Do I need 120hz, and what LCD to buy?

[Obsoleet]

I don't watch much tv, this is mostly for appletv and someday blurays. A wii and also an antennae will be hooked up to it. Videos will be streamed from my PC thru the appletv too.

I was originally set on the 47" westinghouse because the picture quality is fine and its cheap. My main concern is do I need 120hz, I hate to buy something that isn't "the complete product" and then regret not getting it later on.

these are the two I'm looking at so far-

http://www.jr.com/lc52d64u-52-...s-lcd/pe/SHA_LC52D64U/

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-...&qid=1214060501&sr=8-1

i think they both look like good deals. i just don't quite understand the 120hz thing or if it's needed. my understanding is that its a multiple of dvd/bluray's framerate and of terrestrial signals as well, so its the best compromise refresh rate.. at least better than 60hz. manufacturers seem to push it enough that it must be a part of the future so i'm inclined to get the 46" 120hz panel over the 52" 60hz..

 

[Obsoleet]

No one has any opinions? This is almost the first time on the internet that's happened.

 

[BassBomb]

d64 is not a good deal

samsung is much better panel

 

[Obsoleet]

ok thank you. i thought Aquos was the top of the line, must be the marketing.

 

[Obsoleet]

opinions on the 7 series? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0014175OI?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: Obsoleet
ok thank you. i thought Aquos was the top of the line, must be the marketing.

AQUOS is a product line, 64U model is not high end it is a replacement of 62U which was from last year and the same panel

now if you get into the 82 or 92 then they are pretty good but expensive

Samsung 750 would be a great TV

 

[aznconfused]

I bought the Samsung 650 in a 52" a month ago. The 120hz does make a difference (at least to me...a movie buff). To the untrained eye it doesn't. I invited over a dozen of my friends to watch the difference between 60hz and 120hz and only ONE person noticed the difference (an avid gamer). The fast action scenes are SO smooth! Samsung really outdid themselves with this tv (esp. as it was heavily discounted a few weeks ago). Watch blu-ray movies with scenes involving fireworks and explosions and if you have a good eye you will be able to tell the difference. All the characters seem to come out of the tv screen as if 3D. In 60hz everything seems to blend in with the background. Word of advice....120hz takes a bit getting used to as you get so used to watching movies a certain way. And if you can't still notice the difference with movies, just pop in a ps3 game and switch the 120hz on and off and then you WILL be able to notice the smoothness (like GTA IV).

 

[Obsoleet]

I'm thinking of getting the 52". The money isn't a concern it's mainly how much I'll use it before I replace it someday. The 46" might be fine for my uses (AppleTV, Wii, streaming movies from PC).. I'm getting bluray once the players are $99 at walmart. I'm an online content fan, had enough of the discs!

 

[Check]

I thought that HD was capped at 60FPS anyway, so does it really make that much of a difference? I may be wrong about this though.

edit:
also, I completely missed this one, but refresh rate? Are they converting the response time to a rate or something? I suppose if you had a panel with an 8ms response time you could say that a frame is being drawn every 8ms and therefore you would be getting 125 frames or 125Hz... (1second = 1000ms, 1000ms/8ms = 125)

 

[Obsoleet]

Theres plenty of info on google regarding this subject. But I've pretty much decided on the Samsung 120hz panels. Either a 6 series or 7 series, 46 or 52 inch.
Probably either the 6 series 52inch, or the 7 series 46inch. The 52inch is what I've mainly got my eye on, because my bud has a 46" sony and it starts to look small really fast.

 

[aznconfused]

Word of caution. the 650 series has a few tvs that are defective. Mine happened to be one of them. Apparently a few of the 650s have a problem with the tv turning off by itself. At first I thought it was because I was using too much electricity in the tv room but then it started happening even when only the TV was turned on. Also, sometimes the tv would lose picture for a half-second and make a sound. The following models are affected:
? LN40A650A1F
? LN46A650A1F
? LN52A650A1F
There is a firmware update to solve the problem but instead of updating I requested a free replacement from BB because I had bought the extended warranty from them. Should arrive in the upcoming weeks. So I would suggest you purchase a 750 series in a 52" seeing as you said price was not an issue. If you're gonna upgrade to a BIG screen tv, you might as well shell out the extra dough for a 52". The 52" makes my roommate's 47" Vizio look small. The blacks are truer and the 120hz makes a huge difference in video games and in movies. Can't say it will make a huge difference in Wii games or streamed movies though. Definitely for PS3 games and Blu-ray movies! Hope this helps.

 

[krotchy]

The restarting problem is 100% solved by a firmware update. aznconfused making best buy return the TV over a fixed issue is so ridiculous its not even funny. This issue was fixed within a couple of weeks of the TV and 100% a firmware problem and not at all a panel problem, I don't know why its even brought up except to mention that you should download a new firmware if it happens to you.

The 650 and 750 are identical with a few feature additions to the 750:
Adds a woofer for improved sound quality.
Adds 1GB of on board flash storage for storing pictures and whatnot, improved network features.
Different bezel shape (more rectangular)
"DLNA-Capable" which I think means it can work with Sony's IR over HDMI scheme, but who knows honestly what this one does.

Aside from that they are identical, so decide if those features are worth the price increase to pick between the 6 and 7.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: krotchy
"DLNA-Capable" which I think means it can work with Sony's IR over HDMI scheme, but who knows honestly what this one does.

DLNA is a variant of UPnP for streaming media (in this case, I would assume pictures and music). What you were referencing (IR over HDMI) is actually HDMI-CEC (and it has nothing to do with IR over HDMI, totally different method of control).

As for "do you need 120hz?", I would say no. I have it, and it helps, but it's not the end-all be-all of features, unless you're particularly sensitive to 3:2 pull-down judder.