Do I have a valid case for small claims court?

ItTheCow

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Brief synopsis: Neighbor hits car 3 months ago, causing $1800 in damages. No police/insurance was involved. Neighbor made promise to pay me. To this day, I've only received $200 with no idea when I'll get the rest.

Question: Since I don't trust this guy at all and since he's being very rude throughout the ordeal, I'm going to assume I'll need to bring him to small claims court to spur him into action. Apparently he spoke with a lawyer who said that I have no case since no police were ever involved. Nonetheless this is a civil matter, and he did damage my property, so I do have a valid case (right?). So the only problem is whether I'd be able to convince the judge to rule in my favor, right?

Edit: Clarification of questions/comments raised:

1) I've exchanged numerous emails with him, and I have one recorded message from him on an answering machine. I do not recall him explicitly saying "This is _____, and I hit your car on December 29," but I do believe there is enough support to prove that he did hit my car.

2) The initial $200 payment was a check. It has been deposited (though not necessarily cleared), and I do have a photocopy of it.

3) Yes, I was trying to be neighborly, and he exploited it. I'll agree with everyone that I'm an idiot in not involving the police.

4) My claim is under the state maximum for small claims court.

5) There were several witnesses (his 2-3 friends in his SUV). I should also state that this happened when my car was parked. He managed to back up into my car. Like the idiot I am, I didn't get their contact information either. This happened as I was in my living room watching tv. I went outside and he identified himself as my neighbor, said he hit my car, and gave me his business card.

6) I don't know what's the status of his car. The other person hasn't been very good at keeping open lines of communication. I do not have physical proof that he actually hit my car. By the time I had realized I had my camera, he had already left, so all I could do was photograph the damage of my car.

7) A couple days after the accident, I went to two body shops to get repair estimates. I still have the written estimates.

8) The total damages were actually upwards of $2100. We agreed to settle at $1800, and I have the email stating our agreement. If I were to go to court, would it be possible to renege and ask for _full_ damages?

The reason I asked this question in the first place is that, in an email, he said he spoke with a lawyer who said that I wouldn't have a case at all since no police were involved. I'll try to consult someone vested in these matters, but I'm not sure if he's bluffing or not. This guy has dragged this issue out for 3 months already, and he's only told me that he'd make several installments "as big and often as possible to take care of this asap." I don't exactly trust him to keep his word, so I'm thinking it may become necessary to get an order to garnish his wages.

Here's pictures of my car, before and after:(

 

notfred

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All he has to do in court is say "I didn't hit his car. I don't know who did, but it wasn't me."

Unless you can show otherwise, you'll have wasted your time.
 

wvtalbot

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Really dumb not to get insurance involved with $1800 in damage, in most states you are REQUIRED to call the police when damage is over a certain amount. (I think it is $300 in my state)
 

BW86

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Originally posted by: ItTheCow
Brief synopsis: Neighbor hits car 3 months ago, causing $1800 in damages. No police/insurance was involved. Neighbor made promise to pay me. To this day, I've only received $200 with no idea when I'll get the rest.

:Q

Your not getting a dime.
 

Drakkon

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unless you have him on tape/paper your wasting your money going after him in court. unless you get him in one of thse judge judy type shows and he is an ass on the show, then they will make him loose :D
 

BrianH1

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maybe you can hide a voice recorder in your jacket, go over to his house, and ask him about it. Then, try to get him saying "im sorry i hit it but blah blah blah" . bingo. maybe so maybe not.
 

mugs

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1. Try to get proof that he admits fault.
2. Did he give you cash or a check for the $200?
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: BrianH1
maybe you can hide a voice recorder in your jacket, go over to his house, and ask him about it. Then, try to get him saying "im sorry i hit it but blah blah blah" . bingo. maybe so maybe not.
Won't hold up in court.
 

kranky

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I don't agree you're wasting your time. If his defense is going to be that he didn't hit your car, then how would he explain why he gave you $200?
 

TheNinja

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It sucks nowadays b/c you want to give the guy a break and not get his insurance involved if he is willing to pay out of pocket. But there are too many people willing to screw you over that you can't take anybody's word anymore so you have to get the cops and insurance involved. I'm not a lawyer so you may be able to at least try and get some money if the judge believes you and not him but I think you learned your lesson for next time too.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: notfred
All he has to do in court is say "I didn't hit his car. I don't know who did, but it wasn't me."

Unless you can show otherwise, you'll have wasted your time.
The biggest clue here is that $200 WAS paid. It is hard to honestly say "it wasn't me, but here is $200 just for the heck of it" in court.

I think you have a case, just from watching Judge Judy. Of course, I don't know your state's laws.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: mugs
1. Try to get proof that he admits fault.
2. Did he give you cash or a check for the $200?

Yeah, if he gave you a check, that may be enough to get some more money. If not, slash his tires monthly. :p
 

Baked

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How did he sweet talk you outta not calling the police? You don't have insurance?
 

Kelemvor

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I'd wire yourself up and go confront him. Say stuff to try to get him to admit he hit your car and knows he did. That might at least give you something to go off of.
 

iamtrout

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Kill him. Get a license for a suppressed firearm, buy one, knock on his door one night and pop a few into his skull when he opens the door.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: ItTheCow
Brief synopsis: Neighbor hits car 3 months ago, causing $1800 in damages. No police/insurance was involved. Neighbor made promise to pay me. To this day, I've only received $200 with no idea when I'll get the rest.

Question: Since I don't trust this guy at all and since he's being very rude throughout the ordeal, I'm going to assume I'll need to bring him to small claims court to spur him into action. Apparently he spoke with a lawyer who said that I have no case since no police were ever involved. Nonetheless this is a civil matter, and he did damage my property, so I do have a valid case (right?). So the only problem is whether I'd be able to convince the judge to rule in my favor, right?

Okay, please don't take this the wrong way... I mean, you probably were just trying to be neighborly... BUT: you were a fool for not filing a police report. Your neighbor is a JACKASS for exploiting it.

The best thing you could do at this point, IMHO, is to file the report. I don't know if they will let you based on the time elapsed, but I would try. If you go to small claims, I doubt the judge would hear the case after you tell him there's no police report.

[edit]

I think people are making a good point about the $200. If you can prove he paid you $200, that would go a long way.

[edit 2]

... and you definitely need to slash his tires.
 

fitzov

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Sure you can. You might want to find out what constitutes a "small" claim, though. The amount might be too high for the court. Not calling the police does not void your property rights. You'll need a copy of the damage estimate. You might also consider asking neighbors to be witnesses. Of course, the judge is going to ask you why you didn't go through your insurance company--just tell him/her that since you were not at fault you didn't think there was a need to contact them.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: ItTheCow
Brief synopsis: Neighbor hits car 3 months ago, causing $1800 in damages. No police/insurance was involved. Neighbor made promise to pay me. To this day, I've only received $200 with no idea when I'll get the rest.

Question: Since I don't trust this guy at all and since he's being very rude throughout the ordeal, I'm going to assume I'll need to bring him to small claims court to spur him into action. Apparently he spoke with a lawyer who said that I have no case since no police were ever involved. Nonetheless this is a civil matter, and he did damage my property, so I do have a valid case (right?). So the only problem is whether I'd be able to convince the judge to rule in my favor, right?

I'd guess you have a decent chance. First of all, you're talking civil, not criminal, court. To win, all you have to do is make a better case than the other guy. If he doesn't even show (happens a fair bit), you'd win in a slam-dunk. Second, even if he does show, do you really suspect he'd deny causing the damage? He'd have to have some serious guts to lie under oath - that's probably a criminal offense in your state. I'd be willing to bet once you called his bluff and hauled him into court, he'd fold and admit responsibility.

If not, do you have any witnesses who saw the accident, or heard him admit fault? As already noted, the fact he's already paid you $200 strongly suggests he knows he's at fault. The second thing you'd have to prove is damages - specifically, how did you arrive at that $1800 figure? Got an estimate? Bring it in. Otherwise, get one. Really, I think your case is strong, and I'd pursue it. See what the damage limit is for small claims court in your jurisdiction. Good luck.
 

Phoenix86

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Umm, folks. The police will NOT come to all accidents, espcially ones w/o injury.

Were there any witnesses?
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Umm, folks. The police will NOT come to all accidents, espcially ones w/o injury.

True, but the law in many states does require that the parties involved fill out certain forms if the damage is above $XXX. As this is a state law matter, individual states will vary.
 

destrekor

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i definitly agree, keep at him with violence of some sort.. slashing tires might get him out of paying you money, as he'll treat as you are trying to pay him back and any money he has will go into tire repair versus paying you back.
be thankful you got $200 though.
 
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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: BrianH1
maybe you can hide a voice recorder in your jacket, go over to his house, and ask him about it. Then, try to get him saying "im sorry i hit it but blah blah blah" . bingo. maybe so maybe not.
Won't hold up in court.

Not necessarily. It may be admissable as a prior inconsistent statement of a party opponent. It may be admissable for the purpose of inpeaching credibility.