Do you believe hanging to be an acceptable form of the death penalty?

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zebano

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Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.
 

DougK62

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Seems fitting to me.

Personally, I think he should have to suffer through some public humiliation before dying. Let some people piss on him and throw raw food.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Nope. Give them painless deaths. It's humane. If you're going to kill them, you might as well kill him with some decency. If the person is like Sadaam and should be punished millions of times over, let's not sink down to his level and perform inhumane acts against him.

Kill him. But please, don't tell me a bullet to the head will cost millions of taxpayer dollars like in the US. I find it great that we make death such an easy thing in the US but when it costs so much to execute a prisoner, it's just ridiculous.
The only way a hanging is a painful way to die is if it is botched. Otherwise, done properly, the neck is snapped and death is instantaneous.
It is the traditional history of hanging, that it is a disgraceful way to die, that causes some people to think of it as lacking decency or inhumane, and not because it is actually painful. Although, this history may be based on the fact that hangings were frequently botched in the past (often intentionally, as in the Nuremberg trials, where a short drop was used on purpose to cause lingering deaths).

Cost should never be an impediment to justice. It costs so much to execute a prisoner in the US because we have made death NOT an easy thing. If it were easy, as you claim, it wouldn't cost so much.
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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I vote for "hanged, drawn, and quartered" complete with the castration and burning of his innards in front of his eyes just before he kicks off. Even that's letting him off easy.
 

James3shin

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It would be kind of cool if all the people under Saddam that suffered got to punch him in the face all day.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Death is not punishment unless you believe in an afterlife of suffering.
Your logic is lacking. If death is not punishment, are you saying that you would have no qualms with dying today? Way to troll though...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.
Which is more cruel? Death? Or life in a solitary 6x9 cell?

Quite frankly, we're not interested in assauging your fears or guilty conscience.
 

daniel1113

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Oddly enough, my friend and I had this exact conversation last night, and we both thought that hanging, when done correctly, may not be that bad (all else considered). If you are dropped from an appropriate hight, your neck snaps and you pretty much die instantly.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.
Which is more cruel? Death? Or life in a solitary 6x9 cell?

Quite frankly, we're not interested in assauging your fears or guilty conscience.

I don't think there is anything more dehumanizing, or cruel than having your life taken from you.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Oddly enough, my friend and I had this exact conversation last night, and we both thought that hanging, when done correctly, may not be that bad (all else considered). If you are dropped from an appropriate hight, your neck snaps and you pretty much die instantly.

Uncertainty, and possibilities should have not place in putting someone to death.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Oddly enough, my friend and I had this exact conversation last night, and we both thought that hanging, when done correctly, may not be that bad (all else considered). If you are dropped from an appropriate hight, your neck snaps and you pretty much die instantly.

Uncertainty, and possibilities should have not place in putting someone to death.

I never said otherwise.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.
Which is more cruel? Death? Or life in a solitary 6x9 cell?

Quite frankly, we're not interested in assauging your fears or guilty conscience.

I don't think there is anything more dehumanizing, or cruel than having your life taken from you.
No lifetime is more cruel than a lifetime of suffering?
I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life alone in a small cell.
 
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.

Heh... California executed a guy this year for arranging the murder of two witnesses who were going to testify against him while he was in prison serving a life sentence for another murder.

They don't stop being dangerous until they are dead.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Death is not punishment unless you believe in an afterlife of suffering.
Your logic is lacking. If death is not punishment, are you saying that you would have no qualms with dying today? Way to troll though...

Of course I don't want to die.. But it doesn't take a genius to realize that once you are dead, the punishment is over. Non existence is not suffering, or else people would not commit suicide.
 

dullard

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Nothing really cruel about it. And nothing unusual about it. So :thumbsup: for me.

That "outdated" argument is silly. The constitution says they must not be unusual. But then when people do what was usual for many years, you call it "outdated". Basically, you want to end the usual methods, therefore there are no usual methods and you win your crusade against the death penalty.

Sorry, but logic doesn't work that way.

Of course, Iraq isn't under the US constitution. But my point is the same.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: Ryan
IMHO, the death penalty is never acceptable. The death of Saddam can never vindicate any crime he has ever committed, by any means.

Vindication? Who said anything about that?

Plain and simple, it will prevent him from ever repeating any of his heinous crimes.

A maximum security prison is just as effective.

Heh... California executed a guy this year for arranging the murder of two witnesses who were going to testify against him while he was in prison serving a life sentence for another murder.

They don't stop being dangerous until they are dead.

Seriously. Ever hear of prison gangs? They've got contacts.

Ex kinda: In Israel, there are many jihadist leaders in prisons. However, their lawyers are allowed to talk to them and pass messages to their organizations.
 

Kelemvor

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The whole point of being humane when killing someone is just stupid. It's an oxymoron. You're killing them. When you're done, they're dead. Who cares if it hurts them to die or not. Now I'm not saying death by torture, but hanging, a gun to the head, firing squad, guillotine, etc... They should all be used when someone is to die.

We waste so much money in the US just to kill someone it's unbelievable.

Just shoot them and get it over with.
 

5to1baby1in5

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Originally posted by: NatePo717
I like public stoning. That way everyone can get in on the fun :evil:

[Monty Python] Let's go to the stoning. [/Monty python]