do i need to worry?

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pontifex

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The recruiting agency needed me to send them a notarized copy of my driver's license and social security card and a filled out I-9 form. I sent it USPS last Tuesday. They still have not received it. I had to overnight the same documents again today.


Should I worry that someone out there potentially has those documents when they shouldn't?
 

SacrosanctFiend

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I'd be more concerned about a recruiting agency that told you what documents to provide (actually, I'd be equally concerned).
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd be more concerned about a recruiting agency that told you what documents to provide (actually, I'd be equally concerned).

:confused:
it's part of the I-9 form. you need to provide 2 forms of ID. there is a list of acceptable forms of ID that you can send and those were the 2 i had readily available (maybe even the only ones available (from the list)).
 

Crusty

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Isn't that stuff all for the company actually hiring you and NOT the agency?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Crusty
Isn't that stuff all for the company actually hiring you and NOT the agency?

i'm an employee of the agency for the duration of the contract but i'll be working at the client site and for the client.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Crusty
Isn't that stuff all for the company actually hiring you and NOT the agency?

Recruiting agency = does all the work to make sure you're eligible for empoyment
Also may be a temp agency, in which case they ARE the company actually hiring him

[edit] Called it!

And yeah, you might be in hot water.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: Crusty
Isn't that stuff all for the company actually hiring you and NOT the agency?

Recruiting agency = does all the work to make sure you're eligible for empoyment
Also may be a temp agency, in which case they ARE the company actually hiring him

yes, exactly.
 

imported_Imp

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That's funny, my temp agency only took a look at my social. I had to write the number down, but my 'caseworker' only took a brief look, had me sign that she did, and it never left my hand. Depends on the place I guess.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: Crusty
Isn't that stuff all for the company actually hiring you and NOT the agency?

Recruiting agency = does all the work to make sure you're eligible for empoyment
Also may be a temp agency, in which case they ARE the company actually hiring him

[edit] Called it!

And yeah, you might be in hot water.

is there anything i can do as far as protecting myself from anything?
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd be more concerned about a recruiting agency that told you what documents to provide (actually, I'd be equally concerned).

:confused:
it's part of the I-9 form. you need to provide 2 forms of ID. there is a list of acceptable forms of ID that you can send and those were the 2 i had readily available (maybe even the only ones available (from the list)).

Um, I know the I-9 form. You made it sound like they requested specific ID, which is against the law.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd be more concerned about a recruiting agency that told you what documents to provide (actually, I'd be equally concerned).

:confused:
it's part of the I-9 form. you need to provide 2 forms of ID. there is a list of acceptable forms of ID that you can send and those were the 2 i had readily available (maybe even the only ones available (from the list)).

Um, I know the I-9 form. You made it sound like they requested specific ID, which is against the law.

i'm still not quite following you.

you thought they told me i had to specifically send them copies of my driver's license and social security card or are you saying that they shouldn't require any of that to be sent?

the documentation with the i-9 form says that you have to provide 2 forms of id - driver's license, passport, social security, and a few others were valid id.

i chose to use driver's license and SS card.

All of the people in my training class for this job were hired through the same agency and had to send in ID also. I am actually working (well, training atm) at the client site, so it's not a scam. the client site has been around for 20 years or so, so that's legit as well.


edit: bah, after i typed all of that out, i see what you mean. i did make it sound like they requested those specific forms of id. sorry.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd be more concerned about a recruiting agency that told you what documents to provide (actually, I'd be equally concerned).

:confused:
it's part of the I-9 form. you need to provide 2 forms of ID. there is a list of acceptable forms of ID that you can send and those were the 2 i had readily available (maybe even the only ones available (from the list)).

Um, I know the I-9 form. You made it sound like they requested specific ID, which is against the law.

i'm still not quite following you.

you thought they told me i had to specifically send them copies of my driver's license and social security card or are you saying that they shouldn't require any of that to be sent?

the documentation with the i-9 form says that you have to provide 2 forms of id - driver's license, passport, social security, and a few others were valid id.

i chose to use driver's license and SS card.

All of the people in my training class for this job were hired through the same agency and had to send in ID also. I am actually working (well, training atm) at the client site, so it's not a scam. the client site has been around for 20 years or so, so that's legit as well.


edit: bah, after i typed all of that out, i see what you mean. i did make it sound like they requested those specific forms of id. sorry.

;) Sometimes meaning is lost in typed words.
 

pontifex

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well, i called the recruiter today to see if the documents i over nighted yesterday got there and they did. she said not 15 minutes after she got those, the original ones I sent showed up also. so now i don't have to worry that someone else has them, but i wasted all that time yesterday getting everything re-done during my lunch break.
 

BoomerD

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I'm surprised that sending copies of your documents is legal for I-9 purposes.

The person who signs off on them is supposed to see the originals.

GREAT way to commit fraud...send in phony ID for the I-9...

(not saying the OP is doing wrong, just the concept)

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-9.pdf
"Employers must sign and date the certification. Employees must present original documents."
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'm surprised that sending copies of your documents is legal for I-9 purposes.

The person who signs off on them is supposed to see the originals.

GREAT way to commit fraud...send in phony ID for the I-9...

(not saying the OP is doing wrong, just the concept)

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-9.pdf
"Employers must sign and date the certification. Employees must present original documents."

it has to be notarized, i think that's how they get around it. i doubt a notary would notarize the copy of id from someone who doesn't even look like the person in the id.
 
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