Do you affirm your significant other?

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I personally like to take every opportunity I have to tell my boyfriend what I think of him; I never make it up or force it but if I'm thinking something good about him, why not share so he knows how much I appreciate him? However, I've seen some of the guys here say that they don't like to compliment their girlfriends too much because they might then start to expect it. What's wrong with them expecting it? If your goal is to be honest and build them up by being honest with them about how you feel about them, why regulate the positive things you tell them? I would think that it would be better for your S.O. to hear things like that often enough to expect them than for you to think them and never say them for that reason. The positive affirmation then wouldn't be expected but wouldn't really occur either, which could take away something that would build up the relationship. Responses?
 

minendo

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every chance i get i let my girlfriend know what i think of her and how i feel.
 

DuffmanOhYeah

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If I had one I would, but..............................:frown:
It's been 4 months since I have been in a relationship, and it's starting to wear on me. Decelerating from 6 1/2 years to 0 =:confused:
 

VirusDub

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I used to compliment my girlfriend every day. I never felt obligated, I just always wanted her to know how special I thought she was. And you're right, girls have the right to expect compliments. If a guy actually likes a girl, why is it so hard for him to say something nice about her? It's not like it's hard.
 

hzl eyed grl

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I just stopped seeing my bf a while back. I'm the type like you, HotChic, and I like to say those things. But, he wasn't. There are a LOT of things that I'm willing to compromise on, but I like to feel appreciated and loved too. I'm a very affectionate person, and I like to touch and be touched. Being with someone that isn't....is really hard for me. :(
 

Juniper

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We always tell each other what we feel. I mean, when you are in a relationship, especially a very long one, for me its very hard to keep my opinions to myself. As for feelings, its the same thing. We don't try to hide. I used to, though, during the first 6 months that we dated :D
 

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<< I just stopped seeing my bf a while back. I'm the type like you, HotChic, and I like to say those things. But, he wasn't. There are a LOT of things that I'm willing to compromise on, but I like to feel appreciated and loved too. I'm a very affectionate person, and I like to touch and be touched. Being with someone that isn't....is really hard for me. :( >>



Sounds like we're in the same boat.

alright, bedtime for me. I don't want to go to class tomorrow. :p
 

hzl eyed grl

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<< Sounds like we're in the same boat. >>


I'm sorry. I know that's hard. Are you married or dating? Have you tried to talk about it? I know I tried several times. Every time I did...he'd try--kind of--for about a day, and then revert to being a jerk again. :(
 

grr8scott

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so question to you ladies out there. y duz my now wife of 7 months tell me i am complimenting her way too much, and telling her how i feel to much??


SO SO SO CONFUSED!!!!!
 

hzl eyed grl

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<< hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so question to you ladies out there. y duz my now wife of 7 months tell me i am complimenting her way too much, and telling her how i feel to much??


SO SO SO CONFUSED!!!!!
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I don't know. I know I'd love it. Everyone is different, though. Some people like cuddling, some don't. Some women like affermation, and some probably don't. (I'm guessing by what you said.) Maybe talk to her and see what she expects/likes. Good luck.
 

linuxboy

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I personally like to take every opportunity I have to tell my boyfriend what I think of him; I never make it up or force it but if I'm thinking something good about him, why not share so he knows how much I appreciate him? However, I've seen some of the guys here say that they don't like to compliment their girlfriends too much because they might then start to expect it. What's wrong with them expecting it?

HC, I think here you must go back to fundamental findings from operant conditioning theory and apply them to cognitive and social dynamics to understand why or why not sharing feelings and ideas benefits/harms a relationship.

The idea in operant conditioning is that a stream of positive feedback will encourage further behavior and is the most sustainable over time. In a relationship, this is not exactly optimal for a few reasons. First, both parties should not be dependent on each other for any psychological needs. In other words (and also from a Christian perspective), they should build on foundation of love (with Jesus as head), and serve each other, using the emotion of love to help them approach true love. A reinforcement schedule can lead to dependency if the person has no intrinsic sense of meaning. Second, in a typical relationship, especially among members of this forum, maturity issues and lack of a cohesive worldview prevent one or both parties from understanding how a relationship operates and the psychosocial issues involved. Hence, all the "I don't get wimmin" threads. Using a schedule of positive reinforcement with attachement/security issues coupled with ineffective coping strategies and a lacking worldview/social support structure can lead to disaster.

So I suppose that's what's wrong with expectation. From an ethical standpoint, it creates a duty in the relationship. From a psychoanalytic perspecitve, the lack of intrinsic valuation and reliance on external means to affect change with one's own cognitive and regulatory faculties creates insecurity eventually leading to unhealthy means used to selfishly acquire a continuation of worth. This is similar to the sex idea I talked about in an earlier thread. The people need to affirm meaning and find it in another person, and not in themselves, or as it should be in a relationship, both in self, other, and relationship. The only difference between this and rechless hedonism is the degree involved. This has more checks built in but fundamentally, it's still the same. That's why I never understand people who self-righteously claim that "all the sinners will die" and that they have the only path to salvation.



If your goal is to be honest and build them up by being honest with them about how you feel about them, why regulate the positive things you tell them? I would think that it would be better for your S.O. to hear things like that often enough to expect them than for you to think them and never say them for that reason. The positive affirmation then wouldn't be expected but wouldn't really occur either, which could take away something that would build up the relationship. Responses?

I think the major problem in this reasoning is that it assumes two healthy contributing members in a relationship. If this is the case, then anything goes because both parties are so committed to a final outcome and have, and recognize a DUTY created by virtue of their relationship. Many people just seek the other party as a "fvck buddy" as opposed to a serious commitment requiring true labor of love. Where am I here... Ah yes. In your case, the communication is a feedback stream but it has little effects on the overall structure and regulative functions within the relationship dynamics. Since it is so, it really makes little difference. In many other relationships, you must realize that most people are still severely affected by external reality.

In short, appreciate how good you have it. In your case, the communication is a good thing. In many other cases, I tend to side with Nietzsche and say "they don't deserve to be involved" although my view is not quite so jaded and pessimistic.

Cheers ! :)
 

linuxboy

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so question to you ladies out there. y duz my now wife of 7 months tell me i am complimenting her way too much, and telling her how i feel to much??

Although I am not female, I think I will answer this question.

Past experiences shape future expectations. Expectations in a committed relationship essentially will cause you all your grief since people tend to like living in an illusion. As for your wife, I would suspect family culture socialization has placed norms and roles that she should play out. I would venture to say that the relationship with her father or any other important male figure has not beeon overly emotional or condusive to open discussion about psychological dynamics occuring between people. She may be of the view that the less people say the better and that actions do tend to state real intentions better than words. As Hzl said, every person is different and if you want an answer, how about asking your wife instead of posting questions to random (albeit qualified) people on an online BBS? From my experiences, the generalizations mentioned hold up in a majority of the cases.

If she is really unemotional, dig into her experiences through communication and find out why. People can change if you are dedicated to making the relationship work.


Cheers ! :)
 

grr8scott

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have tried.. :) its just 2. well, almost 3 am in the morning now, and am rambling, thats all, so am i coming here for solid advice on what to do?? not really, but i am open to suggestions and also to learning by other peoples experiences. just because i post here, doesnt mean this is my first and or last attempt at finding out why my wife is like this.


if that made any sense..
 

linuxboy

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grr8scott, absolutely. I'm sorry if I came off as a little hostile. All I wanted to emphasize was my lack of knowledge in your particular case and the point that my conclusions are based on an average cross section of data. Every situation is unique.

Cheers ! :)
 

grr8scott

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its all good, AM TRYING TO GO TO BED HERE.. :) just prob forgot to mention we do communcaite quite a bit in my first here. can someone make me go to bed now??

Later
 
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Lola

it seems that i think of my boyfriend all of the time...not in a crazy way, but in a caring way. I try to show him how much i love him as much as I possibly can. Even if it is just by putting little notes or cards in his backpack when he is going to school. I want to show him how much he is appericated and loved.
 

BettyBoop

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While I think people who care for each other should express their feelings, it is possible to be "over-affirmed" by someone who goes on and on and on about how wonderful you are, how much he loves you, and such, to the point of driving you nuts. I would rather have the "strong, silent type" than one of these touchy-feely new age blatherers who is so "in touch with his feminine side" that maybe he and his feminine side should run off on a honeymoon together.

(If the above does not make sense, don't blame me, blame Heineken's.) ;)
 

grr8scott

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can undersatnd that bettyboop. i guess i am tryin to find that perfect balance tween too much, and too lil...
 

TallBill

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ahh... i tell the truth about my girlfriend a lot... fortunatly for both of us its all good stuff :D
 

Sir Fredrick

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<<

<< Sounds like we're in the same boat. >>


I'm sorry. I know that's hard. Are you married or dating? Have you tried to talk about it? I know I tried several times. Every time I did...he'd try--kind of--for about a day, and then revert to being a jerk again. :(
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Definitely not married. :) Though I had been thinking she was "the one". We've talked about it and she claims that she's trying, but I just don't see it. She doesn't do anything real jerky, she just doesn't seem to appreciate everything I do for her, and she doesn't recipriocate. I don't think she wants the relationship to be as serious as it's become...
sorry for the delayed response, I'm on the AT&T@Home cable...fortunately we still have internet access at work. :)
 

jjones

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my wife frequently tells me exactly what she thinks of me. this is the reason i've been spending more and more time with my friends. ;)

actually, we have a pretty good relationship and often express our feelings towards each other.
 

Kelvrick

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Bleh, need a girlfriend.

God! Flu season! With the ways I'm looking now with my watery nose, jacked up throat and voice, bloodshot eyes, and messed up hair, I'll be damned if a girl ever looks my way again.