You driving your car with it's excess emissions compared to a bike is just as socially irresponsible. You're a hypocrite.
You driving your car with it's excess emissions compared to a bike is just as socially irresponsible. You're a hypocrite.
i was pretty sure you rode, but you probably ride like a squid, not caring if other cars see you or not.
So you're a employment lawyer and you ride work? Bet it sure messes up your suit riding to work every day, or it must be a pain having to change in and out of your riding gear and into your suit at the office.
But let me guess, you don't own a car and only take mass transportation now, right?
I agree with your intent. I believe you should be as safe as possible.
I don't agree on your choice though, but that's something that I can't do anything about as you say.
But I'm not so sure about your last statement. I believe the police are starting to crack down on motorcycle noise more and more; at least in California.
People have loud motorcycles because it warns people about their presence? Seriously, no one believes that.
Yes, I see them, I am sure a less annoying/deafening sound can be used though. Anyway driving a bike is pretty risky, but justifying a risk you willingly take at the expense of causing annoyance to others is something I dont completely accept.
I don't think anyone riding a motorcycle is under any delusions of safety. However, non-riders tend to VASTLY exaggerate how unsafe it is. Go study--not just read--some statistics, and you'll see that bikes aren't really that bad. Hell, if I believed you guys, I would be dead three times over by now, since I've been commuting to work every day for months now.
As for the noise factor...I agree that there is a certain point at which the noise becomes more than a safety measure, and indeed a public nuisance. In my experience, it's mostly Harley riders who are guilty of crossing the line...but that could be my personal bias. Well, there are already noise ordinances in effect pretty much anywhere people live...it's not my fault the cops would rather catch people going 5 over the limit than people who drive carelessly, people who blast rap through residential neighborhoods at 2AM, and open pipes.
Tell you what...if you can get the cops to start cracking down on people who honestly can't drive, people who don't signal, people who don't look before changing lanes, and people who talk on their cellphones in heavy 50MPH traffic, I'll start sneaking out at night and installing bigger mufflers on motorcycles.
And that's a bunch of bullshlt, too. Loud pipes piss other people off. Same goes for loud-ass car stereos at the stoplight, too.
If cars are required by law to have mufflers, motorcycles should be, too.
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How many years have you rode?
Have you rode a quiet bike and a loud bike... and both for signifigant periods of time in heavy traffic?
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
BTW, you can be as pissed off as you want about my loud bike. But the fact that you heard me, looked for me, and spotted me is all that matters to me.
I'd rather you be pissed than me be dead.
Since I was 8. Bikes don't have to be as loud as the Harleys with straight pipes. They can be loud without being deafening.
The rice bikes with the hi-perf. pipes aren't loud until you really open them up.
I'd like to see some statistics about which have more accidents because of cars not seeing/hearing them...Harley-types or rice rockets.
I know plenty of dudes that rode Hogs that have gotten run over. Very few were because they weren't seen.
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