Do intel or amd have any share in the tablet market?

[Argo]

Looking at Intels decreased earning forecast I realized that I don't know of any popular tablets using their chipset. I am curious if they just ended up missing the boat or are there other reasons. If former - why no attempts to get into the market?

#random-thoughts

 

[slugg]

Intel said they'll be offering an x86 SoC based on the Atom. That's all I've heard, but my knowledge is outdated.

 

[Strk]

There are those MS slate tablets, but they're mostly all over $1k. There's an Acer one that is cheaper, but it's kind of crappy. Intel and AMD should do better when the Windows 8 PCs start coming out.

 

[MrX8503]

Intel can't simply take their CPU and scale it down for smartphones. Same goes for ARM not being to scale their SOCs up for desktop computers.

It's a huge undertaking for intel to create SOCs for smartphones. Intel has Medfield, which may be their break into the mobile market.

As for AMD, the don't have the grunt to enter such a market.

 

[Fox5]

There are some Wintel tablets. There's also some AMD based tablets, but they're not very popular.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Intel said they'll be offering an x86 SoC based on the Atom. That's all I've heard, but my knowledge is outdated.

we all know how badly atom performed on netbooks, its going to be just as bad in the tablet form factor. its going to be a while before anyone is interested in an intel tablet

 

[Lonyo]

There have been AMD and Intel tablets around for a long time (think years) running Windows 7 and older versions.
Windows 8 will result in a raft of new designs, both full "real" x86 processors, as well as Atom and probably Trinity. Expect to see a lot more designs in the next few months using Intel in particular.
Currently neither have significant marketshare or products, but that will likely change, mainly through convertible products (tablet+laptop).

The reason prior attempts have failed is because performance/battery life haven't been there, and the software hasn't been there. Prior Windows versions were mediocre at best when it came to being used for a tablet.

 

[podspi]

we all know how badly atom performed on netbooks, its going to be just as bad in the tablet form factor. its going to be a while before anyone is interested in an intel tablet

Have to agree on that. I wouldn't touch an Atom-based x86 tablet until the 22nm Atoms are out.

I'd consider an E-based APU, but I think I've only seen C-series so far. That also is too slow, imho.


At those speeds you might as well get a WinRT tablet, since the battery life will be better, and presumably WinRT will be super-optimized for slow processors.

 

[dagamer34]

Intel can't simply take their CPU and scale it down for smartphones. Same goes for ARM not being to scale their SOCs up for desktop computers.

It's a huge undertaking for intel to create SOCs for smartphones. Intel has Medfield, which may be their break into the mobile market.

As for AMD, the don't have the grunt to enter such a market.

If you could please point out to me where on a technical level Intel is failing with Medfield, I'd be happy to agree with you. Here's the AnandTech review of the Intel Lava Xolo Phone:

CPU performance: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/4
GPU performance: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/5
Battery life: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/6

Notice that Intel isn't at the extremes for each of those charts with bad performance or bad battery life. Granted, that doesn't mean there's an overwhelming reason to use them, but there's noting really going against them either. And we're talking about a CPU core architecture that's been the same since 2008, wait until you see what Intel cranks out for 2012.

I think you are making the same mistake AMD did in 2005 that Intel makes hot chips that could never fit the thermal profiles of the next few years, right before Intel just kicked their ass up and down the street with the Core Duo and especially the Core 2 Duo. Intel spends more money on R&D than any other chip company out there. It is never wise to bet against them.

 

[dagamer34]

we all know how badly atom performed on netbooks, its going to be just as bad in the tablet form factor. its going to be a while before anyone is interested in an intel tablet

I'd only make that statement after you actually see a Clover Trail tablet. What happens when Intel says you can get 9 hours of battery life in a tablet form factor? No one needs Core i5 performance when in tablet mode (if you do, you are living a fairy tale right now). They want the option to run x86 programs every once it a while. If it were a requirement, those people should get an ultrabook.

There is nothing CPU intensive about your average line of business app if its well written. And the designs for many of the Clover Trail tablets show that they will be competitive with their ARM brethren. I don't see how anyone can look at the HP Envy x2 and not see the future of the PC industry: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/30/3278326/hp-envy-x2-hands-on

 

[Puddle Jumper]

we all know how badly atom performed on netbooks, its going to be just as bad in the tablet form factor. its going to be a while before anyone is interested in an intel tablet

Atom is still as fast as the best ARM SoCs out there and should be very successful in the tablet market

 

[MrX8503]

If you could please point out to me where on a technical level Intel is failing with Medfield, I'd be happy to agree with you. Here's the AnandTech review of the Intel Lava Xolo Phone:

CPU performance: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/4
GPU performance: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/5
Battery life: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/6

Notice that Intel isn't at the extremes for each of those charts with bad performance or bad battery life. Granted, that doesn't mean there's an overwhelming reason to use them, but there's noting really going against them either. And we're talking about a CPU core architecture that's been the same since 2008, wait until you see what Intel cranks out for 2012.

I think you are making the same mistake AMD did in 2005 that Intel makes hot chips that could never fit the thermal profiles of the next few years, right before Intel just kicked their ass up and down the street with the Core Duo and especially the Core 2 Duo. Intel spends more money on R&D than any other chip company out there. It is never wise to bet against them.

I never said Medfield is failing. I said that Medfield may be their break into the smartphone market.

 

[Deeko]

Windows 8 tablets like the Surface Pro will be powered by x86. Quite a few OEMs have announced tablets or convertible laptops for the Win8 launch this fall.