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Viper1j

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Black Republicans Are Sad Because They’ve Been Excluded From Trump’s 2nd Term Cabinet Picks​

But if they complain, they don't sound very conservative.

The cognitive dissonance required to be a Black member of the GOP in today’s political climate looks to me like a domestic violence victim who stays with their abuser. “People just don’t understand, they love us” they seem to be saying.

There are a number of Black Republicans, and most of them seem to have one thing in common: They’re wealthy. Their politics is defined by an almost libertarian-like stance of “I got mine, so screw everyone else.” That, of course, is to the detriment of other Black people, who largely are better served by liberal democratic policies.


That has been the case since the two parties “switched sides” during the Civil Rights era. What began as a gradual shift under FDR took a final, dynamic turn for Black voters toward the Democrats when they heard the 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater argue that the Civil Rights Act of that year would constitute federal overreach.

But there are remnants of the laissez-faire conservativism that caused Republican business owners from the party of Lincoln to switch. And they seem blissfully unaware of — or unconcerned with — the fact that their party has at its head a man who wouldn’t have rented them an apartment 50 years ago.


With the exception of North Carolina’s failed gubernatorial candidate, Mark Robinson, who once referred to himself as a Black Nazi on a pornography website, most Black Republicans seem either cognitively dissonant or very, very selfish. I’m not sure what’s wrong with that guy.

In any case, one has to imagine that Black Republicans, in return for their loyalty to a party that doesn’t actually care for anything about them except their money, might expect to be rewarded with political favors when their support helps Republicans win races. In other words, there’s no real “I got mine” inside the party for them.


Cabinet picks would have been one way for Donald Trump to show his appreciation, and they just have not been forthcoming.

Oh, there’s the standard Housing and Urban Development post that goes to a Black nominee every time. Trump has nominated Scott Turner this time around — a (rich) former NFL player. He appointed Dr. Ben Carson last time he was president. I’m convinced that Republicans want to give Black people jobs, but can only bring themselves to nominate them for this position because it contains the word “urban.”


Why do I think that? Well, because of every Republican candidate who’s ever run, no president has ever traded so much on the support they’ve gotten from Black people, who don’t normally support their party. Trump has said on numerous occasions that no president but Lincoln has done more for Black people than him, and suggested he’s actually done MORE than Lincoln.

And yet Turner is the literal sole Black person Trump has nominated. It echoes his first term, when Carson was the only Black person to work for him.


The Republicans spent so long denigrating the “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion” movement that they literally called everyone in the Biden administration who wasn’t a straight white Christian male a “DEI hire” and claimed they were otherwise unqualified outside the fact that they came from a traditionally marginalized group.

One anonymous Black lawmaker told Black Enterprise magazine, “Why is every Black person given HUD?” while another lamented that “I can’t tweet that we need more Black conservatives because the left will attack me saying it’s a DEI hire.”


I mean, that’s classic Republican projection right there — zero Democrats are going to attack Republicans for hiring more Black people.

But I can’t help but wonder if the growing outrage among the Black community about being largely snubbed by Donald Trump has something to do with the fact that he doesn’t seem to care about being seen making “DEI hires” so far — just not Black candidates. Marco Rubio is set to be the first Latino Secretary of State, Scott Bessent would be the first openly gay Treasury Secretary, Tulsi Gabbard would be the first Asian-American intelligence director, and the list doesn’t even stop there.


A Hispanic Labor secretary, an Indian-American FBI director, and more round out what looks increasingly like a DEI Cabinet — except for Black people.


It certainly lends credence to all the stories of Trump’s racist family history and personal racism. His father was among 400 KKK members arrested at a Memorial Day parade they infiltrated in 1927. Trump himself, aside from the legend of the Department of Justice’s 1974 redlining lawsuit against him, was notorious for making his casino bosses see to it there were no Black employees to be seen on the casino floor when he’d come through with his first wife.

I would advise Black politicians not to hold their breath for Trump to change.

 
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hal2kilo

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Not even a little. Karma will not be kind to them.


Black Republicans Are Sad Because They’ve Been Excluded From Trump’s 2nd Term Cabinet Picks​

But if they complain, they don't sound very conservative.

The cognitive dissonance required to be a Black member of the GOP in today’s political climate looks to me like a domestic violence victim who stays with their abuser. “People just don’t understand, they love us” they seem to be saying.

There are a number of Black Republicans, and most of them seem to have one thing in common: They’re wealthy. Their politics is defined by an almost libertarian-like stance of “I got mine, so screw everyone else.” That, of course, is to the detriment of other Black people, who largely are better served by liberal democratic policies.


That has been the case since the two parties “switched sides” during the Civil Rights era. What began as a gradual shift under FDR took a final, dynamic turn for Black voters toward the Democrats when they heard the 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater argue that the Civil Rights Act of that year would constitute federal overreach.

But there are remnants of the laissez-faire conservativism that caused Republican business owners from the party of Lincoln to switch. And they seem blissfully unaware of — or unconcerned with — the fact that their party has at its head a man who wouldn’t have rented them an apartment 50 years ago.


With the exception of North Carolina’s failed gubernatorial candidate, Mark Robinson, who once referred to himself as a Black Nazi on a pornography website, most Black Republicans seem either cognitively dissonant or very, very selfish. I’m not sure what’s wrong with that guy.

In any case, one has to imagine that Black Republicans, in return for their loyalty to a party that doesn’t actually care for anything about them except their money, might expect to be rewarded with political favors when their support helps Republicans win races. In other words, there’s no real “I got mine” inside the party for them.


Cabinet picks would have been one way for Donald Trump to show his appreciation, and they just have not been forthcoming.

Oh, there’s the standard Housing and Urban Development post that goes to a Black nominee every time. Trump has nominated Scott Turner this time around — a (rich) former NFL player. He appointed Dr. Ben Carson last time he was president. I’m convinced that Republicans want to give Black people jobs, but can only bring themselves to nominate them for this position because it contains the word “urban.”


Why do I think that? Well, because of every Republican candidate who’s ever run, no president has ever traded so much on the support they’ve gotten from Black people, who don’t normally support their party. Trump has said on numerous occasions that no president but Lincoln has done more for Black people than him, and suggested he’s actually done MORE than Lincoln.

And yet Turner is the literal sole Black person Trump has nominated. It echoes his first term, when Carson was the only Black person to work for him.


The Republicans spent so long denigrating the “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion” movement that they literally called everyone in the Biden administration who wasn’t a straight white Christian male a “DEI hire” and claimed they were otherwise unqualified outside the fact that they came from a traditionally marginalized group.

One anonymous Black lawmaker told Black Enterprise magazine, “Why is every Black person given HUD?” while another lamented that “I can’t tweet that we need more Black conservatives because the left will attack me saying it’s a DEI hire.”


I mean, that’s classic Republican projection right there — zero Democrats are going to attack Republicans for hiring more Black people.

But I can’t help but wonder if the growing outrage among the Black community about being largely snubbed by Donald Trump has something to do with the fact that he doesn’t seem to care about being seen making “DEI hires” so far — just not Black candidates. Marco Rubio is set to be the first Latino Secretary of State, Scott Bessent would be the first openly gay Treasury Secretary, Tulsi Gabbard would be the first Asian-American intelligence director, and the list doesn’t even stop there.


A Hispanic Labor secretary, an Indian-American FBI director, and more round out what looks increasingly like a DEI Cabinet — except for Black people.


It certainly lends credence to all the stories of Trump’s racist family history and personal racism. His father was among 400 KKK members arrested at a Memorial Day parade they infiltrated in 1927. Trump himself, aside from the legend of the Department of Justice’s 1974 redlining lawsuit against him, was notorious for making his casino bosses see to it there were no Black employees to be seen on the casino floor when he’d come through with his first wife.

I would advise Black politicians not to hold their breath for Trump to change.

People are surprised by this?
 

Moonbeam

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Stockholm Syndrome is a bitch. You can't escape racial stigmatization by pretending to act white when your skin color screams otherwise.

Once a person internalizes racism and has one's self respect ruined by it the only way back is to heal from the psychic damage created by it.

There is no such thing as race and Black people surrounded by nothing but Black people in Africa know nothing about supposedly being inferior as a people. That is a disease White people who hate themselves and are looking to dump that hate anywhere but on whom it is really felt look for someone who is somehow different. It can be race as in skin color. It can be how you dress, what you eat, who you worship, just anything at all. Everyone who hates himself and will not see it is in one way or another some kind of bigot. Nobody hates anyone who has not first learned what hate is by being hated him or her self.

It is no wonder people are surprised by this because it's the last thing they want to understand. And even being told here, you still won't hear it.
 

esquared

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Black Republicans Are Sad Because They’ve Been Excluded From Trump’s 2nd Term Cabinet Picks​

But if they complain, they don't sound very conservative.

The cognitive dissonance required to be a Black member of the GOP in today’s political climate looks to me like a domestic violence victim who stays with their abuser. “People just don’t understand, they love us” they seem to be saying.

There are a number of Black Republicans, and most of them seem to have one thing in common: They’re wealthy. Their politics is defined by an almost libertarian-like stance of “I got mine, so screw everyone else.” That, of course, is to the detriment of other Black people, who largely are better served by liberal democratic policies.


That has been the case since the two parties “switched sides” during the Civil Rights era. What began as a gradual shift under FDR took a final, dynamic turn for Black voters toward the Democrats when they heard the 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater argue that the Civil Rights Act of that year would constitute federal overreach.

But there are remnants of the laissez-faire conservativism that caused Republican business owners from the party of Lincoln to switch. And they seem blissfully unaware of — or unconcerned with — the fact that their party has at its head a man who wouldn’t have rented them an apartment 50 years ago.


With the exception of North Carolina’s failed gubernatorial candidate, Mark Robinson, who once referred to himself as a Black Nazi on a pornography website, most Black Republicans seem either cognitively dissonant or very, very selfish. I’m not sure what’s wrong with that guy.

In any case, one has to imagine that Black Republicans, in return for their loyalty to a party that doesn’t actually care for anything about them except their money, might expect to be rewarded with political favors when their support helps Republicans win races. In other words, there’s no real “I got mine” inside the party for them.


Cabinet picks would have been one way for Donald Trump to show his appreciation, and they just have not been forthcoming.

Oh, there’s the standard Housing and Urban Development post that goes to a Black nominee every time. Trump has nominated Scott Turner this time around — a (rich) former NFL player. He appointed Dr. Ben Carson last time he was president. I’m convinced that Republicans want to give Black people jobs, but can only bring themselves to nominate them for this position because it contains the word “urban.”


Why do I think that? Well, because of every Republican candidate who’s ever run, no president has ever traded so much on the support they’ve gotten from Black people, who don’t normally support their party. Trump has said on numerous occasions that no president but Lincoln has done more for Black people than him, and suggested he’s actually done MORE than Lincoln.

And yet Turner is the literal sole Black person Trump has nominated. It echoes his first term, when Carson was the only Black person to work for him.


The Republicans spent so long denigrating the “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion” movement that they literally called everyone in the Biden administration who wasn’t a straight white Christian male a “DEI hire” and claimed they were otherwise unqualified outside the fact that they came from a traditionally marginalized group.

One anonymous Black lawmaker told Black Enterprise magazine, “Why is every Black person given HUD?” while another lamented that “I can’t tweet that we need more Black conservatives because the left will attack me saying it’s a DEI hire.”


I mean, that’s classic Republican projection right there — zero Democrats are going to attack Republicans for hiring more Black people.

But I can’t help but wonder if the growing outrage among the Black community about being largely snubbed by Donald Trump has something to do with the fact that he doesn’t seem to care about being seen making “DEI hires” so far — just not Black candidates. Marco Rubio is set to be the first Latino Secretary of State, Scott Bessent would be the first openly gay Treasury Secretary, Tulsi Gabbard would be the first Asian-American intelligence director, and the list doesn’t even stop there.


A Hispanic Labor secretary, an Indian-American FBI director, and more round out what looks increasingly like a DEI Cabinet — except for Black people.


It certainly lends credence to all the stories of Trump’s racist family history and personal racism. His father was among 400 KKK members arrested at a Memorial Day parade they infiltrated in 1927. Trump himself, aside from the legend of the Department of Justice’s 1974 redlining lawsuit against him, was notorious for making his casino bosses see to it there were no Black employees to be seen on the casino floor when he’d come through with his first wife.

I would advise Black politicians not to hold their breath for Trump to change.

That dancing with the Trump flag and his picture is embarrassing.
 

Pens1566

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"I hope they get everything they voted for" - me

Well, guess what? They got it. They got it good and hard. And that'll continue for the rest of his administration.
 
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akugami

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"I hope they get everything they voted for" - me

Well, guess what? They got it. They got it good and hard. And that'll continue for the rest of his administration.

Not specifically related to black Trump voters, but I've said something similar. That I hope every moron who voted for Trump and the current republican party gets everything they voted for. I'm not mad anymore. I just want you to get exactly what you voted for.

Things like 20% to 60% tariffs on imports. Removal of abortion rights and health services for women in general, especially in poor rural areas. I have no more sympathy for you abortion hating Texass morons. Removal of social benefits for the poor for some idiot in Hicksville Mississippi. The morons in school who voted for Trump can get bent selling blood to pay off student loans. And so much other crap.

If you voted for the GQP, I hope you get everything you voted for.
 

Sunburn74

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This story is a microcosm of what's to come. Lots and lots of regrets in the future. Wall Street is elated right now about Trump. Then tarriffs and other economic bungling will hit and then we'll see how happy they are. Same for conservatives in poor rural places. Happy now. Then Medicaid and SS and many other social programs get cut and we'll see how happy you are then.

I personally have stopped giving a F. You can't save some people. Just turns out it's like 40% of the country lol
 
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