Do smokers really bother you?

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duragezic

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: manowar821
Yes, and not just their smoking, but their mannerisms. All their small ticks, like how they feel entitled to 7+ smoke breaks during the work day because they "need" to smoke.

I smoke... and deduct the time to takes me to do from my alloted lunch/break time. Funny though, the people who whip out theor personal planners and spend 2 hrs a day on the phone
scheduling doctor's apoointments,hair and dental appointments, conferencing with their kid's teacher and/or taking multiple calls from home don't ever seem to say"hey I'll work thru lunch today,I used my lunch time making and receiving personal phone calls while I stuck the smoker with my workload"
Yeah that is ridiculous. I don't charge the time I take smoking cigarettes. But I still want to eat lunch so I simply stay an extra 30 minutes or so per day. Yet the non-smokers who love to bitch about smokers supposedly charging time while sitting outside have no problem taking fucking walks and breaks all the time.
 

ICRS

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Here in Cali it is a violation of state law to smoke 20 feet from a public building door or window. I have considered calling the police on people who violate this law.

Nothing makes me more angry is when it rains, and a building roof protrudes out, you see people standing underneath it to smoke. Problem is they within 20 feet from a window or door of a public building. They should be fined for violating the law. One day I will call the police on these people.
 

LS21

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i dont smoke, and i dont mind

friends are surprised when they ask me "do you mind if i smoke" and i say no. they never believe me on the first try
 
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Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: clamum
Nope.
I'd rather smoke than listen to AvA though... talk about losing respect. :laugh:
This.
Smokers unite!
Strange thing is, I didn't mind smokers when I was a non-smoker. I thought it smelled horrible and wondered what made it enjoyable but I never grimaced, flinched or clenched my bowels like OP appears to. I agree a lot of smokers light up in places where they really shouldn't but gems like 'Anyone that smokes automatically loses a lot of respect from me' really don't register on my super-calibrated 'things I give a damn about' meter.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: ICRS
Here in Cali it is a violation of state law to smoke 20 feet from a public building door or window. I have considered calling the police on people who violate this law.

Nothing makes me more angry is when it rains, and a building roof protrudes out, you see people standing underneath it to smoke. Problem is they within 20 feet from a window or door of a public building. They should be fined for violating the law. One day I will call the police on these people.

That would be so cool, I admire your courage. Do you have a blog where I could read more of your pet peeves.
 

Stiganator

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Here's hoping my campus goes smoke free :)

Smokers are disrespectful at best. Signs clearly state, no smoking within 25 feet of entrances. Yet right in front of the door they smoke. They throw their butts on the ground right next to the sand ash tray thingy. Then there breath reeks like poop even when you're like 10 ft away. To add insult to injury, it is harming my health.
 

johnjohn320

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I really don't understand how people talk about "being able to smell it from XXX yards away." This thread alone has mentioned being on the third story of a building and noticing people smoking on the ground below. Or I'll be at a restaurant with a friend, and someone across this enormous room from us will light up, and the person I'm with starts wrinkling their nose and acting all disgusted.

Really? I mean, really? I'm not a smoker and never have been, but I think some people just like to bitch. I mean, how sensitive are your noses? Are you really that much of a wimp?
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
I really don't understand how people talk about "being able to smell it from XXX yards away." This thread alone has mentioned being on the third story of a building and noticing people smoking on the ground below. Or I'll be at a restaurant with a friend, and someone across this enormous room from us will light up, and the person I'm with starts wrinkling their nose and acting all disgusted.

Really? I mean, really? I'm not a smoker and never have been, but I think some people just like to bitch. I mean, how sensitive are your noses? Are you really that much of a wimp?

Fo sheezy. I used to smoke, and when I did find myself smoking a cigarette with a few friends around (they'd follow me out knowing full well I was out to smoke) I was at least courteous enough to blow the smoke away. I still carry gum around as a residual habit, since I got so used to popping a piece in after a smoke break. The smell lingers on a person for at best 15 minutes, past that you can't smell it on them unless you're up in their face.

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
If I'm driving and the person in front of me is smoking with their windows down, I can smell it even with my windows up, unless I put the HVAC on recirculate. Fucking disgusting habit.

You drive around without your AC on recirculate? Even when I used to smoke and my sense of smell was only good for human feces less than one foot away, driving around without the AC on recirc brings in so many other much much nastier smells than cigarette smoke that I never do it. You never get a whiff of an 18 wheeler's exhaust, roadkill, or cow manure? Bullshit, die in a smoldering pile of cigarette butts, asshole.
 

seemingly random

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Ex-smoker. I like the smell of smoke occasionally. I always have and still like most cigar and pipe smoke. Don't like smokers in a room with no ventilation - used to get them to stop or leave even when I smoked.

I hope the extremists don't have any personal habits that others might attempt to oppress - perfume, cologne, bad breath, bo, gas, funky clothes detergent or shampoo, food preferences, loud music, etc.
 
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Smokers don't bother me. In fact, its the extremist non-smokers who irritate me. I've seen them get in smoker's faces and call them murderers and say all kinds of crazy shit.

They just passed a smoking ban here which prohibits it, I think, 30 feet from any business (targets businesses as public places are already under a ban, as is campus since its state run). The only reason it did pass is because of the college students wanting it banned at the bars.

The average person I don't think really cares. The whole 1 second that you're exposed to it for many people isn't going to have an adverse impact on your health (your lungs are actually pretty amazing things). I don't like smokers that litter and are assholes (don't ask if its ok, etc) either, but labeling all of them is just stupid.

My mom smoked heavily when I grew up, and smoke does bother me (especially in spring when I get bad allergies now), but I understand I have a choice of being at the place where there's smoke, and I can always ask someone politely if they'd not light up (which seemingly amazingly is very effective in my experience). The other 95% of the time I'm in transition between two places so its not going to bother me for such an incredibly limited amount of time.
 

wwswimming

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better not move to Europe or Japan. seems like people smoke a lot more
there.

i worked for a Korean start-up at one point. i'd go into a meeting with
the Engineering VP, bringing some drawings or a prototype or something.
all the Korean guys were smoking un-filtered.

once i watched an Aikido 7th dan+ doing a demonstration at a dojo
in Silicon Valley. i walked past the office during a break, he was in
there having a cig.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Smokers don't bother me. In fact, its the extremist non-smokers who irritate me. I've seen them get in smoker's faces and call them murderers and say all kinds of crazy shit.

They just passed a smoking ban here which prohibits it, I think, 30 feet from any business (targets businesses as public places are already under a ban, as is campus since its state run). The only reason it did pass is because of the college students wanting it banned at the bars.

The average person I don't think really cares. The whole 1 second that you're exposed to it for many people isn't going to have an adverse impact on your health (your lungs are actually pretty amazing things). I don't like smokers that litter and are assholes (don't ask if its ok, etc) either, but labeling all of them is just stupid.

My mom smoked heavily when I grew up, and smoke does bother me (especially in spring when I get bad allergies now), but I understand I have a choice of being at the place where there's smoke, and I can always ask someone politely if they'd not light up (which seemingly amazingly is very effective in my experience). The other 95% of the time I'm in transition between two places so its not going to bother me for such an incredibly limited amount of time.

It really is. I lit up at a football game and the dude next to me, who also happened to be one of the only people there that wasn't shit faced drunk, asked me politely if I could put it out or move a seat or two over. I obliged.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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As others have said, most smokers aren't complete jackasses. If you ask someone not to light up, they'll probably oblige and wait until you're further away. Or you could just leave yourself, since you're the one being inconvenienced by something that is totally legal and a personal choice.
 

Fritzo

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My whole argument against smoking is- you should be able to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

The problem with smoking is the smoke doesn't stay with you- it travels and is inhaled by everyone around you. Therefore, it's a public action, not a private action.

It's along the same lines as saying "I have every right to hold this piece of plutonium and irradiate myself!" You could do that, but the people around you don't have a choice.
 

CKent

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I used to smoke 2 packs a day, and voted yes. When you're a heavy indoor smoker, tar covers everything. Walls, ceilings, every object in your home. Now that I don't smoke, I realize just how nasty it is. Then there's the price, the health issues, and the fact it doesn't really do anything for you.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
My whole argument against smoking is- you should be able to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

The problem with smoking is the smoke doesn't stay with you- it travels and is inhaled by everyone around you. Therefore, it's a public action, not a private action.

It's along the same lines as saying "I have every right to hold this piece of plutonium and irradiate myself!" You could do that, but the people around you don't have a choice.

It's amazing what a whole lot of alarmism and propaganda can do.

Unless you live or work for decades with heavy smokers in poorly ventilated areas your chances of harm is nil. And since YOU make the choice to be around smokers, your exposure is your problem. (Yes, unless you're in jail you always have the option to walk away from smokers)

BTW, your state has an indoor smoking ban (a violation of property rights, but that's another thread). So for you to complain, you MUST be complaining of occational whiffs of outdoor smoke.

The occasional whiff outdoors is FAR less toxic than all the auto and truck fumes you breath on a daily basis.

So please folks, lets stop the nonsense that catching a whiff of tobacco smoke is so dangerous.
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
I don't like that smokers treat the world like their personal ash tray and will leave butts any where.

There's somebody at my apartment complex that does it. There was this huge pile of butts right in the middle of our building's courtyard. They didn't even have the decency to carry it 15 feet to their apartment to dispose of it properly. A few times I've had to shut up my windows because their smoke blows into my apartment. When their habit starts invading my space I don't like it.

I have no problem with people smoking but when they start to do it in a way that makes it unpleasant to others I have issues. Walking out of a door on campus (when I was still in school) and having to walk through a gauntlet of smokers who didn't even walk more than 5 feet from the door isn't being polite. Somebody sitting down right next to you as you wait for the bus, then lighting up and then acting like its your problem that you don't want their smoke in your face is just being rude.

Smoking everywhere, anytime around any one is not a right. If you're going to do it, do it so it only affects yourself.