Do schools share too much information with parents?

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Bateluer

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/05/31/digital.helicopter.parent/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

(CNN) -- Are schools creating a new breed of helicopter parent?

Teacher Terri Reh wants parents to monitor their children's entire educational career online.

"I post all my students' responsibilities, their current and upcoming assignments, and timelines for every project they have," says the teacher at Flagstaff Academy in Longmont, Colorado. "I also post messages detailing the status of homework, whether it's missing, late, or incomplete."

Reh refers to herself as her school's "biggest technology adopter," and recently won a statewide award for her efforts.

Unlike many teachers across the country who use school-funded technology to help middle and high school students track their own work online, Reh uses it to target parents. Her students are in third grade.

"Anything we can do to engage parents is what we need to do. Kids do better in school when mom and dad are involved," Reh says.

Reh also has a website highlighting her daily classroom schedule and invites parents to subscribe to her Twitter feed so they can follow her activities in and out of the classroom.

Patricia Davis' daughter is in Reh's class. The mother of twins enjoys going on Infinite Campus, the centralized computer system Flagstaff uses, any time of the day or night.

"I use it to make sure my daughter's assignments are done and to check her overall grades. I've sometimes caught mistakes when the grade online doesn't reflect the grade I know she earned, but when I've brought these errors to the teacher's attention, she's corrected them every time."

Student management systems, as they are known in the educational world, began trickling into U.S. schools about 10 years ago. They are now so popular Ann Flynn, director of Education Technology at the National School Boards Association, considers their use "commonplace."

In its latest study released last year, the educational marketing company Market Data Retrieval concluded that 97% of all districts it surveyed have "substantially or fully implemented" some sort of student data management system.

Indeed, online programs have expanded to such a degree parents can now conduct full academic surveillance.

Much of this e-hovering happens in real-time without the need for a child to share potentially disappointing news at the dinner table. If your son gets a C on a quiz, you could get pinged with an automated e-mail before he gets home from school and can tell you himself.

Carol Bengle Gilbert (no relation to author) wants none of it. The Maryland mother of three children ages 16, 13 and 11 says the amount of information coming at her is out of control and unnecessary.

She says her children's teachers not only post assignments and due dates, they also list the percentage each assignment is worth toward final grades.

When questions come up about how her kids are doing in school, teachers have assumed she's been following along online.

"I tell them flat out, I don't do that. I don't think it's normal to be so involved. It creates an unhealthy relationship between parents and their kids. I think kids resent it. My job as a parent is to teach them how to do things on their own. I don't want to be that kind of policeman in my house."


On Edutopia.org, the George Lucas Educational Foundation website, kids have been vocal for years about wanting more autonomy in school.

One child complained on a discussion board, "Every single time a teacher entered a grade incorrectly, I had a missing assignment, or something else bringing my grade in a certain class down, it was hell at home. I began to stress more over my parents' reaction to grades than the actual grades."

Another student railed, "My mom now seems like the enemy."

Christopher Daddis, an expert in adolescent-parent relationships and associate professor of psychology at The Ohio State University, says while children almost always get better grades when parents participate in their education, kids run into emotional trouble if they feel micromanaged.

"When parents exert too much control, children can become depressed and have increased levels of anxiety."

Tensions also bubble up when students feel blindsided. Daddis says parents who choose to keep tabs on their children's schoolwork remotely must come clean.

"It's important to recognize that parents have the upper hand like never before. They can know something a child hasn't shared and catch them in a lie.

"Parents need to inform their children that they are going online, and tell them honestly why they feel they need to do so. They should never go behind their child's back."

To me, this sounds like a great idea and an excellent way to involve the parents. Seems to me, that Mrs Gilbert ought to stop in and check on her children's school work from time to time. Nothing says she has to check it nightly, but giving it a once over every month or so sounds like a good idea, catch problems before they snowball into a major issue.

On the students complaining that every time a teacher entered a bad grade etc, section I bolded, I would think this is an easy fix. I would be shocked if there's not a school email address posted for the teacher to allow the parents to contact the teacher with such inquiries. Misposted grades happen, and every time they happened to me, I was easily able to get it corrected. And this was 15 years ago.

Sounds like the parents are just lazy and the children don't like being held accountable. When you combine these, its a recipe for a major disaster.
 

moshquerade

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"When I was in school...."

....my homework, my schoolwork was MY responsibility. it seems giving the parents all these details is making it the parent's responsibility.

I cannot remember my parents helping me study for anything or tell me when something was due or know what percentage my homework was in my final grade.
And guess what? I kept track of that all myself and did very well.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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So, its finally come true.

"This is going on your permanent record and will follow you the rest of your life!"
 

drebo

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"When I was in school...."

....my homework, my schoolwork was MY responsibility. it seems giving the parents all these details is making it the parent's responsibility.

I cannot remember my parents helping me study for anything or tell me when something was due or know what percentage my homework was in my final grade.
And guess what? I kept track of that all myself and did very well.

The biggest problem is that teachers aren't allowed to discipline and fail kids anymore. If a kid isn't doing his work, the teacher can't just fail him. Sometimes, involving the parent is the only way to make sure the kid learns anything.

Really, though, by Jr. High or Highschool, kids should be able to go online and get their assignments. No reason for this technology not to be used. And, if parents care enough, there's no reason for them not to be able to have access to their kids' classroom records.

Also, sometimes waiting until quarterly progress reports is just too long to notify parents that the kids aren't doing their work.
 

xanis

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I don't see a problem with this. For today's parents (many of whom spend 8+ hours a day around a computer) this makes sense.

Also, we all know that the parents complaining about getting too much information would be the same ones complaining if they didn't get enough information.
 

lxskllr

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I don't see a problem with this. For today's parents (many of whom spend 8+ hours a day around a computer) this makes sense.

Also, we all know that the parents complaining about getting too much information would be the same ones complaining if they didn't get enough information.

I think it's a great a idea. Just because the information's provided, it doesn't mean it all has to be used. It saves everyone time, and fits in with modern, busy schedules. If that information gets abused by parents, or children, it isn't the information's fault. It's a failing of the people involved.
 

Newbian

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Parents don't want to be parents? What else is new...

They expect the school to raise their children and when they find out their children are failing they get pissed off at the school. :D
 

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we need the option to send the slacker kids to be apprenticed to cobblers, coopers and buggy whip makers
 

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We've had this in our school system that last 5 years.

I will agree on one thing that one of the kids put on the message board, I would see a "missing assignment" and inquisition my kid. Sometimes it was their fault, sometimes it was because the teacher screwed up.
 

shortylickens

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Voluntarily? No.

Parents beg for all that shit cuz they are too fucking lazy to actually check up with the kids personally.
 

DrPizza

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It's not necessary 90% of the time, or more. Most of the parents aren't looking. But, imagine you're the teacher of a child with a helicopter parent. "What do you mean Johnny failed the 3rd quarter? How did you let this happen without letting me know?!" Too much info to parents is "cover your ass" for teachers.
 

shortylickens

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It's not necessary 90% of the time, or more. Most of the parents aren't looking. But, imagine you're the teacher of a child with a helicopter parent. "What do you mean Johnny failed the 3rd quarter? How did you let this happen without letting me know?!" Too much info to parents is "cover your ass" for teachers.

I am of the opinion that the vast majority of effort put in by schools is focused on avoiding law suits.
 

DCal430

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There is a school district here that scans elementary students in and scans them out. An email is sent to the parents when the child is scan in and out. I thought it was excessive.
 

MovingTarget

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I am of the opinion that the vast majority of effort put in by schools is focused on avoiding law suits.

Vast majority? No, but it is still too much effort. I'm with DrPizza on this one...teachers do need to CYA because many parents tend to scapegoat teachers for their own (or their child's own) failures. This information can be put to very good use by involved parents. Simply knowing when to allow their child a degree of autonomy on these things is good parenting. Schools can't really do much in that area.
 
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