Do any web designers use Mac's?

eflat

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Is the software a web designer needs available on the Mac platform? Or is web design one are that the PC is still king?
 
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As long as notepad is still there you're fine. I could and am probably wrong, but I believe Mac's have better image editing programs aswell? Or is that video editing?
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: LoKe
As long as notepad is still there you're fine. I could and am probably wrong, but I believe Mac's have better image editing programs aswell? Or is that video editing?

video editing I blieve


Correctme if I am wrong but all major web design programs such as PS are available for mac but because they were first written for x86 PS works better on a pc
 

DAGTA

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I don't use a Mac but I have met many web designers that prefer the Mac over the PC.
 

Ornery

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My son is going to be using a Mac program called "GoLive" pretty soon. He's always used NotePad in the past, and laughed at me because I prefer FrontPage. We'll see how he likes it and get back to you...
 
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I was under the impression that Notepad > FrontPage. I seriously never used it befor ein my life, but I guess if you know what you're doing; you can make it work. I liked Notepad for it's simplicity.
 

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Originally posted by: Ornery
My son is going to be using a Mac program called "GoLive" pretty soon. He's always used NotePad in the past, and laughed at me because I prefer FrontPage. We'll see how he likes it and get back to you...

a mac program...I believe thats a x86 prog available for MAC....its just part of adobe's creative suite


anyway I use dreamweaver, notepad, photoshop, flash and thats about it, sometimes audition if the site needs sound...
 
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I tried to learn flash but I sucked terribly at it. I used Dreamweaver whenever there was a simple code I just couldn't get right. Other than that, Notepad was all I needed. Well, of course Photoshop for images...
 

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Originally posted by: Ornery
My son is going to be using a Mac program called "GoLive" pretty soon. He's always used NotePad in the past, and laughed at me because I prefer FrontPage. We'll see how he likes it and get back to you...

* > Frontpage

Dreamweaver and Golive are both crossplatform.
 

eflat

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Yes you can definitely use a Mac for web design.

Good. I was just wondering if the little things like FTP programs and what not were any sort of hinderance.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think I am going to completely abandon the PC platform and not look back. Never thought it would or could happen.
 

eflat

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Originally posted by: Ornery
My son is going to be using a Mac program called "GoLive" pretty soon. He's always used NotePad in the past, and laughed at me because I prefer FrontPage. We'll see how he likes it and get back to you...

Well now that is interesting. I just bought the Adobe suite myself and am getting ready to take some classes on it.

I did not know Adobe was big in the web design are as well.
 

Rayden

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What you need for web design, in my opinion:

An easy to use light text editor. I prefer to write the HTML as opposed to using a decent editor like Dreamweaver (no Frontpage doesn't even count).

You would need something like Photoshop.

Depending on what language you use it might be a problem. I'm not sure if you can run the Ruby on Rails development server on a Mac.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: LoKe
I was under the impression that Notepad > FrontPage. I seriously never used it befor ein my life, but I guess if you know what you're doing; you can make it work. I liked Notepad for it's simplicity.
Holy crap, I can't even imagine trying to manage a web site with a text editor! I can't imagine using FrontPage exclusively either, but you have to have some way to quickly slap together tables, and automate the uploading and synchronizing.
 

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: LoKe
I was under the impression that Notepad > FrontPage. I seriously never used it befor ein my life, but I guess if you know what you're doing; you can make it work. I liked Notepad for it's simplicity.
Holy crap, I can't even imagine trying to manage a web site with a text editor! I can't imagine using FrontPage exclusively either, but you have to have some way to quickly slap together tables, and automate the uploading and synchronizing.

Don't you need Frontpage extensions on the server to support that? For me when I throw something together with notepad, I just FTP the folder/file that changed and boom, it's updated, unless I'm missing something.

In regards to GoLive - I've heard rave reviews about that thing. I haven't used Frontpage in a few years but does it use CSS for formatting/positioning now? Standards now have phased out the tables and all that crap in favor of CSS. Granted, my knowledge and hand coding of CSS is very limited, and I almost prefer to handcode tables because I'm used to it.
 

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To the people who say web designers use notepad: you're clueless.

I am a web designer and anyone who uses notepad is clearly not either pressed for time or concerned with the quality of their work.

I've used both Dreamweaver and Frontpage combined with my own HTML skill and they both work fantastic.

Secondly, you need imaging software, preferably Photoshop. This is far more important than any HTML editor. However, I do believe Photoshop is available for Mac.

Thirdly, I would not recommend any Mac for webdesign. Why? You need to know the behavior of the site from the viewpoint of the majority of internet users. Since less than 10% of all people use Macs, and most of them business and educational users, I would not recommend Mac as a way to "test" a website's look and usability.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
To the people who say web designers use notepad: you're clueless.

I am a web designer and anyone who uses notepad is clearly not either pressed for time or concerned with the quality of their work.

I've used both Dreamweaver and Frontpage combined with my own HTML skill and they both work fantastic.

Secondly, you need imaging software, preferably Photoshop. This is far more important than any HTML editor. However, I do believe Photoshop is available for Mac.

Thirdly, I would not recommend any Mac for webdesign. Why? You need to know the behavior of the site from the viewpoint of the majority of internet users. Since less than 10% of all people use Macs, and most of them business and educational users, I would not recommend Mac as a way to "test" a website's look and usability.

You're a web professional? Could have fooled me with drivel like that.
 

remagavon

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Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: LoKe
As long as notepad is still there you're fine. I could and am probably wrong, but I believe Mac's have better image editing programs aswell? Or is that video editing?

video editing I blieve


Correctme if I am wrong but all major web design programs such as PS are available for mac but because they were first written for x86 PS works better on a pc

Actually (although I haven't seen a gamut of photoshop benchmarks run on both platforms), one PS benchmark is currently the fastest on a Quad G5, scoring 22 seconds where the lowest PC score I've seen is around 27 seconds or so with a highly overclocked A64 X2. The Quad is also currently the leader in a 3d benchmark that I can't find for the life of me right now, but it bested the highest end Xeon system by around 20% or so.

Photoshop doesn't exactly run 'slow' on anything anymore, so it's really about what type of interface you want to use with it. I'd much rather use OSX and have expose at my fingertips when working with a ton of images at once (web designers do this frequently) than having to alt tab or manually spread out images using windows. It's not that big of a deal, but it is 'nice'.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
To the people who say web designers use notepad: you're clueless.

I am a web designer and anyone who uses notepad is clearly not either pressed for time or concerned with the quality of their work.

I've used both Dreamweaver and Frontpage combined with my own HTML skill and they both work fantastic.

Secondly, you need imaging software, preferably Photoshop. This is far more important than any HTML editor. However, I do believe Photoshop is available for Mac.

Thirdly, I would not recommend any Mac for webdesign. Why? You need to know the behavior of the site from the viewpoint of the majority of internet users. Since less than 10% of all people use Macs, and most of them business and educational users, I would not recommend Mac as a way to "test" a website's look and usability.

You're a web professional? Could have fooled me with drivel like that.

I am not a programmer and I know little on the database side. My skill is primarily in imaging and marketing.

If you're a programmer, my message probably does not apply.
 

Ornery

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Don't you need Frontpage extensions on the server to support that? For me when I throw something together with notepad, I just FTP the folder/file that changed and boom, it's updated, unless I'm missing something.

Yep, you need Frontpage extensions enabled, is that a problem? :confused:

If I FTP a file to the site from a remote computer, Frontpage sees the change and asks to update the local computer. If I change the name of a file, it will update the links to that file throughout the entire site. Not to mention a myriad of other features like Site summary reports and analyzation.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: LoKe
As long as notepad is still there you're fine. I could and am probably wrong, but I believe Mac's have better image editing programs aswell? Or is that video editing?

video editing I blieve


Correctme if I am wrong but all major web design programs such as PS are available for mac but because they were first written for x86 PS works better on a pc

Actually (although I haven't seen a gamut of photoshop benchmarks run on both platforms), one PS benchmark is currently the fastest on a Quad G5, scoring 22 seconds where the lowest PC score I've seen is around 27 seconds or so with a highly overclocked A64 X2. The Quad is also currently the leader in a 3d benchmark that I can't find for the life of me right now, but it bested the highest end Xeon system by around 20% or so.

Photoshop doesn't exactly run 'slow' on anything anymore, so it's really about what type of interface you want to use with it. I'd much rather use OSX and have expose at my fingertips when working with a ton of images at once (web designers do this frequently) than having to alt tab or manually spread out images using windows. It's not that big of a deal, but it is 'nice'.

you're saying a quad G5 barely beats a dualcore A64 X2? Screw that for a joke :laugh: Imagine the price difference for starters...
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
To the people who say web designers use notepad: you're clueless.

I am a web designer and anyone who uses notepad is clearly not either pressed for time or concerned with the quality of their work.

I've used both Dreamweaver and Frontpage combined with my own HTML skill and they both work fantastic.

Secondly, you need imaging software, preferably Photoshop. This is far more important than any HTML editor. However, I do believe Photoshop is available for Mac.

Thirdly, I would not recommend any Mac for webdesign. Why? You need to know the behavior of the site from the viewpoint of the majority of internet users. Since less than 10% of all people use Macs, and most of them business and educational users, I would not recommend Mac as a way to "test" a website's look and usability.
Wow.

Of course Photoshop and Dreamweaver work on Macs.
IE and FireFox both work on Macs too so you can test your site in browsers besides for Safari. I'm a graphic designer, I've worked on Macs for years doing both print and web work.
 

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
To the people who say web designers use notepad: you're clueless.

I am a web designer and anyone who uses notepad is clearly not either pressed for time or concerned with the quality of their work.

I've used both Dreamweaver and Frontpage combined with my own HTML skill and they both work fantastic.

Secondly, you need imaging software, preferably Photoshop. This is far more important than any HTML editor. However, I do believe Photoshop is available for Mac.

Thirdly, I would not recommend any Mac for webdesign. Why? You need to know the behavior of the site from the viewpoint of the majority of internet users. Since less than 10% of all people use Macs, and most of them business and educational users, I would not recommend Mac as a way to "test" a website's look and usability.

You're a web professional? Could have fooled me with drivel like that.

He's right though - if you use Notepad for web design you're wasting your time. You could be working a lot more efficiently with a more full-featured text editor.