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Do large environmental groups care about the environment?

i'm sure some of them are just anti-institution, but i'm sure there are plenty of legitimate environmentalists.
 
ofcorse they do, but to get things fixed they must enter the mistery world of politics and then everything goes to hell.
 
I'm sure that there are individuals within their ranks that care very deeply about the environment. However, the institutionalized end of the movement is all about power and control.

Russ, NCNE
 
I'm an environmentalist, and YES, I give a damn about the environment. My work has nothing to do with making money from environmental projects. What's your point?

BTW, remember, Good planets are hard to find.
 
Environmentalists are preservationalists, they want to keep current or bring back former environmental conditions if feasable, despite the fact that the environment changes not only by human and animal modifications but by natural forces.

And yes, there are some anti-capitalists in disguise among them, especially those stupid militiant Earth Liberation or Animal Liberation Fronts they have.
 
i have no idea about the organizations. but i think activists have severe personal issues. activists of any persuasion... in the u.s. at least.
 
I bet there are a lot of Conservatives who are enviromentalists. They just don't belong to these organizations because they are ostracized by those on the left who are in charge of the Institutions.
 


<< BTW, remember, Good planets are hard to find. >>


First of all, you suck. But that's another story.

Secondly, I'm worried that these groups aren't truly concerned about protecting the environment, but rather they have ulterior motives. I do believe that there should be environmental advocacy groups, BTW.
 


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<< BTW, remember, Good planets are hard to find. >>


First of all, you suck. But that's another story.

Secondly, I'm worried that these groups aren't truly concerned about protecting the environment, but rather they have ulterior motives. I do believe that there should be environmental advocacy groups, BTW. >>



every (yes, every) activism group has ulterior motives. doesn't matter what they're fighting for.
 
Russ -- << ... the institutionalized end of the movement is all about power and control. >>

The same can be said of many of the institutionalized groups, such as the nuclear power industry, who would rape the environment for the sake of immediate profits.

Wasn't it you who was bugging me about generalizations, the other day? I'm sure there are environmentally friendly and hostile large companies and groups across a large range of interests.

Immediate financial gain at the expense of irreplacable environmental safety and preservation is a terrible tradeoff. A reasonable example in your own neighborhood is the Hanford nuclear site.
 
Harvey

You are not going to persuade your opponents if you keep vilifying them. I would highly recommend Introduction to Arguments 101. Oh, and you still suck.
 


<< You are not going to persuade your opponents if you keep vilifying them. I would highly recommend Introduction to Arguments 101. Oh, and you still suck >>

LOL...That's brilliant. An idiot whose posts more often than not resemble the scratchings of a retarded monkey named Mullah on a weekend pass from a petting zoo in Kabul telling Harvey he needs to brush up on his debating skills. Oh the humanity, no make that humility .. as in the lack of.
 
I think some members of environmental groups are into socialism but some members are into democracy too...there's always gonna be some overlap...
 


<< such as the nuclear power industry, who would rape the environment for the sake of immediate profits. >>



Harv,

That's a crock, and you know it. Nuclear is hands down the cleanest source of power outside of hydro - which has a whole set of problems of it's own. Get out of the '70s already.

Russ, NCNE

 
I would add solar and wind power as cleaner than nuclear power. Nuclear power doesn't produce pollution you can see, but there is isn't a solution to what to do with the waste. The plan to store it in Nevada fizzled out, as far as I can follow.

Also, why would anyone villify the encironmentalist groups when the groups they are fighting are far more evil?
 


<< I would add solar and wind power as cleaner than nuclear power. >>



And, here I thought we were talking about viable sources of energy.



<< but there is isn't a solution to what to do with the waste. >>



..yet. There will be. In the interim, it causes far less (zero) harm then coal (pollution) and hydro (destruction of habitat).

Russ, NCNE
 
Some of the best entertainment recently was listening to the tree huggers on the west coast
cry because they had brown-outs.

For Christ's sake, these are the same people who yammered about creating more power plants.

I say Quit yer whining... the spotted owls and field mice are doing fine.....

Maybe a few cold nights in the rain without your beemer and boom box and you might realize
just a couple things about priorities.

IMO, most of the tree huggers are only asking for someone else to make a sacrafice.

Well, not me... no thank you! I set traps to kill mice, drive a hotrod, and sometimes even fart in public....

nope, I don't care if eagles like the smell or not.... not even a little bit

 


<< Well, not me... no thank you! I set traps to kill mice, drive a hotrod, and sometimes even fart in public....

nope, I don't care if eagles like the smell or not.... not even a little bit

 >>

Yeah you is a Manly Man!
 


<< Also, why would anyone villify the encironmentalist groups when the groups they are fighting are far more evil? >>



So burning down people?s houses and driving metal spikes into trees so lumberjacks can maim themselves isn?t considered evil? There are a lot of conservatives that are environmentalists most hunters are too. It?s just that you have some fanatics that want to turn back the hands of time and have us all living like Indians on one side of the spectrum and people that don?t care if we have water to drink and air to breath in the future. Most people fall somewhere in between.
 
I'm an attorney for the Sierra Club and I can tell you for sure not only that care about my environment but that it is a very fine and expensive one.



Anything lethal for ten thousand years doesn't sound clean to me. The waste problems should have been solved first, before the technique was deployed. Nuclear motto: We bury our mistakes.
 
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