Originally posted by: djNickb
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: djNickb
The government can choose to levy taxes in whatever amount they see fit. All I am saying is that by the gov't taking less YOU KEEP MORE as opposed to the gov't not changing anything and you paying the same amount in taxes. You can call this whatever you want, I chose to call it a gift. Again restating what I said before what you do with the extra you keep IS UP TO YOU. I won't bother trying to explain the other concept as it has obviously fallen on deaf ears.
It's not that it has fallen on deaf ears, it is that your view on this situation is incorrect.
Can you please explain how my view is incorrect - I'm not tryin to incite more arguing, I just want to see the facts that you can present that disprove my statement.
Simple. When I go to work I trade my time for money. Therefore, I work to earn money. Notice that the government is not anywhere in this picture, unless I am employed by the government, then in which I trade my time to the government for money. Keep in mind that the government did nothing to help me earn this money or was part of the contract that I had with my employer to trade my time for money.
When I get my money, note MY money, the government takes a percentage of this.
Let's recap because I know this is confusing:
I trade time for money.
Government takes a percentage of my money.
Now if the government enacts a tax cut, that effectively reduces the percentage of money they take. Read that carefully! Rather than take 27% of my income, they are now taking 25%, because taxes have been reduced by 2%.
That means that the government is taking a smaller percentage.
Now if I have overpaid my taxes, which is entirely possible given our tax system, the government owes me money. When they owe me money, it is not that they are giving me a gift. The difference between a gift and debt is that a gift is something unexpected and debt is something that can be specifically calulated to determine to the exact penny of what I have overpaid and am due by the goverment.
If tax refunds or cuts were a gift, as you say, then the goverment would only give money back to the citizens it likes. Perhaps the President at the time would give "gifts" back to the people who voted for him or her.
But in the case of a tax cut, everyone who has overpaid gets an amount back that is unique to exactly the amount they overpaid. For example, if I grossly overpaid, I may get a larger amount back than you.
Now before you reply saying a tax cut is still a gift in your mind, be sure to explain how this gift applies to people who have underpaid their taxes throughout the year and owe money.
I hope this makes sense for you.