Do children have the same Freedom of Speech rights as adults?

CPA

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Well not according to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Well, at least not in a school setting per the decision, and personally, I think it was the right decision.

I know in my household, my kids (all 9 and under) don't live in a Democracy, they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship. Otherwise, they would vote to have ice cream for dinner every night :Q:)
 

CPA

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ahhh, noone cares? I thought this was an interesting court case.
 

Anubis

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not untill their 18. and even then if they are in a privite instituation like a school. they can get fuked

i tried to pull that free speech thing in HS and it got me suspended for a week. BASTARDS!!!!

if you wanna know why. it was because i had a Bar Religion T-Shirt. and for thoes of you that know teh band you know that their symbol looks like this one. I put up a stink sayin it was my right to ware it because it was just a band T shirt. well apperently it offended peopel. so i tossed out that I was an Atheist. cause I am. and I was supporting my belief. and I said that someone wareing a cross pendent or earings offended me so they shouledent be allowed to ware them either.

well they didnt like that at all
 

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Not until they show that they can control that speech ( over 15) in my mom's house. I don't have any kids so I'm not sure when it will be in my home.
 

Eli

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I disagree with the ruling and the tone of the article in general.

"An eight- or nine-year-old child might not be able to resist the peer pressure to sign a petition and thus might do so even if the petition advocates a position with which he or she does not agree. In any event, a child of such age should not be confronted with having to make the choice to sign or not sign," Greenberg wrote.

Bullsh!t.
 

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Originally posted by: Eli
I disagree with the ruling and the tone of the article in general.

"An eight- or nine-year-old child might not be able to resist the peer pressure to sign a petition and thus might do so even if the petition advocates a position with which he or she does not agree. In any event, a child of such age should not be confronted with having to make the choice to sign or not sign," Greenberg wrote.

Bullsh!t.


I can tell you, without a doubt, my 9 year old boy would sign something like that, just because it would look cool. He wouldn't have a fricken clue what it was about, just that it was something that had to do with animals and a girl asked him to sign it.

 

Bushwicktrini

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Originally posted by: Eli
I disagree with the ruling and the tone of the article in general.

"An eight- or nine-year-old child might not be able to resist the peer pressure to sign a petition and thus might do so even if the petition advocates a position with which he or she does not agree. In any event, a child of such age should not be confronted with having to make the choice to sign or not sign," Greenberg wrote.

Bullsh!t.

I don't think it that much Bull, my ten year old neice is a has yet to show me that she has any backbone at all when it comes to her friends I just had to ground her last weekend because of her doing what her friends wanted and not what she was suppose to do.
 

Anubis

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O and about this. I diossagree with it. she shoule have been able to pass that stuff out

censorship is runinig everything
 

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Originally posted by: CPA
personally, I think it was the right decision.
...they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship.

i totally agree

you can tell kids that control their parents and run the household

kids don't and shouldn't have the same rights as adults, that is why there is a distinction between the two
 

Viper GTS

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She has no business trying to organize a revolt, this is gradeschool - She doesn't have a choice but to be there, & she will play by their rules until she is old enough to decide otherwise.

F*** her. And her parents.

Viper GTS
 

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Originally posted by: CPA
Well not according to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Well, at least not in a school setting per the decision, and personally, I think it was the right decision.

I know in my household, my kids (all 9 and under) don't live in a Democracy, they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship. Otherwise, they would vote to have ice cream for dinner every night :Q:)

Children are allowed to own firearms though, right?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Eli
I disagree with the ruling and the tone of the article in general.

"An eight- or nine-year-old child might not be able to resist the peer pressure to sign a petition and thus might do so even if the petition advocates a position with which he or she does not agree. In any event, a child of such age should not be confronted with having to make the choice to sign or not sign," Greenberg wrote.

Bullsh!t.


I can tell you, without a doubt, my 9 year old boy would sign something like that, just because it would look cool. He wouldn't have a fricken clue what it was about, just that it was something that had to do with animals and a girl asked him to sign it.
LOL!

True, I guess.. I guess I'm not thinking like a 9 year old enough. :p The idea seemed silly at the time.

As if the petition would have mattered anyway. Do you think it really would have stopped them from going if enough kids signed it? lol

 

rahvin

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Minors rights, including that to freedom of speech are held in trust by their guardians. School is a place for education, the supreme court ruled many years ago that while in school students do NOT have freedom of speech if that speech disrupts the learning process.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: CPA
Well not according to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Well, at least not in a school setting per the decision, and personally, I think it was the right decision.

I know in my household, my kids (all 9 and under) don't live in a Democracy, they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship. Otherwise, they would vote to have ice cream for dinner every night :Q:)

Children are allowed to own firearms though, right?

Not exactly. To officially "own" them they (usually) need to be 18.

However, it is perfectly legal for an adult to temporarily transfer a weapon to a juvenile for it's intended use.

My brother has numerous firearms that are "his," though he does not officially own them.

Viper GTS
 

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: CPA
personally, I think it was the right decision.
...they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship.

i totally agree

you can tell kids that control their parents and run the household

kids don't and shouldn't have the same rights as adults, that is why there is a distinction between the two

Up to a certain point, I agree with you.

However, publicly, I feel that once you work, and pay taxes which help support our gov't, that you should be granted full rights by that gov't. Whether or not you can exercise them at home, and still have a home, is another matter entirely...but once you pay taxes, you should, at the very least, get the right to vote. Current practices, ironically enough, cause the very same issue that started our country's birth. I was pissed off by this when I was in HS, just a few years ago, and still find it disturbing...and of course it will never come up in elections, since <18 = no vote.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: CPA
Well not according to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Well, at least not in a school setting per the decision, and personally, I think it was the right decision.

I know in my household, my kids (all 9 and under) don't live in a Democracy, they live in a belevolent Duo-Dictatorship. Otherwise, they would vote to have ice cream for dinner every night :Q:)

Children are allowed to own firearms though, right?


I'm not sure I understand your question or, more frankly, why you're asking it.
 

Moonbeam

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There isn't that much difference in maturity level between a nine year old and the average conservative voter and probably because of parental control. If you could have eaten all the icecream you wanted any time you wanted, you quickly adopt eating habits that satisfy your organic needs. If you can have everything you want you quickly take only what you need. That is the strength of liberal attitude. Universal generosity of spirit and goods through inner fulfillment and satisfaction with the self. So very simple and so very unknown.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There isn't that much difference in maturity level between a nine year old and the average conservative voter and probably because of parental control. If you could have eaten all the icecream you wanted any time you wanted, you quickly adopt eating habits that satisfy your organic needs. If you can have everything you want you quickly take only what you need. That is the strength of liberal attitude. Universal generosity of spirit and goods through inner fulfillment and satisfaction with the self. So very simple and so very unknown.

sorry, they tried that, and no matter if 90% of people do that, the 10% will soak up so much it will be a tremendous burden on the 90% who will rise up and kill them.
 

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Minors rights, including that to freedom of speech are held in trust by their guardians. School is a place for education, the supreme court ruled many years ago that while in school students do NOT have freedom of speech if that speech disrupts the learning process.

 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There isn't that much difference in maturity level between a nine year old and the average conservative voter and probably because of parental control. If you could have eaten all the icecream you wanted any time you wanted, you quickly adopt eating habits that satisfy your organic needs. If you can have everything you want you quickly take only what you need. That is the strength of liberal attitude. Universal generosity of spirit and goods through inner fulfillment and satisfaction with the self. So very simple and so very unknown.


thanks moonbeam for the suttle personal attack, though funny as it was.

What's even funnier, is that it is proven that conservatives on a whole give much more in the terms of goods than liberals. Spirit can only be debated.