Do people really want to put up with 4 more years of this virus???

sportage

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My last pitch and last ditch effort for people to come to their senses. Donald Trump vs Joe Biden. I believe that a president Joe Biden would win against the virus. How??? First off, a president Biden would impost the Defense Production Act to not only mass produce PPE equipment, but to also mass produce actual N95 face masks to be made available for free to every American. This should have happened already if America has a real president and vice president. Every American should have full access to an actual N95 face mask, and as many N95 masks as the household would need. Every American, every American business, every American school. That would truly cut down the spread of this virus, and I believe this will be the one thing that Joe Biden would actually do as president. The Defense Production Act, N95 face masks for everyone.

Second, I believe Joe Biden would create a plan for America to actually and realistically return to work, return to schools, and return back to a more normal everyday American life. When that vaccine comes along, Joe would make available that vaccine to every American, and... in a way that America would not be afraid to take the shot. Joe Biden would cut through all of that Trump crap and the Trump conspiracy theories that make people afraid of not only a Covid vaccine, but fearful of any vaccine. With the leadership of Joe Biden, taking a vaccine would not become the issue as it has under Donald Trump simple because Joe Biden believes in the doctors, and Joe Biden believes in the science, and Joe believes NOT in Trump witch doctors or Trump conspiracy theories.

Lets say that Joe Biden is elected AND does in fact implement everything mentioned above, can you imagine the stock market then??? The stock market would recover through the roof simply because American business would realize that America finally has an adult at the wheel. A president Joe Biden that can, and actually will being back America. Bring back American jobs, bring back the schools, and bring back the kind of life that Americans expect. I can see the stock market now, hitting heights never before seen within American history.

So now, lets take a look at another 4 more years of a Donald Trump's America. You can bet your life that the virus would be around for the full 4 years and in full swing. Ravaging the entire country over and over again because of and only because of... Donald Trump's piss poor leadership. Lets face it, Donald Trump has little credibility remaining, and Trump has now promised to kill off what little credibility Trump has remaining by firing Doctor Fauci should Donald Trump become re-elected as president. Once Dr Fauci is out, who the F... will America have remaining to believe in? Who will be left that America can trust? Another Donald Trump witch doctor??? AMERICA... just how bad can it get during the next 4 years of Donald Trump until we all simply give up? The country will come collapsing down upon itself, the raging virus will destroy even more businesses and peoples lives, the stock market will flutter like a dying bird, and we will go through showdown after shutdown in some failed Donald Trump attempt to control the forever ongoing damage. And what about the states? State governors will have no choice but to simply give up, go bankrupt from having no support, no guidance, and no money from Donald Trump. As we already know all too well about Donald Trump, when things get bad Donald Trump becomes even more insane. Donald Trump becomes even more crazier and more crazier. Becomes even more delusional than before. Just imagine another 4 more years of THAT??? And... just imagine a full 4 more years of the virus, and the devastation to what is left of our economy, and the deaths, and the shutdowns, and... what every citizen of every state will suffer through??? Seriously? America? Four more years??? Some 1460 more days? Some 35040 more hours? People... one more hour of Donald Trump, and of this virus is an hour too much.

America is on the edge, the edge of a cliff. Just because we haven't yet fallen off that cliff doesn't mean that we will not fall off under 4 more years of Donald Trump. How bad will it get? Well, just ask yourself how bad do you want it? Because, it can get really really bad, worse than anything America has experienced thus far in our history. Even worse than Stephen King could write about in a horror novel. Sadly, America tends to do everything the hard way. When we have two clear and precise choices in front of us, America tends to pick the wrong choice nearly every time. Like with electing Donald Trump as president in 2016. And after that.... we suffer, and suffer, and suffer some more. I really hope that Americans going to the polls today will ask themselves, do I really want 4 more F...ing years of Donald Trump? Of this virus? Or, will America instead side with Joe Biden and finally forge a path out of this pandemic nightmare??? An easy choice for America, the easy way out or the no way out?
 

Mai72

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I've noticed people who are Trump supporters are convinced that Biden will usher in a new wave of socialism. I've talked to friends, coworkers and they have all told me that they don't want higher taxes, socialism, are afraid of Kamala Harris becoming POTUS, etc. Many people just don't care about COVID19. Remember, half of America thinks this virus is real, the other half thinks it's a hoax. That it's not real, and it's madeup by the Democrats to take control of our lives.

Also, who have been truly hurt by this virus? It's been the lower class. The people who were working side jobs like Uber, and who live in a large extended families. The average middle class professional hasn't really been hurt. In fact, many have benefited. They are able to work at home while avoiding contact with the public. They shop on Amazon in their nice homes. They get their groceries delivered by low wage workers who are putting themselves at risk for getting sick. They have great health care. In my area at the shore in NJ I've noticed a TON of construction going up. Huge summer, winter homes. Life for this segment of the population is great. There is no downtrun in the economy. To these people having Joe as POTUS is bad. Just my 2 cents.
 

Thump553

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Frankly I think Harris is a huge boost to the ticket. This socialism stuff is BS. She is a former hardass prosecutor, and it shows, so their law and order stuff is BS as well.

BTW speaking of the (other) virus, IMO it is going to be a problem for at least the next year and quite possibly longer. Unfortunately we Americans are all used to any problem being resolved by the end of a half hour TV episode (Trump is a prime example of this mindset). We keep thinking a two week sequestering will stop it cold, etc.
 
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eelw

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Nah. This is Canada’s evil to burn the US to the ground so we can take over the rest of the continent
 
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cytg111

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Frankly I think Harris is a huge boost to the ticket. This socialism stuff is BS. She is a former hardass prosecutor, and it shows, so their law and order stuff is BS as well.

BTW speaking of the (other) virus, IMO it is going to be a problem for at least the next year and quite possibly longer. Unfortunately we Americans are all used to any problem being resolved by the end of a half hour TV episode (Trump is a prime example of this mindset). We keep thinking a two week sequestering will stop it cold, etc.
As Obama inherited a fcked up economy and was blasted for it even though he turned it around, Biden will inherit the virus... and conservatives will be blasting him for it come february
 

fskimospy

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As Obama inherited a fcked up economy and was blasted for it even though he turned it around, Biden will inherit the virus... and conservatives will be blasting him for it come february
This much is true - if Biden does in fact win conservatives will abruptly rediscover their desire to control the pandemic and their hatred of budget deficits.

Even worse, they are going to insist we all pretend to believe them and that pointing out that they are huge liars and hypocrites will be evidence of bias against them or being mean and divisive.
 

woolfe9998

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Do you actually believe the virus could be eradicated in 4 years?

No, because I don't think it's ever going to be "eradicated." Evidence suggests we aren't getting long term immunity from infection. More likely we'll be getting yearly vaccinations (or not getting them, such as the case may be), and will develop better therapeutics. Maybe we get the death toll down to the flu range year to year. But it's not going away any more than the flu is.
 

blackangst1

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No, because I don't think it's ever going to be "eradicated." Evidence suggests we aren't getting long term immunity from infection. More likely we'll be getting yearly vaccinations (or not getting them, such as the case may be), and will develop better therapeutics. Maybe we get the death toll down to the flu range year to year. But it's not going away any more than the flu is.

I would agree with you. I think all we can do is guess at this point what the long term future looks like with COVID19. Although it feels like a lifetime, we're still in year one.
 

SteveGrabowski

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No, because I don't think it's ever going to be "eradicated." Evidence suggests we aren't getting long term immunity from infection. More likely we'll be getting yearly vaccinations (or not getting them, such as the case may be), and will develop better therapeutics. Maybe we get the death toll down to the flu range year to year. But it's not going away any more than the flu is.

Probably biannual vaccination
 

Juiblex

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That was a lot of words for this group of people... I couldn't even read it all but I'm not sure why you are idolizing biden.

Ps. Most viruses spread through physical contact. I'd recommend gloves.
 
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I've noticed people who are Trump supporters are convinced that Biden will usher in a new wave of socialism. I've talked to friends, coworkers and they have all told me that they don't want higher taxes, socialism, are afraid of Kamala Harris becoming POTUS, etc. Many people just don't care about COVID19. Remember, half of America thinks this virus is real, the other half thinks it's a hoax. That it's not real, and it's madeup by the Democrats to take control of our lives.

Also, who have been truly hurt by this virus? It's been the lower class. The people who were working side jobs like Uber, and who live in a large extended families. The average middle class professional hasn't really been hurt. In fact, many have benefited. They are able to work at home while avoiding contact with the public. They shop on Amazon in their nice homes. They get their groceries delivered by low wage workers who are putting themselves at risk for getting sick. They have great health care. In my area at the shore in NJ I've noticed a TON of construction going up. Huge summer, winter homes. Life for this segment of the population is great. There is no downtrun in the economy. To these people having Joe as POTUS is bad. Just my 2 cents.

Are you new to politics in the US?

It doesn't matter what side it is - they always say the other side will be extreme in an effort to rile up their base voters.


Trump is going to kill us all / destroy our government / kill babies / take away your social security / <insert other typical fearmongering>.
 

Indus

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Do you actually believe the virus could be eradicated in 4 years?

The virus needs a living host that is willing to spread it around in America - They are called Trumpanzees.

If we eliminate the Trumpanzees by shipping them all to Russia, we eliminate the virus in America!

But Freedumb gets in the way!
 

cytg111

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Do you actually believe the virus could be eradicated in 4 years?

Its a trap! In plain sight.... Eradicted.
Contained. Contained in 4 years? Hell yea. Small outbreaks, hotspots, enter vaccine squad, dial it down.
100% yea. And Biden will implement the infrastructure for this to happen.
 
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I've noticed people who are Trump supporters are convinced that Biden will usher in a new wave of socialism. I've talked to friends, coworkers and they have all told me that they don't want higher taxes, socialism, are afraid of Kamala Harris becoming POTUS, etc. Many people just don't care about COVID19. Remember, half of America thinks this virus is real, the other half thinks it's a hoax. That it's not real, and it's madeup by the Democrats to take control of our lives.

Also, who have been truly hurt by this virus? It's been the lower class. The people who were working side jobs like Uber, and who live in a large extended families. The average middle class professional hasn't really been hurt. In fact, many have benefited. They are able to work at home while avoiding contact with the public. They shop on Amazon in their nice homes. They get their groceries delivered by low wage workers who are putting themselves at risk for getting sick. They have great health care. In my area at the shore in NJ I've noticed a TON of construction going up. Huge summer, winter homes. Life for this segment of the population is great. There is no downtrun in the economy. To these people having Joe as POTUS is bad. Just my 2 cents.
They are afraid of Kamala Harris? What about the current chameleon in the White House? They should be scared of him and all the sh*t he has done or does he gets a pass because he is White like them? Please explain it slowly! I'll wait...

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feralkid

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Ps. Most viruses spread through physical contact. I'd recommend gloves.



Riiiight.

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brycejones

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Nah. This is Canada’s evil to burn the US to the ground so we can take over the rest of the continent
We have an evil revenge plan to heat up the planet so much that fire ants invade Canada as a our revenge. They've made it to Kansas so far.
 
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