Rice bikes and Harleys are both loud. I've got beef with both. First with the ricers who blow past my house at 3am. You may say the jap bikes aren't loud, but when the suckers are redlined, they're loud enough to wake me in my house which is a pretty good distance from the road. As for the bikers, at least they sleep at night. But like it's been said before, the majority of Harley riders are these 40 something, mid life crisis, accountants, lawyers etc trying to cultivate the bad boy biker image. I'm bad if I wear black leather and ride a Harley. Around here we call them RUBs(Rich Urban Bikers). Personally I think that's pretty lame. But what's even worse is that Harley Davidson has realized this market and their prices have grown to reflect this. Now adays these RUBs are the only ones that can afford Harleys. It's done away with the Hells Angels and Easy Riders out there. They gotta compete with the Jap bike companies somehow though right?