Do Nice Guys Finish Last?

thehstrybean

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Do nice guys always finish last? Original Essay....
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Original Essay (for people who don't feel like clicking...)
It?s amazing that a$$holes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it?s not that amazing. They are a$$holes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT?S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen?until they get into what they?re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what a$$holes their predators really are, they pretend like the a$$holes is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the a$$holes into a nice guy, but a$$holes will always be a$$holes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the a$$holes. But she claims to love the a$$holes?now this is where the theory begins. She doesn?t want to look like she is easy so she won?t dump the a$$holes right away, instead she will stay with the a$$holes. Girls are idiots. They don?t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don?t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their a$$hole boyfriend.

But the nice guy isn?t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don?t say, ?Oh he?s hot? or ?I want to have his children? about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don?t need it from the a$$hole. The nice guy gets the sh1t end of the stick while the a$$hole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action? I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE?at least not in the women department.

Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the a$$holes is because a$$holes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, ?Why isn?t he paying attention to me?? so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the a$$hole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The a$$hole finally says, ?I?ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass?. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him?even thought all she has won is an a$$hole.

Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a ?listener? you can?t turn back. The girl will always go after the a$$holes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a ?listener? you can?t do anything about it?just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants?ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn?t work like that. The girl won?t ?come to her senses? and realize what an a$$hole her boyfriend is like in the movies? instead she will just go after another a$$hole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren?t looking for nice guys?they say they are but they?re not. They are looking for the perfect a$$hole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect a$$hole.

All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don?t treat you with respect, that don?t listen to you, and that don?t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your a$$hole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself?because he has listened to it all.
 

91TTZ

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Yes. Most women fall for the "bad boy" act and get screwed over repeatedly. Then they complain to the decent guys that there are no good men out there. Then he asks her out and gets rejected, only to see her date another "bad boy".

It's their fault, they have to live with the consequences. If you really want a piece, you just have to act like an assh*le and introduce yourself as "Ron Mexico" or something.

"He's so nice" <=== never gonna get it

"He's such an assh*le!" <=== is currently getting it
 

LtPage1

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define "last." yes, it takes us longer to get the girl, but when we do- its worth it. women prefer bad guys, but they marry the nice ones.
 

yllus

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Nice guys don't finish last, boring guys finish last.

Very often the same people who whine about how nice they act are actually incredibly boring to hang out with.

That said, you're liable to attract more girls in the 18-25 year old age bracket by greeting them with a smack on the ass than you are with a polite hello and inquiry as to if they would like a drink.
 

Sunbird

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Originally posted by: yllus
Nice guys don't finish last, boring guys finish last.

Very often the same people who whine about how nice they act are actually incredibly boring to hang out with.

That said, you're liable to attract more girls in the 18-25 year old age bracket by greeting them with a smack on the ass than you are with a polite hello and inquiry as to if they would like a drink.

Dammit, I'm boring too!!! So no :cookie: for me. :(
 

Paratus

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In point of fact I was a listner and I ended up marrying the girl I was listening too. :Q

But in general yes I agree with you.
 

Doboji

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nah... a$$holes get laid alot.... but thats far far far from finishing first. They finish with lots of divorces, alimony, child support, and STDs. Nice guys finish first... it's just a matter of understanding what the "finish" really is. A happy life.
 

thehstrybean

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2 examples from my life:
1) I met this girl one day during study hall (she randomly said something to me, and it was the "dark ages" for me with women)...We went into the hall to work on Anc/Med History (because she asked me too and I love history)...We had A LOT in commen...I grew to the point where I loved (and still do, in a way) her...This year, she started dating a guy who isn't exactly an a$$hole, but he isn't exactly a nice guy...
2) I have another friend (who is a girl)...We know EVERYTHING about each other...She wanted to find a prom date...Well, I was gonna wait to ask...My above friend (from #1) and girl #2 are very good friends, and girl #1 suggested a complete a$$hole for girl #2, just so girl #2 could have a prom date...This guy is the king of a$$holes...immature, gross...everything under the sun...She started going out with him...She gets pissed/sad at any little thing he does that's immature, ect...She started dating an a$$hole...Why? Who knows...

 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
2 examples from my life:
1) I met this girl one day during study hall (she randomly said something to me, and it was the "dark ages" for me with women)...We went into the hall to work on Anc/Med History (because she asked me too and I love history)...We had A LOT in commen...I grew to the point where I loved (and still do, in a way) her...This year, she started dating a guy who isn't exactly an a$$hole, but he isn't exactly a nice guy...

when in that story did you ask her out?

She started dating an a$$hole...Why? Who knows...

maybe because the nice guy never asked her out ;)
 

Sunbird

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
2 examples from my life:
1) I met this girl one day during study hall (she randomly said something to me, and it was the "dark ages" for me with women)...We went into the hall to work on Anc/Med History (because she asked me too and I love history)...We had A LOT in commen...I grew to the point where I loved (and still do, in a way) her...This year, she started dating a guy who isn't exactly an a$$hole, but he isn't exactly a nice guy...
2) I have another friend (who is a girl)...We know EVERYTHING about each other...She wanted to find a prom date...Well, I was gonna wait to ask...My above friend (from #1) and girl #2 are very good friends, and girl #1 suggested a complete a$$hole for girl #2, just so girl #2 could have a prom date...This guy is the king of a$$holes...immature, gross...everything under the sun...She started going out with him...She gets pissed/sad at any little thing he does that's immature, ect...She started dating an a$$hole...Why? Who knows...

Nobody, not her, not you, not the a$$hole.

Women = mayhem + chaos.

Good times, good times.
 

Ricochet

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1. Work out, become muscular, and improve your looks. Women (especially hot ones) are just as shallow as men.

2. If you don't have any game (as all nice guys do not), think about the future. Work on your grades, get into a good college, and get a high paying job. Work your @ss off to earn money and advance your career. By the time you become a success, the women your age will no longer become attractive to you. You can attract younger women.

3. Keep this in mind: when women grow older their stock drops substantially, men's will go up if they play their cards right. Men are attracted to beauty, while women are attracted to money. Guess which one age better.

4. In the mean time, do what every red-blooded men do: drink beer, watch football, and go to strip clubs (when you're old enough, of course). Go to parties, clubs, and bars and pickup on chicks who are drunk to improve your chances of success.

5. If you have access, listen to Tom Leykis.
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: yllus
Nice guys don't finish last, boring guys finish last.

Very often the same people who whine about how nice they act are actually incredibly boring to hang out with.

That said, you're liable to attract more girls in the 18-25 year old age bracket by greeting them with a smack on the ass than you are with a polite hello and inquiry as to if they would like a drink.


QFT
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: yllus
Nice guys don't finish last, boring guys finish last.

Very often the same people who whine about how nice they act are actually incredibly boring to hang out with.

That said, you're liable to attract more girls in the 18-25 year old age bracket by greeting them with a smack on the ass than you are with a polite hello and inquiry as to if they would like a drink.

# Some women have very complex psychological problems. Same said women are beyond your rehabilitative capabilities. Save your attention for someone sane enough to appreciate it.
# Never EVER assume that a second date means that you're hoplessly in love with each other. It just means that you are not a rapist, stalker, blatant chauvinist, or completely unattractive.
# There are women who will flirt with you, get you to buy them drinks, dinner, or gifts (depending on how clueless you actually are) and unceremoniously dump you when they are done with you. Get real, get over it, and don't let it happen again.
 

Sex Smurf

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Yeah they wait until the girl finishes, then they finish (last).

Guess that makes me a bad guy?