. I got knocked with bats, poles, clubs, anything you can imagine. Ten + guys were hammering away on me. I did not black out -- I only got a black eye and some nice pole marks indented into my head. I did not die. I mean I think I was put here to do some things past that day in my life. So yes, I do believe in fate.

So God created you as a punching bag eh.

I don't believe there's such a thing as fate. For those who believe in fate, if they got hit by a car its fate, if they don't its fate so how can you agrue against someone who believes in it.

LOL. That was my first thought too man. God wanted your ass beat.

I don't believe in fate or God.
 

fonzinator

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Good question and I liked your thoughts! Here's my opinion befiefly described...I believe that everything happens for a reason, but I don't believe in "fate." Rather, I ascribe what most would call "fate," to the soverignty of God. This soverignty governs every event of our lives, down to the smallest detail. Based on Romans 8:9, I know "...that in all things, God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." So, as a believer in Jesus Christ, I can trust that God works EVERY SINGLE EVENT for my good!! I can trust in God's prefect plan for me in any tragedy or joy, and be at peace with that.
 

Gyrene

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Everything happens for a reason and my belief is that God does things for certain reasons. I got beaten up in 9th grade beyond recognition. I got knocked with bats, poles, clubs, anything you can imagine. Ten + guys were hammering away on me. I did not black out -- I only got a black eye and some nice pole marks indented into my head. I did not die. I mean I think I was put here to do some things past that day in my life. So yes, I do believe in fate.

So God created you as a punching bag eh.

I don't believe there's such a thing as fate. For those who believe in fate, if they got hit by a car its fate, if they don't its fate so how can you agrue against someone who believes in it.

Why argue, let them believe what they believe.
 

LordMaul

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Somewhat. We may have a purpose here, but I think it's up to us as to whether or not we actually do it.
 

BigToquex

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I guess I dont believe in fate if the definition is that everything in our lives is pre-determined.

There are some things that I am supposed to do. Whatever the things I am supposed to do, the opportunities will present themselves. What I do with those opportunities is up to me. My life has to have some purpose or I would not exist.