Do JRPGs keep their appeal in adulthood? What JRPGs do you play as an adult?

Do you play JRPGs as an adult?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 61.9%
  • No

    Votes: 8 38.1%

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jana519

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Do you still play JRPGs as an adult? I've tried going back to revisit games I played as a kid, but I can't get beyond the cartoonish faces and awful dialogue. Is there much value to JRPGs other than the nostalgic factor?

The main things that draw me to this genre are the elements of strategy, the fantasy themes (there's some really cool fantasy art with monsters/magic), and the difficulty/reward from intense battles. I'd like to experience those things again but I find it hard to look past the kiddy bits.
 

Oyeve

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Not for me. I'm 51 so I was basically a young adult when the better JRPS were new. I try to revisit old ones, like Secret of Mana and the OG final fantasy games and i'm like, WTF?!?!? I couldn't even get into the latest FF game. Just so much emo drama and crap.
 

repoman0

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Not for me. I'm 51 so I was basically a young adult when the better JRPS were new. I try to revisit old ones, like Secret of Mana and the OG final fantasy games and i'm like, WTF?!?!? I couldn't even get into the latest FF game. Just so much emo drama and crap.

I kind of want to play FFXV but even just screenshots of the characters are so cringe worthy. I'm 28 so I grew up playing some of the later FF games (7-10), Chrono Trigger, etc. I think the last couple I played were FFIX at age ~20 and Chrono Trigger DS at ~21, both of which I still quite liked and made it through.

I loved 10 when I played it in the early 2000s but pretty sure I'd be overcome with a desire to punch Tidus in the face if I played it now.
 

shortylickens

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I do occasionally replay the old ones that I like.

Final Fantasy 4, 6, and 7.
The new Secret of Mana.
SNES versions of Dragon Warrior 1 thru 4. Dragon Quest 8 on my old, slightly damaged PS2 slim.

Basically if there arent too many cutscenes I can probably tough it out. I try to slog thru FF7 every once in a while but the damn vids are just so friggen tedious. FF8 has much better quality videos but way too many of them.

The FFX and X-2 remakes allow to skip any cutscene or video and you can also speed up regular gameplay to double or triple speed. Its so damn nice.
 

jana519

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I do occasionally replay the old ones that I like.

Final Fantasy 4, 6, and 7.
The new Secret of Mana.
SNES versions of Dragon Warrior 1 thru 4. Dragon Quest 8 on my old, slightly damaged PS2 slim.

Basically if there arent too many cutscenes I can probably tough it out. I try to slog thru FF7 every once in a while but the damn vids are just so friggen tedious. FF8 has much better quality videos but way too many of them.

The FFX and X-2 remakes allow to skip any cutscene or video and you can also speed up regular gameplay to double or triple speed. Its so damn nice.

Yeah, I may have to give the original FF IV a shot. The graphics look so dated and bad now that it's kind of a "purist" RPG that focuses on combat and party strategy. Some of the older JRPGs were tough as hell, and I kind of like that aspect about them. You really had to prepare for certain enemies and dungeons or you just died, no do-overs.

I was a big fan of the Japanese art style of monsters, the stats, and the equipment you could find. I suppose I can grit through the childish dialogue, don't think FF IV had a whole lot of dialogue.

final-fantasy-iv-4-characters-combat.jpg
 

SteveGrabowski

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I have loved JRPGs since Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Final Fantasy IV & VI on the SNES, and there are still amazing ones being made this generation. For example, Persona 5, Shin Megami Tensei IV, and Bravely Default for old school turn based games, or NieR Automata, Final Fantasy XV, and Bloodborne for more modern action Japanese RPGs.
 

JujuFish

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I'm currently playing Radiant Historia on my 3DS and having fun with it.
 
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I'd play all the JRPGs if I had the time. Now well into my mid-30's and with 2 kids, it's just impossible to put in 100+ hours into a game. Well, I do still play destiny from time to time, so all my hours go into that.
 

evident

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I'm 32, currently playing FF6 (FF3 US) for the first time on SNES emulator. I enjoy the story alot and like the 16 bit graphics. I don't know if I would go back and play RPG's that I already finished. To me RPG's are a genre that I play once and nevr touch again. I tried playing Super Mario RPG again on an emulator but got pretty disinterested quickly not because it's an uninteresting game though. This was a game I played and beat when it first came out many many years ago. it's the actual random battles I don't enjoy about JRPGs.

Currently working on my Wii U backlog and playing Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE which has a cool story so far.
 
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I'm 32, currently playing FF6 (FF3 US) for the first time on SNES emulator. I enjoy the story alot and like the 16 bit graphics. I don't know if I would go back and play RPG's that I already finished. To me RPG's are a genre that I play once and nevr touch again. I tried playing Super Mario RPG again on an emulator but got pretty disinterested quickly not because it's an uninteresting game though. This was a game I played and beat when it first came out many many years ago. it's the actual random battles I don't enjoy about JRPGs.

Currently working on my Wii U backlog and playing Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE which has a cool story so far.

Same here. For me, there are just too many other J/RPGs that I haven't played yet.

For example, Tales of Vesperia is one of my favorite Tales games, but I probably won't ever replay it since I'd rather put in 100+ hours into a tales game I haven't touched yet.
 

jana519

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I tried a bunch of SNES titles on an emulator and the graphics are just too dated for me. I think I'm officially done with 16 bit games.

I also tried out a bunch of JRPGs on PCSX2 (Disgaea, Rogue Galaxy, Front Mission V, Kingdom Hearts) and I found myself bored with all of them, except for Dragon's Quest VIII. I am currently playing it and about 15 hours in. It's utterly charming and just sucks you in. I suppose I'm looking for games that effortlessly draw me in at this point, and DQ8 does it.

Though there are some glaring gameplay flaws and a very linear overworld, I find the music, artwork, and story are all so well crafted. This is one of those titles with plenty of "soul".
 

Aikouka

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I'm sort of mixed on the state of JRPGs. I think my biggest problem comes from what has happened to Japanese storytelling since the mid-90s. It's almost like stories have become unnecessarily complex and overstuffed with Philosophy and Psychology. To me, part of that "unnecessary complexity" is the excessive use of proper nouns. It may seem like a strange complaint, but when you bring up so many terms at once, I feel like I need a glossary just to play the game. (Eventually, I get used to them, but it does take a little bit of time.) To be fair, it isn't so bad if the names are fairly normal, but when you get to games like Final Fantasy XIII with "l'Cie" and "fal'Cie", and my brow is cocked in a way that would make The Rock proud. I've been playing Final Fantasy XIV lately, and while it's technically an MMO, the game does force you to go through all story quests if you want to proceed to newer content. Some of the names are fairly simple like Garlean Empire, but then you get the names of the people from said empire such as Gaius van Baelsar, Nero tol Scaeva, and Rhitahtyn sas Arvina. (Keep in mind that those midle terms such as "van" and "tol" have a meaning too.)

My issues with the JRPG stories aren't usually limited to just JRPGs or even games. In watching anime, I tend to notice the same sort of problem where the story seems fairly normal, but all of a sudden, it takes this wild and crazy turn. It makes me wonder if there's this sort of obsession with originality in Japanese story writing? I think my problem with that is that originality isn't nearly as necessary as some make it out to be. Tropes often get a bad rap, but what makes a trope bad is if the writer just lazily implements it. An interesting example of how a fairly basic concept can turn into something fun is the manga/anime One Punch Man. The show probably looks a lot like a standard, shounen anime ("shounen" is Japanese for "boy" and refers to anime aimed at about 10-16), and arguably, it is one. What's interesting about it is that while the show features your typical overpowered protagonist, it knows how to do it in a way that's still interesting to the viewer. Another problem that I have with the weird twists is that they often seem a bit slapdash. A twist can be an incredibly powerful narrative tool, but a proper twist is usually written by including clues throughout that subtlely point toward it... or at least enough to make the reader/viewer say "hm?". The movie Sixth Sense is a good example of this as there are details that clue the viewer in on it. (A good example is how Bruce Willis's clothes never change throughout the movie.)

Outside of story, I can't say that I'm too fond of some of the mechanics. Honestly, I prefer turn-based combat in my JRPGs. There are games that I try to play over the years that focus on action combat, which is usually some weird mix of turn-based and action. An example is Ni no Kuni, and unfortunately, I gave up on the game because I just couldn't stand the combat. I was in some boss battle, and an AOE required me to swap over to another character just to tell them to defend. The whole action just felt so cumbersome, and that combos with another complaint that's in a similar vein. When you get an action-y combat system, the games typically use an AI to control the other characters. Let's be real... these AIs are bad. I mentioned Final Fantasy XIV above, and I'm constantly fighting against companion/summon AI in that game. There's a quest type in the game that requires you to pacify weakened creatures, and my Chocobo companion and any summon will continue to attack regardless of its state. When you pacify the creature, it goes neutral and stands in place, but can still be attacked. If you attack it enough, it drops out of pacify and attacks again... and you also lose credit for it. So, whenever I do these quests, I just put my Chocobo in Healer Stance and refuse to let him attack until I'm done. Fortunately, pets have a direct "attack" command, but without it, they'll still go back to the pacified mob. You also have to do duties (instanced quests) with NPCs that act as a role... usually healer. Sometimes, getting them to heal you feels like a lesson in futility. Long story short, based upon this, I prefer system that give me complete control over my entire party.
 

Stg-Flame

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If they count, I'll always replay Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 3/6, Star Ocean 2: The Second Story, etc.
 
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Aikouka - I felt the exact same way when I played FF13. They couldn't have made it anymore confusing with the whole l'cie and fal'cie crap. I do hate that in games.
 

A Casual Fitz

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I kind of want to play FFXV but even just screenshots of the characters are so cringe worthy. I'm 28 so I grew up playing some of the later FF games (7-10), Chrono Trigger, etc. I think the last couple I played were FFIX at age ~20 and Chrono Trigger DS at ~21, both of which I still quite liked and made it through.

I loved 10 when I played it in the early 2000s but pretty sure I'd be overcome with a desire to punch Tidus in the face if I played it now.
FFXV was refreshingly awesome. The characters are silly but when sh*t hits the fan in the story, it gets dark and serious fast. I grew up with 7-10 and was very pleasantly surprised with this one. Definitely my favorite since FFX.
 

KB

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Still like the Dragon Quest games, but do play them much less. They are simply too slow, make grinding a necessity. I prefer Fallout, Skyrim and Witcher style rpgs now.
 
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shortylickens

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Still like the Dragon Quest games, but do play them much less. They are simply too slow, make grinding a necessity. I prefer Fallout, Skyrim and Witcher style rpgs now.

Yeah I much prefer exploration over grinding. I've completed each Elder Scrolls title many many times. And Fallout and Baldurs Gate and Neverwinter Nights.

Some MMO's are alright. Rift is mostly exploration for the first part of the game. But when you hit level 60 it becomes a grindfest to acquire power so you can defeat waves of pointless mobs and super-bosses.

I keep wanting to try ESO but am afraid I'll get addicted.
 

jana519

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Still like the Dragon Quest games, but do play them much less. They are simply too slow, make grinding a necessity. I prefer Fallout, Skyrim and Witcher style rpgs now.

Fair point, the series of Dragon Quest games can be very slow.

I'm reaching the end of Dragon Quest 8. The story in the first half was good, you're chasing an evil magical jester who transformed the king and princess into a troll and horse ( with great artwork from Toriyama, he created really endearing characters). Then about halfway through, after finding Dhoulmagus, it switches from the original storyline to "go here, do this, find that" quests unrelated to the king or princess. To be fair, if they had ended the game after finding Dhoulmagus, it wouldn't have had nearly the amount of replay value it does now.
 

cmdrdredd

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FFXV was refreshingly awesome. The characters are silly but when sh*t hits the fan in the story, it gets dark and serious fast. I grew up with 7-10 and was very pleasantly surprised with this one. Definitely my favorite since FFX.

For what it's worth I found it to be fun to play. The combat was pretty fluid and it looked good. Some aspects could have been done better but it was better than the reviews and internet forums said it was IMO.
 

Aikouka

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For what it's worth I found it to be fun to play. The combat was pretty fluid and it looked good. Some aspects could have been done better but it was better than the reviews and internet forums said it was IMO.

How good is the AI? That's usually my biggest problem with squad-based combat in a real time combat system. I know the new Royal Edition (or the PC Edition) allows you to swap to different party members, which is kind of better. However, Ni no Kuni had that system, and I really didn't like it. I remember fighting a boss, and it was doing some AoE that I had to defend against, and it was super awkward to try to swap and switch the other character to defend. The new Ni no Kuni (that comes out in a week or two) is somewhat similar, but it seems to eschew the pet aspect.
 

DaveSimmons

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I like story-based RPGs in general, both Western (KOTOR 1-2, Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines, ...) and Japanese (Xenosaga, Persona 3-4, some FFs, ...)

I'm not much into the PS1 era 2D big heads on tiny bodies JRPGs, or the Toriyama kid-friendly Dragon Quests where you fight "poop snakes." I also tried playing FF 7 for the first time as an adult and the 10-polygon 3D characters made my eyes bleed. If they ever release the remake I might try that.

I'm not much into bromance either, so having brotastic broventures on the road with my bros in FF XV isn't on my to-play list.
 

renz20003

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I just started playing them in the last 3 years... I've played to completion ff vii and x