Do any of the TI200's or Radeons support TV out at 1024x768?

Armageddon415

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I want a video card that can support TV out at 1024x768. So far I've found that some sites say the Gainward ti200 can do it. But on gainwards site, they only say it can go up to 800x600.
 

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The Radeon 8500 is supposed to be able to. I don't have one so I don't know for sure.
 

JeremiahTheGreat

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Yes.. IT DOES!!!

but the dot pitch of the TV is sooooooo big that you can bearly read any text.. buts it kicks ass for games/dvd!!!
 

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I think the more important question is: "Does anybody know of a TV that supports 1024x768"... LOL.

Sorry, I found that funny.

544x372 is close to native on a TV set. If you start scaling down you're going to get one big pile of poo on the output end. That coupled with an interlaced signal and you'll have discovered some damn ugly picture quality.

BUT... Sometimes big is nice. Though none of the above would ever be acceptable in a professional environment it's fun to try at home. I'd suggest you stay with as low of a resolution as possible and boost AA and all details to full (if you're gaming)

Anyhoo... Just my 2 cents.

 

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<< I think the more important question is: "Does anybody know of a TV that supports 1024x768"... LOL. >>



Makes no difference, LOL, it is converted to an NTSC signal to be displayed on your analog TV, supporting 1024X768 via TV-out enables you to game at 1024X768 resolution and have it displayed on your monitor full screen, simple as that.
Also, with repect to TV reolution and for clarity: Using, for instance the S-video-output of a Radeon video card for example,carries the chroma signal (Q and I) and the lumanance signal on separate physical wires. That allows an Analog TV equipped with S-video input to diplay greater than 330 lines (the limit to RF modulated signals due to FCC bandwidth restrictions) to about 500 lines, which is why a DVD player(or video card, or S-VHS VCR)can deliver a higher resolution picture to an Analog TV (720 X480) AND have it displayed at the higher resolution using S-video.

So, basically, 1024X768 is NO benefit for video files, but has a definate advantage for gaming, and is certainly no detriment for video.


<< That coupled with an interlaced signal and you'll have discovered some damn ugly picture quality >>


Interlaced video looks fine on TV-output, in fact ALL analog broadcast IS interlaced, for NTSC odd and even scanlines are displayed as 240 line fields, 1 every 1/60th of a second(60hz refresh) for 1 frame of video or 30 FPS (actually 29.970).
 

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<< nterlaced video looks fine on TV-output, in fact ALL analog broadcast IS interlaced, for NTSC odd and even scanlines are displayed as 240 line fields, 1 every 1/60th of a second(60hz refresh) for 1 frame of video or 30 FPS (actually 29.970). >>



I think interlaced signals look like crap, especially compared to a computer monitor. Watching NTSC is like listening to a bad AM radio station. It's the worst of the worst. To say something looks good with "TV" quality is, in my opinion, wrong.

I'm not attacking you I just don't agree with what you think looks good. S-video is a slight improvement but nothing to write home about (maybe for a consumer). We both know what it takes to get the best picture, and we both know that neither of us can afford it. :)
 

UncleWai

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why would anyone get a geforce card for tvout
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<< I think interlaced signals look like crap, especially compared to a computer monitor. Watching NTSC is like listening to a bad AM radio station. It's the worst of the worst. To say something looks good with "TV" quality is, in my opinion, wrong >>



Its all relative, IMHO, anyone would be happy with a broadcast quality signal with the TV-output of their video card, to say otherwise IMHO, is both uninformed and naive as to the current state of computer technology. You say "interlaced signals look like crap". How about 1080i? Does that look like crap? Do you watch TV? or just progressive scan DVD's and HDTV broadcasts on your DTV?

You think interlaced NTSC signals look like crap, especially compared to a computer monitor? Do you mean that viewing video without repect to the pixel aspect ratio, looks better on a high resolution display such as a computer monitor compared to viewing it on a low resolution display such as your television set.....Really Einstein? ...ummm, yea me too. How about watching interlaced video? Looks like crap on my monitor, but good on my TV, are you saying you disagree? Set your monitor to 640x480 and 4 bit color, now playback a video watching it on your monitor. The same video played back on my TV looks better than watching it on my monitor at those settings, are you saying you disagree with that?



<< We both know what it takes to get the best picture, and we both know that neither of us can afford it. >>


This thread is about "I want a video card that can support TV out at 1024x768" Simple as that, thats what I'm refering to, I'm not even sure what you're getting at. Gaming with my TV out is enjoyable, even more so with my new card that supports higher resolutions. Watchng DVD's on my TV has a higher quality picture than watching the same video on my TV with my VCR, not quite as good as a set top progressive scan DVD player, but plenty good for my enjoyment. If you disagree, good for you.
 

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I thought you knew what I was talking about. If you want good video then you break all out to component and leave it there. You sync up all your source material and then tag the sync gen into your router, period.

I don't think the name calling is right. I post my opinion in on the subject and you start calling me names. It was my opinion ok? There are several better methods to use and that's all I was saying. Please keep you personal attacks to yourself.


 

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<< I don't think the name calling is right. I post my opinion in on the subject and you start calling me names. It was my opinion ok? >>


OK, show me where I called you any names. Your Posts in this thread are off-topic and flamatory. You start out by not offering a suggestion, but issuing a big" LOL.....ah er....professional environment...blah.....", WTF are you even talking about? A Professional GAMING environment...AT HOME!...puuuuleeeese. READ the post topic buddy!

Then following that gem up with "Watching NTSC is like listening to a bad AM radio station. It's the worst of the worst. To say something looks good with "TV" quality is, in my opinion, wrong." That sure reads like a flame on my "wrong" opinion to me.

Then you follow that FUD with "If you want good video then you break all out to component and leave it there" Hello...remember your "I think the more important question is: "Does anybody know of a TV that supports 1024x768"... LOL." bowshot? Well geee, if your TV doesn't support 1024 X 768, do ya think it supports Y, PB, PR inputs.....(LOL inserted for effect) You are talking in circles, and I'm calling you on it.

How about letting us know what "You sync up all your source material and then tag the sync gen into your router, period." even means concerning TV-out of the video card?

"There are several better methods to use and that's all I was saying." That MAY be what you're thinking. but thats certainly NOT what you're saying.
The topic and his post are pretty simple to grasp, I'd suggest you focus your posts in this thread, or STFU.