Do British Muslims really pose a threat to that country and its traditional values?

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: Alaa

Originally posted by: straightalker
Here's "funny" for you 5150Joker. Mel Gibson recieving a public flogging for a rant about Jews. While being the creator of a purposely gratuitously bloody 3hr snuff film all about Jewz and Romanz flogging, beating, stabbing, torturing and spitting on Jesus Christ and then nailing him live to a cross until dead. Think there is any connection?

This is a perfect link to chew on. Muslim Conquests in Europe.

In less than 100 years, Muslim warriors conquered lands for Islam from Persia to Spain. Muslims then pushed further into Europe. Their incursion into Western Europe was stopped in France. Their invasion from the east was finally halted at the gates of Vienna.

Islam always advances across any continant (or island) with the sole intention of killing everyone who will not convert, and then setting up an Ismic fascist Dictatorship in it's place. As a springboard to plot the next invasion of a Christian or other type of soveriegn land. Never mind if the people to be conquered are willing to live side by side in peace with Islam. They will all be annihilated as will everyone in the UK eventually if nothing is done to halt the current Islamic invasion happening there now. I'm simply projecting history forward and not ranting. Please study history and speak from it. It's the source of predicting the future and safeguarding that future. Our future. Not theirs. They care only about themselves and no one else.

I am starting to laugh, is that what you want?
Muslims killed everyone who would not convert..what a punch of crap talk is this?
Muslims only wanted to spread Islam. Jihad is a way of spreading Islam and we don't want to kill because we are told to kill! This is a way to reach our goal not our goal! And that is completely different than killing people who do not convert because we only killed in wars but when it comes to civilians we cannot touch them whether they converted or not and this can be EASILY identified from Quran : "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion." 109:6.
I hope you come up with "Anti-Islamism" soon.

lol

 

[dwell]

Europe better wake up. At the rate it's going, within a century Europe will be an Islamic state if we don't resist now. I don't want the Vatican to become a mosque anymore than Muslims want Mecca to become a Cathedral.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: yllus
When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" one in four say it is not their own. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by these laws.

Given those statistics, why don't the Brits simply develop a program that flies these folks to Afghanistan free-of-charge and they can live their "dream life" under Sharia Law while helping re-build that country at the same time?

Win-Win

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: yllus
When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" one in four say it is not their own. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by these laws.

Given those statistics, why don't the Brits simply develop a program that flies these folks to Afghanistan free-of-charge and they can live their "dream life" under Sharia Law while helping re-build that country at the same time?

Win-Win

I AGREE

 

[beyoku]

I hope they take over, and then i hope China rules all.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: beyoku
I hope they take over, and then i hope China rules all.

I'm sure you'd love having China harvest your organs. :disgust:

Originally posted by: Chris
Europe better wake up. At the rate it's going, within a century Europe will be an Islamic state if we don't resist now. I don't want the Vatican to become a mosque anymore than Muslims want Mecca to become a Cathedral.

What you said is spot on, but the hour is later than that and not NEARLY enough people care. The outcome has already been decided.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: straightalker

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Funny, if you say anything remotely negative about Jews or Israel you're instantly labeled an anti-semite and people go for your jugular. Look at poor old Mel Gibson and the public flogging he got just for uttering some nonsense while he was drunk no less. There's already active censorship about anti-Jewish/Israel speech, it should extend equally to all faiths.

Here's "funny" for you 5150Joker. Mel Gibson recieving a public flogging for a rant about Jews. While being the creator of a purposely gratuitously bloody 3hr snuff film all about Jewz and Romanz flogging, beating, stabbing, torturing and spitting on Jesus Christ and then nailing him live to a cross until dead. Think there is any connection?

This is a perfect link to chew on. Muslim Conquests in Europe.

In less than 100 years, Muslim warriors conquered lands for Islam from Persia to Spain. Muslims then pushed further into Europe. Their incursion into Western Europe was stopped in France. Their invasion from the east was finally halted at the gates of Vienna.

Islam always advances across any continant (or island) with the sole intention of killing everyone who will not convert, .......... As a springboard to plot the next invasion of a Christian or other type of soveriegn land. Never mind if the people to be conquered are willing to live side by side in peace with Islam. They will all be annihilated as will everyone in the UK eventually if nothing is done to halt the current Islamic invasion happening there now. I'm simply projecting history forward and not ranting. Please study history and speak from it. It's the source of predicting the future and safeguarding that future. Our future. Not theirs. They care only about themselves and no one else.

Well if you had studied history you'd know that during the Crusades it was the Christian Crusaders who slaughtered the Muslims and Jews they conquered while the Muslims spared the lives of the Christians and Jews despite the brutality of the Crusaders.

And if you had studied history, you'd know full well that the Crusades were a defensive response to centuries of Muslim aggression against the West. How did they get their hands on the Holy Land in the first place? Or Asia Minor, Spain, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, parts of Provence, etc.? Thats right; they conquered them from the Christians with the declared intention of converting the inhabitants by force. They assaulted Christendom for 400 years with their own "crusade", and finally the Christians had enough and turned the tables on them. THEY started it, and history proves it; however, Christianity began to EVOLVE after Luther and the Thirty Years War, while Islam NEVER DID. THEY invented the "convert-or-die" game, and they're the ones still playing it.

1000 years later, the West is willing to accept them into our own world with their culture and beliefs intact, while they STILL are not willing to do the same; in fact, as the OP said, they expect to come to the West and force it to change its own internal laws to fit their ridiculous medieval world-view. So you're either intentionally misrepresenting the truth, or you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[SamurAchzar]

It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Chris
Europe better wake up. At the rate it's going, within a century Europe will be an Islamic state if we don't resist now. I don't want the Vatican to become a mosque anymore than Muslims want Mecca to become a Cathedral.

What you said is spot on, but the hour is later than that and not NEARLY enough people care. The outcome has already been decided.

Political correctness will be the death of us all. People are so afraid of being labeled racist or nationalist that they would let foreigners come in and take over the land their forefathers fought and died over for thousands of years. There should be no shame in wanting Europe to remain European. It's not a melting pot like the US.

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
And if you had studied history, you'd know full well that the Crusades were a defensive response to centuries of Muslim aggression against the West. How did they get their hands on the Holy Land in the first place? Or Asia Minor, Spain, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, parts of Provence, etc.? Thats right; they conquered them from the Christians with the declared intention of converting the inhabitants by force. They assaulted Christendom for 400 years with their own "crusade", and finally the Christians had enough and turned the tables on them. THEY started it, and history proves it; however, Christianity began to EVOLVE after Luther and the Thirty Years War, while Islam NEVER DID. THEY invented the "convert-or-die" game, and they're the ones still playing it.

1000 years later, the West is willing to accept them into our own world with their culture and beliefs intact, while they STILL are not willing to do the same; in fact, as the OP said, they expect to come to the West and force it to change its own internal laws to fit their ridiculous medieval world-view. So you're either intentionally misrepresenting the truth, or you have no idea what you're talking about.

It is suddenly considered Christians land when it is filled with Muslims! The Romans had this land, True, but what did they do? Kill or slave everyone who doesn't pay the taxes! Well this proves that they just conquered this land for treasures. We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations. What did you do? you thought that this land is yours and you should take it back?? Lame, Lame, Lame!

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Chris
Europe better wake up. At the rate it's going, within a century Europe will be an Islamic state if we don't resist now. I don't want the Vatican to become a mosque anymore than Muslims want Mecca to become a Cathedral.

What you said is spot on, but the hour is later than that and not NEARLY enough people care. The outcome has already been decided.

Political correctness will be the death of us all. People are so afraid of being labeled racist or nationalist that they would let foreigners come in and take over the land their forefathers fought and died over for thousands of years. There should be no shame in wanting Europe to remain European. It's not a melting pot like the US.

It goes beyond political correctness to actually deciding if freedom of speech and religion is worth your life, something that many in the west have forgotten after the cold war.

Fear of criticizing Islam

Debate about self-censorship
On September 17, 2005, the Danish newspaper Politiken ran an article under the headline "Dyb angst for kritik af islam" [4] ("Profound fear of criticism of Islam"). The article discussed the difficulty encountered by the writer Kåre Bluitgen, who was initially unable to find an illustrator who was prepared to work with Bluitgen on his children's book Koranen og profeten Muhammeds liv (English: The Qur'an and the life of the Prophet Muhammad ISBN 87-638-0049-7). Three artists declined Bluitgen's proposal before an artist agreed to assist anonymously. According to Bluitgen:

One [artist declined], with reference to the murder in Amsterdam of the film director Theo van Gogh, while another [declined, citing the attack on] the lecturer at the Carsten Niebuhr Institute in Copenhagen.[4]

In October 2004, a lecturer at the Niebuhr institute at the University of Copenhagen was assaulted by five assailants who opposed his reading the Qur'an to non-Muslims during a lecture.[5]

The refusal of the first three artists to participate was seen as evidence of self-censorship and led to much debate in Denmark, with other examples for similar reasons soon emerging. Comedian Frank Hvam declared that he would (hypothetically) dare urinating on the Bible on television, but not on the Qur'an[6][7] while the translators of an essay collection critical of Islam also wished to remain anonymous due to concerns about violent reprisals.

Many liberal secular apologists today would not think twice about urinating on christian symbols like the bible but know if they tried that with Islam it would be like pissing in a fan blowing in their face.


The Stalins and the Pinochets of the world required large security services to control the people and their thoughts with swift reprisals if one spoke out against them or their beliefs and policies.

The radical Islamists have greater power since they do not require standing armies or security services yet can silence the many even though they are few.

If you are critical of Islam in a public way you either go into hiding like Salman Rushdie or pay the price like Theo van Gogh

Even the mighty Jerry Falwell had to apologize after a Fatwah was issued against him:laugh:

This says it best

Comedy Central Surrenders
Was there ever a more brutal savaging of a show's own network while that show was still on the air? Last night, Trey Parker and Matt Stone concluded last week's South Park episode by throwing everything they had against Comedy Central, a compliant press, and the people who gave in to fear of violence in the wake of a few offensive cartoons.

To underscore Comedy Central's (and by extension, Viacom's) double standards and cowardice, last night's episode ended with Jesus Christ crapping all over an American flag.

And yet, the network would allow no Mohammed, not even one handing the Family Guy a football helmet with a salmon. Parker and Stone called media institutions on the carpet over their failure to defend the First Amendment, and they replied with more fear, more weakness, and an increasing willingness to kneel before Allah. To think, a silly little cartoon on basic cable about a redneck mountain town does more to defend the constitution than such self-vaunted press institutions like the New York Times and CNN. What an extraordinary world we find ourselves in.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

You've got to be shitting me, you people are fvcking NUTS. Muslims are not "The Borg" any more than ANY immigrant group in the history of the planet. Don't you realize that alarmist morons go around screaming about the end of civilization every single time a new group is introduced into their society? Every single time, and not once have they been right. What DOES happen, without fail, is that new groups go through an adjustment period with some tension with the existing society...and then everyone gets over it and society moves on. There is no evidence that I see that this case is any different, some stupid polls don't predict long term trends in the beliefs on either side, and if there is one constant in the world it's that views change over time. If you think that the views and attitudes of British Muslims (or ANY Muslims for that matter) are going to be exactly the same 20 years from now, you haven't been paying a lot of attention to history.

I swear, you guys aren't happy unless there is some civilization ending threat to get your panties in a bunch about. Which is great and all, but you might have more fun if you stopped freaking out all the time over nothing.

 

[Screech]

We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations.

How was it that you were protecting yourselves from any threat from nearby nations by conquering lands all the way up to the Battle of Tours? Modern-day France is/was hardly anywhere close to the center of the past Caliphate....not that facts are at all important or anything....

 

[IrateLeaf]

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

Excellent response. 100% accurate and very very true!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: screech

We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations.

How was it that you were protecting yourselves from any threat from nearby nations by conquering lands all the way up to the Battle of Tours? Modern-day France is/was hardly anywhere close to the center of the past Caliphate....not that facts are at all important or anything....

Indeed, but that is hardly Muslims specific thinking...Russia had pretty much the same idea after WWII, and they are hardly the only ones.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: IrateLeaf

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

Excellent response. 100% accurate and very very true!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

This is the God damn 21st century and we're going to have a holy war. Fan-fvcking-tastic!

 

[Screech]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: screech

We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations.

How was it that you were protecting yourselves from any threat from nearby nations by conquering lands all the way up to the Battle of Tours? Modern-day France is/was hardly anywhere close to the center of the past Caliphate....not that facts are at all important or anything....

Indeed, but that is hardly Muslims specific thinking...Russia had pretty much the same idea after WWII, and they are hardly the only ones.

True, but that followed western russia essentially getting decimated in the course of WW2 (after losing a good deal of it, later recaptured, to Germany in WWI) whereas in the expansionist-Islam debate here, the closest thing that approaches that--the crusades--only came AFTER Muslim aggression.

On another note, I can't believe that anyone takes the 'borg' comment seriously....:laugh:

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: screech

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: screech

We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations.

How was it that you were protecting yourselves from any threat from nearby nations by conquering lands all the way up to the Battle of Tours? Modern-day France is/was hardly anywhere close to the center of the past Caliphate....not that facts are at all important or anything....

Indeed, but that is hardly Muslims specific thinking...Russia had pretty much the same idea after WWII, and they are hardly the only ones.

True, but that followed western russia essentially getting decimated in the course of WW2 (after losing a good deal of it, later recaptured, to Germany in WWI) whereas in the expansionist-Islam debate here, the closest thing that approaches that--the crusades--only came AFTER Muslim aggression.

On another note, I can't believe that anyone takes the 'borg' comment seriously....:laugh:

True, the circumstances aren't totally comparable. I would hope that most people have learned from the past, the crusades period is hardly one we want to emulate. But I suppose some people never learn.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Chris
Europe better wake up. At the rate it's going, within a century Europe will be an Islamic state if we don't resist now. I don't want the Vatican to become a mosque anymore than Muslims want Mecca to become a Cathedral.

What you said is spot on, but the hour is later than that and not NEARLY enough people care. The outcome has already been decided.

Political correctness will be the death of us all. People are so afraid of being labeled racist or nationalist that they would let foreigners come in and take over the land their forefathers fought and died over for thousands of years. There should be no shame in wanting Europe to remain European. It's not a melting pot like the US.

It goes beyond political correctness to actually deciding if freedom of speech and religion is worth your life, something that many in the west have forgotten after the cold war.

Fear of criticizing Islam

Debate about self-censorship
On September 17, 2005, the Danish newspaper Politiken ran an article under the headline "Dyb angst for kritik af islam" [4] ("Profound fear of criticism of Islam"). The article discussed the difficulty encountered by the writer Kåre Bluitgen, who was initially unable to find an illustrator who was prepared to work with Bluitgen on his children's book Koranen og profeten Muhammeds liv (English: The Qur'an and the life of the Prophet Muhammad ISBN 87-638-0049-7). Three artists declined Bluitgen's proposal before an artist agreed to assist anonymously. According to Bluitgen:

One [artist declined], with reference to the murder in Amsterdam of the film director Theo van Gogh, while another [declined, citing the attack on] the lecturer at the Carsten Niebuhr Institute in Copenhagen.[4]

In October 2004, a lecturer at the Niebuhr institute at the University of Copenhagen was assaulted by five assailants who opposed his reading the Qur'an to non-Muslims during a lecture.[5]

The refusal of the first three artists to participate was seen as evidence of self-censorship and led to much debate in Denmark, with other examples for similar reasons soon emerging. Comedian Frank Hvam declared that he would (hypothetically) dare urinating on the Bible on television, but not on the Qur'an[6][7] while the translators of an essay collection critical of Islam also wished to remain anonymous due to concerns about violent reprisals.

Many liberal secular apologists today would not think twice about urinating on christian symbols like the bible but know if they tried that with Islam it would be like pissing in a fan blowing in their face.


The Stalins and the Pinochets of the world required large security services to control the people and their thoughts with swift reprisals if one spoke out against them or their beliefs and policies.

The radical Islamists have greater power since they do not require standing armies or security services yet can silence the many even though they are few.

If you are critical of Islam in a public way you either go into hiding like Salman Rushdie or pay the price like Theo van Gogh

Even the mighty Jerry Falwell had to apologize after a Fatwah was issued against him:laugh:

This says it best

Comedy Central Surrenders
Was there ever a more brutal savaging of a show's own network while that show was still on the air? Last night, Trey Parker and Matt Stone concluded last week's South Park episode by throwing everything they had against Comedy Central, a compliant press, and the people who gave in to fear of violence in the wake of a few offensive cartoons.

To underscore Comedy Central's (and by extension, Viacom's) double standards and cowardice, last night's episode ended with Jesus Christ crapping all over an American flag.

And yet, the network would allow no Mohammed, not even one handing the Family Guy a football helmet with a salmon. Parker and Stone called media institutions on the carpet over their failure to defend the First Amendment, and they replied with more fear, more weakness, and an increasing willingness to kneel before Allah. To think, a silly little cartoon on basic cable about a redneck mountain town does more to defend the constitution than such self-vaunted press institutions like the New York Times and CNN. What an extraordinary world we find ourselves in.

Great post. Thank you :thumbsup:

 

[Alaa]

Originally posted by: screech

We conquered to spread Islam and to protect ourselves from any threat by the nearby nations.

How was it that you were protecting yourselves from any threat from nearby nations by conquering lands all the way up to the Battle of Tours? Modern-day France is/was hardly anywhere close to the center of the past Caliphate....not that facts are at all important or anything....

good but didn't I mention Spreading Islam AND protecting ourselves..see? there is a SMALL AND in between!

 

[Alaa]

Although many people still believe Islam was a religion spread ?by the sword,? it is important to distinguish the spread of rule by Muslims from the spread of Islam as a religious belief. The Koran states that ?there is no compulsion in matters of religion,? and the Muslim Arabs, desiring to preserve their power and the mystery of their success, had little interest in bringing others into the community. However, the Koran does enjoin Muslims to spread Islamic rule, so that wherever Muslims live, they are not forced to live according to laws that might go against their faith.

In fact, compared with conditions under the Byzantines and Sassanids, the period of the Arab Umayyad dynasty (661-751) was one of extraordinary religious and cultural tolerance for the non-Muslim subject populations. The ruling policies of the Umayyads were driven less by benevolence than by practical concerns, however. The Arabs considered Islam their own religion; as long as they remained firmly in control politically, the traditions of the so-called protected peoples (conquered residents protected by the Muslims from other invading armies) posed no threat. Furthermore, the Arabs were aware of the many ways in which their subjects? cultural heritages could benefit them as rulers. The Umayyads allowed and encouraged the immigration of skilled individuals?such as physicians, astronomers, and mathematicians?from the Byzantine world. Many of these immigrants were members of unorthodox Christian sects or were unconverted pagans who suffered persecution under the Byzantines and found the Arab-ruled lands more hospitable. The Arabs also were open to learning from the intellectual traditions of the classical Mediterranean world, including the works of the Greek and Latin philosophers and scientists, shunned by the Christian Byzantines. As a result of this interest, many classical works were translated into Arabic; later these Arabic translations were transmitted to medieval Europe, mainly through Spain.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: 1prophet
Comedy Central Surrenders
Was there ever a more brutal savaging of a show's own network while that show was still on the air? Last night, Trey Parker and Matt Stone concluded last week's South Park episode by throwing everything they had against Comedy Central, a compliant press, and the people who gave in to fear of violence in the wake of a few offensive cartoons.

To underscore Comedy Central's (and by extension, Viacom's) double standards and cowardice, last night's episode ended with Jesus Christ crapping all over an American flag.

And yet, the network would allow no Mohammed, not even one handing the Family Guy a football helmet with a salmon. Parker and Stone called media institutions on the carpet over their failure to defend the First Amendment, and they replied with more fear, more weakness, and an increasing willingness to kneel before Allah. To think, a silly little cartoon on basic cable about a redneck mountain town does more to defend the constitution than such self-vaunted press institutions like the New York Times and CNN. What an extraordinary world we find ourselves in.

You don't believe this piece of crap do you?

South Park wasn't censored, it was a gag. Watch the episode and stop reading crappy little blogs who are obviously too stupid to understand a f-ing cartoon on Comedy Central.

I swear we need more chlorine in our gene pool.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: IrateLeaf

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

Excellent response. 100% accurate and very very true!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

This is the God damn 21st century and we're going to have a holy war. Fan-fvcking-tastic!

Some religions (one) are still living in the 12th century... that's why.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: IrateLeaf

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
It doesn't matter what happened in the past. What matters is that they are Borg-like threat to the fragile structure of the Western democracies, that treads on a very fine line to remain what they are. We can't allow our world to be taken over by Muslims. The only question is that whether Europe will wake up now and put an end to this harmful immigration, or whether it'll wait 20 more years, which will eventually lead to a civil war in the good case, or complete loss of the European heritage at the worst.

Excellent response. 100% accurate and very very true!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

This is the God damn 21st century and we're going to have a holy war. Fan-fvcking-tastic!

Some religions (one) are still living in the 12th century... that's why.

I don't know about that, those two I quoted seem just as eager to turn this into a full scale Holy War as the worst Hamas fanatic. And it's not just them, there are a disturbingly large number of people who seem EAGER to go from dealing with a small number of actual violent fanatics to waging war on the entire religion of Islam. If this conflict turns into a full scale shooting war between Muslims and Jews/Christians in western countries, it seems just as likely to me that Muslims will not have been the ones to start it.

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: 1prophet
Comedy Central Surrenders
Was there ever a more brutal savaging of a show's own network while that show was still on the air? Last night, Trey Parker and Matt Stone concluded last week's South Park episode by throwing everything they had against Comedy Central, a compliant press, and the people who gave in to fear of violence in the wake of a few offensive cartoons.

To underscore Comedy Central's (and by extension, Viacom's) double standards and cowardice, last night's episode ended with Jesus Christ crapping all over an American flag.

And yet, the network would allow no Mohammed, not even one handing the Family Guy a football helmet with a salmon. Parker and Stone called media institutions on the carpet over their failure to defend the First Amendment, and they replied with more fear, more weakness, and an increasing willingness to kneel before Allah. To think, a silly little cartoon on basic cable about a redneck mountain town does more to defend the constitution than such self-vaunted press institutions like the New York Times and CNN. What an extraordinary world we find ourselves in.

You don't believe this piece of crap do you?

South Park wasn't censored, it was a gag. Watch the episode and stop reading crappy little blogs who are obviously too stupid to understand a f-ing cartoon on Comedy Central.

I swear we need more chlorine in our gene pool.

Links?

Are you saying that Comedy Central was willing to air a depiction of Mohammed?