do slotkets perform the same as slot 1?

[replacement10]

i am thinking about upgrading my p3 600 slot 1 with a p3 800 fcpga and slotket. do you lose any performance by using a slotket? thanks!

 

[blackhawk]

Practically, no. Just an added expense.

 

[AndyHui]

There is no performance loss with using a Slotket.

However, a small upgrade like the one you have suggested is not worth it. Consider a 1GHz Pentium III processor, or hold off and change the entire motherboard and processor.

What motherboard are you using?

 

[jiffylube1024]

There is no speed loss from using a Slotket.

I belive a company (forget the name) has a new Slotket that converts Tualatin Celerons/P3's to Slot 1. If this is true you could get a dirt cheap 1.0 GHz Celeron A (with 256 K cache, essentially a P3). You could even overclock it to 1.33 GHz if your mobo supports 133 MHz FSB.

 

[girish]

there is no performance loss, but you might experience problems with overclocking if you use a cheap slocket.

Powerleap Powerleap makes a special slotket iP3/T that supports the Tualatin core Celerons (1A~1.3 GHz) and Pentium-IIIs (1.13A~1.53 GHz), they sell a 1.2 GHz + adapter + cooler combo for about $169!

girish

 

[oldfart]

<< they sell a 1.2 GHz + adapter + cooler combo for about $169! >>



Celeron 1.2 retail box with HS/Fan ~ $80
Abit ST6: Nice 815E board with great overclocking features. ~ $83
Total: ~ the same as a Powerleap. I can't see any reason to buy a Powerleap adapter.

 

[RU482]

hell, if you're going to go that far, just go to newegg and get a K7S5a and an Athlon XP1700+ for $170

 

[Clevor]

SPEAKING OF THE DEVIL!!! I just did a comparison between the two. I used the same board, a P3V4X.

I have a 600E up to 144 FSB on an Iwill Slocket II (864 mhz), and an 850 Slot I which I tested at default 100 FSB. So both CPUs are running about the same mhz, and you figure the Slocket II setup will win with the 144 FSB, right?

Well yes, it gets better 3DMark scores, but I found in actual seat-of-the-pants gaming, the Slot I runs a bit smoother. Now first of all, I am running all my games at the ragged edge: 1600x1200x32 on a Radeon 8500, all settings absolutely maxed. On games like IL-2 Sturmovik, I get a 'chugging' effect on the Slocket, but it is non-existent on the Slot 1.

Also, take the Radeon Island demos. If you turn 16-tap anisotrophy on the card, the pans get really ragged on the Slocket, but it is discernably smoother on the Slot 1.

There's no doubt in my mind the adapter affects gaming, since the signals have to pass through that big socket 370 on the Slocket, and then to the Secc II socket.

I also tested other Slot I CPUS and they really rip. Now the next thing to do is put that FC-PGA on a true Socket 370 MB like a CUSL, and I PRESUME, it will then perform on a par with the Slot 1.

I also found that the Alpha P3125 Slot I heatsink, though it's a real bear to use since it's so bulky, runs a bit cooler than the Alpha 6035 on my flip chip. I get around 37-38 C stress on that, and around 34-35 C on the 850 at 110 FSB (highest it will go). Voltages are about the same: 1.80. That P3125 is really overbuilt, with the two fans and all.

Lemme tell you, I am impressed with that old Slot 1. It really rips. I am getting smooth gameplay at 1600x1200x32 in NOLF, RTCW, and most the time in Serious Sam Second Encounter! Run an 866EB or 933EB Slot 1 (if you can still find one), something that will guarantee 133 FSB (notice my dud 850E), and it will still serve you well.

 

[Clevor]

Like Andy was saying, what MB are you using? You say you have a 600E Slot I. Perchance you have the legendary SL44Y Malay? Some guys on the Overclockers.com database were hitting 170 FSB with that thing! Why not try overclocking it? It should hit 133 FSB (800 mhz) no sweat like mine, and it's a flip chip. I haven't been able to get over 144 stable in 3D on it though.

 

[RU482]

Damn, I had the same setup (P3V4X and I-will slocket, anyway) good ole setup

I could be fullashit, but I thought an overclocked CPU did not perform as well (as your test shows) as the same speed as overclocked CPU ...i.e. 650 oc'd to 800 would not be as good as an 800, no matter the fsb

Could be the fog in my brain

 

[merlocka]

There's no doubt in my mind the adapter affects gaming, since the signals have to pass through that big socket 370 on the Slocket, and then to the Secc II socket.

lol, cause the electrons get tired.

i.e. 650 oc'd to 800 would not be as good as an 800, no matter the fsb

Assuming the overclocked CPU is stable and the FSB's are equal, the performance would be the same.

 

[techwanabe]

<< hell, if you're going to go that far, just go to newegg and get a K7S5a and an Athlon XP1700+ for $170 >>



Your not taking into account hell need new memory and a new case/PS if he did that. If cost savings is the goal, which I'd assume, then Oldfarts suggestion is the best. Otherwise you better add another $150 minimum to your figure for 256k DDR and a new case/PS + shipping. Now your talking $320+ for the upgrade... not a bad deal to be sure, but twice the price.