DNC Chair Doesn't Know Political Affiliation Of Obama Endorsed Super PAC

[PJABBER]

VIDEO: Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Why, I Have No Idea Which Party Obama's SuperPAC is Affiliated With

I'm shocked. Shocked to find that Democrat National Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, appearing on "Fox News Sunday" yesterday, doesn't know the political affiliation of Obama's endorsed Super PAC.

Ignoring for the moment that even the DEMOCRAT-supporting Washington Post has joined the chorus of opprobrium over the ad,

On just every level, this ad stretches the bounds of common sense and decency. Four Pinocchios.

And DEMOCRAT Lanny Davis, former Special Counsel to DEMOCRAT President Bill Clinton says,

“Bill Burton needs to go to ethics school, he knows perfectly well the ad is misleading and disgusting.”

(Former Obama campaign official and DEMOCRAT Bill Burton is the Obama Super PAC Priorities USA senior strategist and co-founder)

Does DWS have a clue about the world around her? Has her lying become so commonplace that she has stepped through the looking glass to never return?

You would think that the DDEMOCRAT Chairwoman would be well aware that EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE is now aware of the likely illegal collusion that has occurred between Obama and his staff, Obama's Super PAC and the DDEMOCRAT Party.

From Obama supporters CNN,

Aboard Air Force One, (Obama) campaign spokesperson Jen Psaki told reporters that the campaign had “no involvement with any ads that are done by Priorities USA.”

“We don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family,” Psaki said when asked about Soptic’s story.

On CNN’s Early Start Wednesday morning, Obama for America Deputy Campaign Manager Stephanie Cutter also denied that she knew the details of Soptic’s story.

“Well, you do know that we don't have anything to do with Priorities USA,” Cutter told CNN’s John Berman. “That by law, we're not allowed to coordinate with them, and by law we don't have anything to do with their ads. I don't know the facts of when Joe Soptic's wife got sick or when she died.”

But in an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Soptic said that the campaign had asked him to appear at events on behalf of the president to talk about his experiences with Bain. “I was asked to fly to some of the battleground states, but I have been unable to do that,” Soptic said in a phone call.

On a May 14 Obama campaign conference call featuring both Soptic and Cutter, he even told an almost identical story to the one he tells in the new Super PAC ad.

DEMOCRAT Debbie knows much, much more about the collusion between the DNC that she heads and all the DEMOCRAT and Obama PACS that she doesn't.

It is time for a grand jury to start having some conversations with DWS, Stephanie Cutter, Bill Burton, Jen Psaki and a few other DEMOCRAT leaders that others are now referring to as likely... DEMOCRAT felons.

There is no confusion about the DEMOCRAT Party I am referring to, is there?

 

[Orignal Earl]

You didn't start your post with a personal anecdote.
That's not very PJABBER of you

 

[cybrsage]

This thread shows that when you prove a liberal (the DNC leaders are liberals of course) wrong that (s)he is significantly more likely to continue to believe the wrong thing even after proven than a non-liberal. And in fact will likely even believe the now proven wrong thing even more.

 

[techs]

Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

 

[Texashiker]

Why does anyone even pay attention to the democrat party?

After bill clinton and obama, I figured the democrats would have imploded by now.

 

[techs]

Why does anyone even pay attention to the democrat party?

After bill clinton and obama, I figured the democrats would have imploded by now.

Clinton will be a featured speaker at the Democratic convention. Bush is such an embarrasment he can't show his face. After Bush I figured the Republicans would have imploded by now



Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

 

[pcgeek11]

Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

" One of President Obama’s top campaign members is under fire for her response to a controversial ad released by a pro-Obama super PAC that suggested Mitt Romney was responsible for the cancer death of a steel worker’s wife.

Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”


Riiiight they know nothing.

Bull shit.

 

[Genx87]

Time to toss somebody under the bus Obama style.

 

[Bowfinger]

Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

Yeah, that's a pretty blatant and frankly slanderous distortion. The point she kept making, accurately, is that the ad was not produced by the Democratic Party, nor can the party legally direct this SuperPAC (or any other SuperPAC) to do anything. Pjabber is using hand-waving and innuendo to assert that the DNC contacting the person in the ad is the same as colluding with the group who produced the ad, an obvious logical fallacy.

 

[Texashiker]

Clinton will be a featured speaker at the Democratic convention. Bush is such an embarrasment he can't show his face. After Bush I figured the Republicans would have imploded by now

That is part of the problem with the voting public, they quickly forget what their elected officials did while in office.

With everything that has happened in the last 100 years, why are either of the two major parties still in office?

 

[Bowfinger]

" One of President Obama’s top campaign members is under fire for her response to a controversial ad released by a pro-Obama super PAC that suggested Mitt Romney was responsible for the cancer death of a steel worker’s wife.

Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”


Riiiight they know nothing.

Bull shit.

Your error was in reading a PJ post and mindlessly accepting it as truthful. She didn't deny being aware of Soptic and his story. She stated the DNC is not responsible for the SuperPAC ad featuring Soptic. They are simply, factually, unambiguously two very different things. PJ lied to you, and you swallowed it.

 

[techs]

" One of President Obama’s top campaign members is under fire for her response to a controversial ad released by a pro-Obama super PAC that suggested Mitt Romney was responsible for the cancer death of a steel worker’s wife.

Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”


Riiiight they know nothing.

Bull shit.

Post reported for making outrageous claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up.



Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah, that's a pretty blatant and frankly slanderous distortion. The point she kept making, accurately, is that the ad was not produced by the Democratic Party, nor can the party legally direct this SuperPAC (or any other SuperPAC) to do anything. Pjabber is using hand-waving and innuendo to assert that the DNC contacting the person in the ad is the same as colluding with the group who produced the ad, an obvious logical fallacy.

"Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”

 

[pcgeek11]

Post reported for making outrageous claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up.



Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs#Super_PACs

404 No outrageous claims found.

Watch the news, read a paper.They have the recording of the conference call. Look it up in google.

Here let me do it for you: Only 11,000 hits read away.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ste...fficial&client=firefox-a&source=hp&channel=np

 

[techs]

"Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”

Post reported as second time for making outrageous claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up.



Thread reported for title being completely stupid and misleading and 100 percent false.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

 

[cybrsage]

Thread reported for title being completely stupid.

BY LAW A SUPER PAC MAY NOT BE AFFILIATED WITH A POLITICAL PARTY NOR IN ANY WAY COORDINATE ITS EFFORTS WITH A PARTY OR CANDIDATE

Since you are reporting threads for being stupid, I assume you are reporting most of your own threads as well, right, since they meet your requirements for reporting?

As for your post, you are incorrect. The rules for independent expenditure say nothing about not being allowed to be affiliated with a party. It DOES talk about coordinating efforts, but do realize groups use the media to coordinate their efforts easily enough.

COORDINATED PARTY EXPENDITURES, continued
Electioneering communication, treated as, 2 U.S.C. § 441a(a)(7)(C)
Limitations, 2 U.S.C. § 441a(d)
— in Congressional general election, 2 U.S.C. § 441a(d)(3)
— in Presidential general election, 2 U.S.C. § 441a(d)(2)
— waived when opponent spends personal funds, 2 U.S.C. §§ 441a(i)(1)(c)(iii)(III) and 441a-1(a)(1)(C)
Prohibited after independent expenditure made, 2 U.S.C. § 441a(d)(4)

http://www.fec.gov/law/feca/feca.pdf

2 USC § 441a - Limitations on contributions and expenditures

(4) Independent versus coordinated expenditures by party.—
(A) In general.— On or after the date on which a political party nominates a candidate, no committee of the political party may make—(i)any coordinated expenditure under this subsection with respect to the candidate during the election cycle at any time after it makes any independent expenditure (as defined in section 431(17) of this title) with respect to the candidate during the election cycle; or
(ii)any independent expenditure (as defined in section 431(17) of this title) with respect to the candidate during the election cycle at any time after it makes any coordinated expenditure under this subsection with respect to the candidate during the election cycle.


(17) Independent expenditure.— The term “independent expenditure” means an expenditure by a person—
(A)expressly advocating the election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate; and
(B)that is not made in concert or cooperation with or at the request or suggestion of such candidate, the candidate’s authorized political committee, or their agents, or a political party committee or its agents.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/441a

In political terms, party affiliation means the party do you identify with, support, etc. It is not the same as business affilitation. You can see its use here by Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/Pa...State-States-Political-Party-Affiliation.aspx

 

[cybrsage]

"Wednesday, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said that she didn’t know any of the details surrounding the ad or the man’s story. But now it has come to light that in May, Cutter hosted a conference call featuring that same steel worker. In audio of the call, Joe Soptic can be heard saying, “You can’t expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family means.” Cutter can be heard saying, “Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate you and David sharing your experiences.”

Can you post the link to where you took this info? Right now, it is an unsourced bit of info and therefor should be ignored as not being true.

 

[techs]

404 No outrageous claims found.

Watch the news, read a paper.They have the recording of the conference call. Look it up in google.

Here let me do it for you: Only 11,000 hits read away.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ste...fficial&client=firefox-a&source=hp&channel=np

First two results. Rush Limbaugh, National Review

 

[pcgeek11]

Your error was in reading a PJ post and mindlessly accepting it as truthful. She didn't deny being aware of Soptic and his story. She stated the DNC is not responsible for the SuperPAC ad featuring Soptic. They are simply, factually, unambiguously two very different things. PJ lied to you, and you swallowed it.

No. You are wrong. I didn't swallow anything. The DNC and Obama's campaign are linked together along with this PAC that is run by one of Obama's minions. You are the one that is swallowing a load of crap. The Real Facts back me up.

Obama’s deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said she didn't know anything about it or who he was. She Lied. Period. I do not believe Debbie Wasserman either. Neither should you.

 

[pcgeek11]

Can you post the link to where you took this info? Right now, it is an unsourced bit of info and therefor should be ignored as not being true.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/08/0...bout-knowledge-of-controversial-super-pac-ad/

There are 10,999 more hits.

 

[pcgeek11]

First two results. Rush Limbaugh, National Review

Bull Shit. The very first hit was the you tube recording of the call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOoZl0tHvQ

Here is where the quote came from:

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/08/0...bout-knowledge-of-controversial-super-pac-ad/

Report away! Deflect ...

 

[PJABBER]

You didn't start your post with a personal anecdote.
That's not very PJABBER of you

Earl! My main man of the Great White North! How are you feeling, buddy? Hope you are back on your feet!

As you know, I like to mix up my stylistic approaches now and then, but I get such wonderful replies to my cultural comments that I will probably keep them in the mix.

It has been about a year and a half since I wandered this forum, been kicking back in Europa mostly. There I can walk into almost any bar or bistro and get right into an informed political discussion, so I haven't missed the name calling here much.

The swing back toward socialism in France has soured the taste of wine and added unpleasant odors of confiscatory taxation, however, so I am back just in time to see the two best financial and fiscal minds in politics at the top of the Republican ticket. Good times, good times!

:thumbsup:

 

[cybrsage]

Too bad techs is not mature enough to admit he was wrong about super pacs and affiliations.

 

[PJABBER]

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Post reported as second time for making outrageous claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

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Butthurt much?

LOL!

 

[Bowfinger]

No. You are wrong. I didn't swallow anything. The DNC and Obama's campaign are linked together along with this PAC that is run by one of Obama's minions. You are the one that is swallowing a load of crap. The Real Facts back me up.

Yes, I've already heard that accusation. Produce your so-called "Real Facts" to prove it. That you feel it must be true doesn't make it a fact.

Obama’s deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said she didn't know anything about it or who he was. She Lied. Period. I do not believe Debbie Wasserman either. Neither should you.

No sweetheart, you lied. She did NOT say that. She said she didn't know the details. Based on all the facts presented so far, your obedient outrage is tied solely to a semantics quibble over exactly what is meant by "details".


For the record, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is behind-the-scenes cooperation between the campaigns and the SuperPACs supporting them. Indeed, I assume that's likely the case. The difference between us, however, is that I'm not asserting as fact something I merely suspect is true. You lose all credibility when you cannot distinguish between your emotions and your factual knowledge.