Do you believe 2nd hand smoke is toxic and will harm you and your family?

[her209]

See Poll.

 

[BigJ]

You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

 

[Throckmorton]

Outside, no. inside, yes.

 

[Sinsear]

Smoke em if you got em.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Yes.

That's why I don't smoke in the house but do it in the garage instead. If I'm lucky maybe it will kill that damn blue-tailed skink in the garage that I can't seem to catch?

 

[Blayze]

Yes.

I do not smoke, but I lived with a indoor smoker for over 20 years. Not sure how it has affected my health, but I do believe that 2nd hand smoke can harm people.

I have several relatives who smoke around their small children. I know this can't be good either, but you can't tell them anything about it.

 

[Canai]

Yes. Outside and in. If you can smell it, you're breathing it in. I smoked for two years, then realized how bad it was. Second hand some is as bad, if not worse, than the inhaled smoke.

People who smoke around children indoors should be set on fire (I'm serious too. Smoking around kids can fuck them up forever).

and whoever voted no, I hope you just clicked the wrong one.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Uh...yeah?

 

[Kirby]

I don't think it's nearly as bad as it's made out to be, but I don't the house or car smelling like smoke.

 

[dudeman007]

I hardly think it's a question of if you believe it or not. It's a fact.....

 

[George P Burdell]

It's not a question of opinion, it's fact.

Courtesy of the American Cancer Society:

Smoking is by far the leading risk factor for lung cancer. Tobacco smoke causes more than 8 out of 10 cases of lung cancer. The longer a person has been smoking and the more packs per day smoked, the greater the risk. If a person stops smoking before lung cancer develops, the lung tissue slowly returns to normal. Stopping smoking at any age lowers the risk of lung cancer.

Cigar and pipe smoking are almost as likely to cause lung cancer as is cigarette smoking. There is no evidence that smoking low tar cigarettes reduces the risk of lung cancer.

People who don?t smoke but who breathe the smoke of others also have a higher risk of lung cancer. Non-smoking spouses of smokers, for example, have a 30% greater risk of developing lung cancer than do spouses of nonsmokers. Workers exposed to tobacco smoke in the workplace are also more likely to get lung cancer. The cancer-causing effects of tobacco smoke appears to affect certain people more than others.

edit: haha, dudeman007 beat me to it.

 

[Blayze]

Originally posted by: Canai
People who smoke around children indoors should be set on fire (I'm serious too. Smoking around kids can fuck them up forever).

Well I'm not going to say they need to be set on fire, but it is sad that they do this... Their children have sinus infections and bronchitis a lot. I really don't think they know how bad smoking is for you, and if they did I don't think they would care.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: BigJ
You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

Does it matter?
Just consider "FAMILY" means a Married couple w/1 kid and an elderly person! Maybe you should post a subject of your own more often and clarify your stance on it, but instead you insert your BS to all the other threads?
Beautuful!

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell
It's not a question of opinion, it's fact.

Courtesy of the American Cancer Society:

Smoking is by far the leading risk factor for lung cancer. Tobacco smoke causes more than 8 out of 10 cases of lung cancer. The longer a person has been smoking and the more packs per day smoked, the greater the risk. If a person stops smoking before lung cancer develops, the lung tissue slowly returns to normal. Stopping smoking at any age lowers the risk of lung cancer.

Cigar and pipe smoking are almost as likely to cause lung cancer as is cigarette smoking. There is no evidence that smoking low tar cigarettes reduces the risk of lung cancer.

People who don?t smoke but who breathe the smoke of others also have a higher risk of lung cancer. Non-smoking spouses of smokers, for example, have a 30% greater risk of developing lung cancer than do spouses of nonsmokers. Workers exposed to tobacco smoke in the workplace are also more likely to get lung cancer. The cancer-causing effects of tobacco smoke appears to affect certain people more than others.

edit: haha, dudeman007 beat me to it.

The American Cancer Society isn't exactly impartial on the issue. They were also one of the organizations that used the infamous flawed EPA ETS report.

And before people come out and insult me, I do believe that there are certain situations where ETS is quite harmful.

EDIT: Also, that's all I'm going to say on the matter. If you want a long-winded debate with a bunch of name-calling (not you, but someone's going to do it), search the archives.

 

[MegaVovaN]

Idiot question. Secondhand smoke is just as or even worse than firsthand.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: CorCentral

Originally posted by: BigJ
You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

Does it matter?
Just consider "FAMILY" means a Married couple w/1 kid and an elderly person! Maybe you should post a subject of your own more often and clarify your stance on it, but instead you insert your BS to all the other threads?
Beautuful!

WHOA WHOA WHOA RELAX!

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: CorCentral

Originally posted by: BigJ
You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

Does it matter?
Just consider "FAMILY" means a Married couple w/1 kid and an elderly person! Maybe you should post a subject of your own more often and clarify your stance on it, but instead you insert your BS to all the other threads?
Beautuful!

Actually, yes it does.

For small children and infants, and the elderly, ETS is very harmful.
In enclosed spaces and high levels of exposure (such as workers in bars that allow smoking) it's been shown to be quite harmful.

ETS in a well ventilated area with smaller concentrations? Not so much.

 

[Eli]

Anybody who believes smoke of any kind isn't bad for you is an idot.

'Nuff said.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Eli


Anybody who believes smoke of any kind isn't bad for you is an idot.

'Nuff said.

Says the guy with the hippy icon who builds 2 stroke engines

 

[DrPizza]

I'll preface this response with I find smoking absolutely disgusting.

However, in the quote above, there's a 30% increased risk of cancer due to second hand smoke. Uhhh, 30% more than what? What are the odds of developing lung cancer if you're not a smoker, don't inhale 2nd hand smoke, and don't work closely with asbestos? 1 in 1000? What's a 30% increased risk there? 1.3 in 1000? Why don't we ever see the actual rate of risk? (I suspect) is it because the actual risk is still really low, but "30% increase" sounds like it's a huge deal, thus enabling even more anti-smoking "propaganda."

Again, I absolutely hate cigarette smoke. I can't stand to be around smokers. They stink. Their cigarette smoke stinks. But, I'm not persuaded by "30% increased risk" argument.

Or, to put it another way, your risk of getting hit by a meteorite are probably 1 in several billion. I'm magically going to double your risk. That's a 100% increase! Now, your odds of getting hit by a meteorite are 2 in several billion. I'll bet you're shaking in your boots, huh? I'll bet you wish I wasn't magic. "30% increase" is statistically meaningful, i.e. Yes, research proves 2nd hand smoke increases the risk of lung cancer, but it carries no other meaning unless you know what the original risk was.

Note: Cancer isn't the only bad thing from 2nd hand smoke, there are also: emphysema, stinkiness, sore throats, stinkiness, asthma, and did I mention it smells bad?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Eli


Anybody who believes smoke of any kind isn't bad for you is an idot.

'Nuff said.

Says the guy with the hippy icon who builds 2 stroke engines

I doubt he claims that 2-stroke exhaust is good for you.

OP: You can't put a "yes/no" answer on a compound question.

Do I believe that secondhand smoke is toxic? Well, yes.
How toxic? Probably about on par with pre-catalytic converter auto exhaust.
Will it harm me? No, because I don't inhale it at home (no smokers), I don't inhale it at work (no smoking indoors in most buildings), and on the street it is very very easy to give a bit of distance to the few smokers I see. What little I can't avoid isn't very much...probably no worse than living in a city with cars or cooking on a campfire would provide anyway.
My family? Well, same situation, really. Now if my wife worked at a place that was always full of cigarette smoke I might complain. But almost all employers recognize their workers' rights to a smoke-free environment. Kids would be more sensitive, but again schools are non-smoking, so...

The laws are fine right now, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe even a little too strict.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Eli


Anybody who believes smoke of any kind isn't bad for you is an idot.

'Nuff said.

Says the guy with the hippy icon who builds 2 stroke engines

And?

And it's antique 4-strokes, kthx.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: jagec
OP: You can't put a "yes/no" answer on a compound question.

I have to admit it was the question posed by one of those anti-smoking ads.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: CorCentral

Originally posted by: BigJ
You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

Does it matter?
Just consider "FAMILY" means a Married couple w/1 kid and an elderly person! Maybe you should post a subject of your own more often and clarify your stance on it, but instead you insert your BS to all the other threads?
Beautuful!

WHOA WHOA WHOA RELAX!

I'm not the one smoking

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: CorCentral

Originally posted by: BigJ
You need to give more qualifiers. Does family include:
-Small children/infants
-Elderly

Also, are we talking confined (as in windows are always closed, poor ventilation) or open?
How much smoke?

Does it matter?
Just consider "FAMILY" means a Married couple w/1 kid and an elderly person! Maybe you should post a subject of your own more often and clarify your stance on it, but instead you insert your BS to all the other threads?
Beautuful!

Actually, yes it does.

For small children and infants, and the elderly, ETS is very harmful.
In enclosed spaces and high levels of exposure (such as workers in bars that allow smoking) it's been shown to be quite harmful.

ETS in a well ventilated area with smaller concentrations? Not so much.

But in your first thread (2nd from the top) you were asking if the "Family" included......
small children/infants or elderly???
I state.......... Does it matter what age you are? You're still going to be affected Pilgrim!