Do our troops fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq really need that much ammo?

[piasabird]

The general was requesting 80,000 troops (Call it a wish list). If we can afford to pay for the war in Afghanistan we should just pull out and wait for the terrorists to come to us. You can never have enough ammo in a war zone. When a convoy of soldiers gets ambushed they need lots of bullets, and gernades and artillery and ammo for planes and drones and helicopters, and tanks, and armored personnel carriers.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Of course they did. Innocent women, men and children are plenty in Iraq, there had to be a mass amount of bullets to take them out. And yeah, let's not forget these peoples pets.

Dog killing is typically the deployment highlight of those who would otherwise never fire their weapon. Some of my soldiers raised a dog since it was a tiny puppy for more than a year, then one day the CSM, making his first appearance on the outlying FOB in 6 months, flies in, and wastes no time in shooting their dog. Then brags about his Mossberg shotgun "18 shots, 18 dead dogs." Fucking toolbag.

If i were to see a dog (or cat) near camp i'd shoot it. If you want to keep pets, stay at home.

I bet you'd hit it 3000 meters away with your trusty 30-06, fucking hero. Eat a dick, "sir."

No, son, eating dicks is what you do, i prefer pussy.

I don't give a sheit what you say about it but it's actually commonly ordered that no animal enters camp for more than one reason, i'll leave it up to you to figure it out but it has been posted and a Medic on this forum who had been in the area confirmed it.

It's nothing to brag about though, i'll agree with that.

That's called "vector control," and it's usually only meant for the packs of wild dogs that wander around Afghanistan carrying too many diseases to count.

There are plenty of stories of soldiers raising dogs in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even bringing them home. I happen to love those stories.

I had to chuckle at that term, "vector control." I usually use it in reference to kids.

You know, I never gave a thought about killing stray animals around patrol bases as I don't remember seeing any. Likely someone got to them first as we did not allow any pets in the units I was in. One trooper had a pet rock, but that was it. If he wanted to hump that extra ounce, it was OK with me and the Top. As I remember he also had to "volunteer" to carry an extra bandolier of M60 ammo. Can't have too much ammo for the crew served weapons!

Did have to kill a couple of mutts while on sneak and peek patrols, though. Never gave it a second thought.

BTW, if anyone is interested there is a program for adoption of retired war dogs and another one for raising the Belgian Malinois puppies used by the military. You can check it out here -

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MILITARY WORKING DOG SCHOOL

Military Working Dog Adoption

DOD Puppy Program

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Regardless of what JoS said, I know most British soldiers love dogs too.

check it out:
Sandbag the dog befriended by troops in Iraq is flown to safety in UK -- along with three others
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...q-flown-safety-UK.html

Then there's this, which is always good for a free smile:
Operation Baghdad Pups
http://www.spcai.org/baghdad-pups.html

U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan befriend local animals as a way to help cope with the emotional hardships they endure every day while deployed in a war zone. The Operation Baghdad Pups program provides veterinary care and coordinates complicated logistics and transportation requirements in order to reunite these beloved pets with their service men and women back in the U.S. These important animals not only help our heroes in the war zone, but they also help them readjust to life back home after combat.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: PJABBER
some shit

So what you are saying is that "war is good"

War is a fact of life and it may be its definition.

War is useful as a means of settling both significant and insignificant differences, but going to War may be a mistake.

War is one of Nature's ways of dealing with overpopulation, the others being famine and pestilence.

War is one of Mankind's greatest inspirations and greatest aspirations. War is culture.

War is neither good nor bad. All sides in War claim morality.

Sacrifice is the essence of War.

The development of technology has rendered the practice of modern total War obsolete as it may now be species destructive. But this efficiency will not stop Man from conducting War.

That sound's great, you're no Siegfried Sassoon, but, credit for trying. I tell you what, why not post these wonderful insights to the parents of young men killed overseas for God knows what reason (but it's usually money), I'm sure they'll take comfort in knowing that their child no longer contributes to overpopulation, has settled differences and has formed a part of an inspirational and cultural event that was neither good nor bad. I reckon they are already aware that sacrifice is the essence of war. I would tell you to pass these words of wisdom on to your own son, but the idea of you producing offspring proves too terrible to contemplate. Off you go with those letters.

Sometimes it is better to grieve and move on. I have written letters to parents, to wives and to children, but those occasions are not the time to engage in philosophy as you well know. My intent was always to offer not only a brief description of the action which took life, but to offer as best a validation of the soldier's time with us as I could, no matter the actual circumstance of death in peacetime or in conflict. I always made it a point to meet with the family if they extended an invitation to do so and I considered it an honor to be invited. I still correspond with the families of a few and make a personal contribution to their kids' education funds.

I want my kids to know the reality of the world and to develop the skills and understanding necessary to survive and to prosper intellectually and emotionally and to make whatever contribution they can in whatever they choose to do. They have lived rough and they have lived well, they have been in places of abject poverty and they have seen the comforts that only money can buy, but of all things I prefer they do not experience war. But there is not always a choice to be made, is there?

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: CptCrunch
I have never understood why earmarks are still allowed today.... absolutely ridiculous.

Another source for their re-election funds. Buy a bunch of useless crap and then use that to stay in Congress.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
As a combat vet I can say unequivocally that when you are playing with bad guys there is no such thing as too much ammo.

Sure you can.

fail.

That ammo is for the gunner walking next to him you dolt. But I bet you already knew that... :roll:

That picture is f'n dumb.

I didn't realize so many people had difficulty with humor on the right. The picture was obviously a joke, not some serious attack on the guy. Get a clue.

When I saw the 'you can't have too much ammo' line, I took a quick look for something humorous like that, and found and posted it. Sheesh to the clueless responses.

'dolt' and so on - you go on the ignore list not for being clueless, but rudely clueless.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: CptCrunch
I have never understood why earmarks are still allowed today.... absolutely ridiculous.

Because they are very effective for getting people elected. Get the American people to get informed and not give away their vote based on wellp-funded marketing. Next question?

We can't even get the people in this forum to read much good information, like that linked in my sig, what are your chances for getting the average citizen to escape propaganda?

The real problem is the the system, not the people in it, who are just doing what the system rewards.

Do I need to post a thread on reforming the system that gets a few responses and quickly is gone to demonstrate to you the problem with the citizens not dealing with it?

I've called many times for getting big money out of the system, and I don't think there have been five posts in response. But that leads to the things you hate.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
but it's actually commonly ordered that no animal enters camp for more than one reason, i'll leave it up to you to figure it out...

On a British base, I'd guess it's for lovin'.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Of course they did. Innocent women, men and children are plenty in Iraq, there had to be a mass amount of bullets to take them out. And yeah, let's not forget these peoples pets.

Dog killing is typically the deployment highlight of those who would otherwise never fire their weapon. Some of my soldiers raised a dog since it was a tiny puppy for more than a year, then one day the CSM, making his first appearance on the outlying FOB in 6 months, flies in, and wastes no time in shooting their dog. Then brags about his Mossberg shotgun "18 shots, 18 dead dogs." Fucking toolbag.

If i were to see a dog (or cat) near camp i'd shoot it. If you want to keep pets, stay at home.

I bet you'd hit it 3000 meters away with your trusty 30-06, fucking hero. Eat a dick, "sir."

No, son, eating dicks is what you do, i prefer pussy.

I don't give a sheit what you say about it but it's actually commonly ordered that no animal enters camp for more than one reason, i'll leave it up to you to figure it out but it has been posted and a Medic on this forum who had been in the area confirmed it.

It's nothing to brag about though, i'll agree with that.

That's called "vector control," and it's usually only meant for the packs of wild dogs that wander around Afghanistan carrying too many diseases to count.

There are plenty of stories of soldiers raising dogs in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even bringing them home. I happen to love those stories.

It was worse in our part of the area, we were very rarely at a proper camp and after the fucking fiasco in Sarajevo those recommendations are taking very seriously. It doesn't matter if they are just one or in packs either.

I don't hate dogs though, nor do i get a kick out of shooting them, i have two of them at home.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
but it's actually commonly ordered that no animal enters camp for more than one reason, i'll leave it up to you to figure it out...

On a British base, I'd guess it's for lovin'.

Son, British have bad teeth, Alabamans marry their children and Texans fuck their animals, try to get it right.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, British have bad teeth, Alabamans marry their children and Texans fuck their animals, try to get it right.

Come on, the Brits have long had suspicious sheep fixation.

Watch this and then disagree. It's worth the watch.

Or there's additional documentation.

But the Texans may keep first place.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, British have bad teeth, Alabamans marry their children and Texans fuck their animals, try to get it right.

Come on, the Brits have long had suspicious sheep fixation.

Watch this and then disagree. It's worth the watch.

Or there's additional documentation.

But the Texans may keep first place.

Sheep shaggers are a dying breed... for obvious reasons.

I never said i'd shoot a sheep.