What happens when you die? There is no judgment. There is no heaven or hell. You just die. Can millions of people throughout century upon century be wrong about religion (and its nonexistent-self). I accept people for what they believe in. I am not religious. I am afraid of death because I know I will not be around one day to see time pass. I can?t do anything about it. I educate myself, get a job, retire, and die. (Hopefully I will live a long life). Seriously what is up with this human cycle of life? The only real purpose of life is to reproduce and survive. We are no different than any other animal/organism on this planet. We all share the same fate of nothingness in the future. We cannot flee death. We are made of energy just like that rotting piece of bread between your couch. Our energy will be distributed to the land for energy for others when we die. To me that is much more beautiful than a self-fulfilling place like heaven.
Do you believe in a heaven? Afterlife?
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UberNeuman
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I was talking with a member on here about this last night.
From a P.M. I sent her.
If you want to know what I think happens when you die, I'll be happy to tell you!
The human brain works on energy (chemically produced electricity) Energy (according to Einstein) be changed but not destroyed.
I think "Heaven" is the mass collection of all the energy that went before us and all that will come.
Does this energy retain some form of consciousness? I would like to think so. Is Jesus there? No doubt!
I also thing that GOD is the SAME as "Heaven" the collected consciousness of all the beings that ever lived. I think Hell is the frame of mind you carry with you after death. As is heaven. If you die in the right state of mind, you spend eternity in heaven, if not hell.
On a sort of related topic. If you ever get the chance, read "the Tibetan Book of the Dead".
Another good set of books are "life after life" and "reflections on life after life" By Dr. James Moody.
These books were written after Dr. Moody talked with people who had had near death experiences. It's interesting that all people had VERY similar experiences regardless of their religious beliefs.
And for all, it was a pleasant experience except for those who had tried to take their own lives. For them it was BAD. They said all the problems they had tried to escape by killing themselves where still there!
(Hell)
From a P.M. I sent her.
If you want to know what I think happens when you die, I'll be happy to tell you!
The human brain works on energy (chemically produced electricity) Energy (according to Einstein) be changed but not destroyed.
I think "Heaven" is the mass collection of all the energy that went before us and all that will come.
Does this energy retain some form of consciousness? I would like to think so. Is Jesus there? No doubt!
I also thing that GOD is the SAME as "Heaven" the collected consciousness of all the beings that ever lived. I think Hell is the frame of mind you carry with you after death. As is heaven. If you die in the right state of mind, you spend eternity in heaven, if not hell.
On a sort of related topic. If you ever get the chance, read "the Tibetan Book of the Dead".
Another good set of books are "life after life" and "reflections on life after life" By Dr. James Moody.
These books were written after Dr. Moody talked with people who had had near death experiences. It's interesting that all people had VERY similar experiences regardless of their religious beliefs.
And for all, it was a pleasant experience except for those who had tried to take their own lives. For them it was BAD. They said all the problems they had tried to escape by killing themselves where still there!
(Hell)
I don't believe there's a heaven. I think that when you die, you get buried and then you rot in the ground.
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The human brain works on energy (chemically produced electricity) Energy (according to Einstein) be changed but not destroyed.
Right, your energy in your cells is changed to heat and is given off as your body cools to a cold, hard mass. Rigor is a really strange thing to feel in a dead body if I do say so myself...
As for a persons "soul" which cannot be measured, that question has been around, and will stay around, forever I think.
Right, your energy in your cells is changed to heat and is given off as your body cools to a cold, hard mass. Rigor is a really strange thing to feel in a dead body if I do say so myself...
As for a persons "soul" which cannot be measured, that question has been around, and will stay around, forever I think.
kydlynx, why do you have to post this here? Are you so unsure of what you believe that you have to spout this off? These posts are neither constructive nor helpful, as they'll likely start "Yet Another Flamewar?".
When you die, you fall asleep. Every heard the saying "laying someone to rest" at a cemetary?
There is a heaven, but not too many people are home right now.
Once Christ comes, he'll judge the living and the dead and then those who are saved will go to heaven with Him (aka raptured).
I know it's not the normal Christian belief, but that's what the Scriptures say.
Would be happy to give versus if requested
There is a heaven, but not too many people are home right now.
Once Christ comes, he'll judge the living and the dead and then those who are saved will go to heaven with Him (aka raptured).
I know it's not the normal Christian belief, but that's what the Scriptures say.
Would be happy to give versus if requested
<< kydlynx, why do you have to post this here? Are you so unsure of what you believe that you have to spout this off? These posts are neither constructive nor helpful, as they'll likely start "Yet Another Flamewar?". >>
all great minds question. i am very openminded. you however seem that you cannot handle discrepancies. maybe you are insecure about what you belive in. these posts are completlely constructive. this is a forum of opinions. you have no clue what you are talking about.
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<< this is a forum of opinions. you have no clue what you are talking about. >>
you offered your opinion and he offered his... you seem to be lacking a clue...
<< As for a persons "soul" which cannot be measured, that question has been around, and will stay around, forever I think. >>
I heard that "they" did studies where they weighed people right before death and again right after death, and there were a few ounces they were just gone and unaccounted for.
The "SOUL"??
Who knows.
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I heard that "they" did studies where they weighed people right before death and again right after death, and there were a few ounces they were just gone and unaccounted for.
The lost weight could be many things, urine, bowel movements, even air in lungs. People will piss and sh|t whenever they have anything in their bladder or bowels, trust me, I have seen it lots and hate it every time. (Code Brown! or Code Yellow!)
Air weighs, although very little, a bit too. If you have ever done any SCUBA diving you would know this because your tanks weigh much more at the start of a dive than at the end of a dive. As instructors we would say that "fear floats" because scared divers take deep breaths and become more boyant (ok, somebody hit me I took such a huge tangent here).
<edit> see my first two paragraphs only please </edit>
The lost weight could be many things, urine, bowel movements, even air in lungs. People will piss and sh|t whenever they have anything in their bladder or bowels, trust me, I have seen it lots and hate it every time. (Code Brown! or Code Yellow!)
Air weighs, although very little, a bit too. If you have ever done any SCUBA diving you would know this because your tanks weigh much more at the start of a dive than at the end of a dive. As instructors we would say that "fear floats" because scared divers take deep breaths and become more boyant (ok, somebody hit me I took such a huge tangent here).
<edit> see my first two paragraphs only please </edit>
They took into account "body waste" in the study.
But I guess there was no way to weigh air. Still no way could a body hold enough air to add up the a few ounces.
But I guess there was no way to weigh air. Still no way could a body hold enough air to add up the a few ounces.
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<< kydlynx, why do you have to post this here? Are you so unsure of what you believe that you have to spout this off? These posts are neither constructive nor helpful, as they'll likely start "Yet Another Flamewar?". >>
all great minds question. i am very openminded. you however seem that you cannot handle discrepancies. maybe you are insecure about what you belive in. these posts are completlely constructive. this is a forum of opinions. you have no clue what you are talking about. >>
Why post another religious thread when every single solitary person will have a different view as unique as their own personality? If you don't know that much by now, I wonder about your ability to comment on the subject. And I'm very very much sure of both what I believe in and that I have a clue what I am talking about - we don't need another potential flamewar about a subject that is fundamentally personal in nature? I don't need to advertise it to the whole world or wear it as a badge of honor of my surety or insecurity about my uncertainty, nor I will ever reveal my religious beliefs on any public forum here or elsewhere. Subjects which could potentially start a flamewar do not have a tendency to be constructive. Your absolution of opinion is telling of your own character (proof: "You just die." leave no room for interpretation). Any comment which would tend to introduce negative feelings on a personal level is a waste of time and bandwidth.
<< You just die >>
Hard to wrap your brain around that isn't it?
<< The only real purpose of life is to reproduce and survive. >>
True at a very low level but given our intelligence we can create meaning for our lives and this is the key to true happiness.
It's fine to discuss death and think about it a bit and the Great Maker knows I sure did when I was younger. But let me ask you this: what's the point in obsessing over it?
The only reason i made this post was so that i can see what people think. you think i really care about your remarks, I just want to see what kind of emotional tendencies would come out. People that defend their beliefs, people that question existance, people that say im not telling its my business, people that get angry when religon is brought about. I just find it very interesting how everyone is the same. Society is predicatable, like as I saw here today.
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The only reason i made this post was so that i can see what people think. you think i really care about your remarks
You must be joking with this statement... If you didn't care about our remarks, then save us the time and don't post :|
You must be joking with this statement... If you didn't care about our remarks, then save us the time and don't post :|
Where do you go when you die? Where do you go when you die? Where do you go when you die? How intense the green light is that reflects off the tree by the fence. And look, a few of last years olives still cling to the tree. The bird feeder spins on it's roap as a whirlwind of feathered dirvishes twirl it about. Oh hehe, a sparrow has lept a foot in the air from the onrush of one of his greedy mates. Surely I'm in heaven. No no, it's just a dream. Time to pull some weeds.
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