DLP--really that bad or just not that good

[NEWKILLA]

morning guys,

was watching a 60" mitsi over a friends house yesterday and he had this unit
built into a wall giving the appearence of a flat screen and i have to say it
had a beautiful picture so my question is why don t more people have these?
is it like the bastard child or am i missing something
thanks
D

 

[ProfJohn]

I love my DLP.

Only complaint would be that it takes a few seconds to warm up before you get a bright picture and that in a bright room the screen is a little to dark, but LCDs have the same problem.

 

[slag]

ditto. .love my dlp and for the size/quality, it cannot be beat by plasma or lcd.

 

[Synomenon]

Our Samsung LED DLP is great.

 

[vi edit]

Viewing angles. Replacement bulbs. Depth of TV (can't wall mount). Not as buzzworthy as a "flat panel" TV. All those make DLP a less desireable choice.

 

[Synomenon]

Do LED DLPs need replacement bulbs?

 

[vi edit]

Do LED DLPs need replacement bulbs?

I don't think so, but there were very few of those made. Sony and I think JVC had them. But I think Mitsubishi is one of the only ones still mass producing DLP sets. And those use a bulb.

 

[Noubourne]

Very few people realize that you don't watch TV from the side.

I suspect they are not more popular because most viewers are not serious about their media, and do not work on creating a media space - rather they retrofit another living area for watching TV and movies - and so they end up having to sacrifice proper sized displays for the ability to hang it on a wall.

Most people's TVs are too small for the distances they view at.

 

[Muadib]

I don't think so, but there were very few of those made. Sony and I think JVC had them. But I think Mitsubishi is one of the only ones still mass producing DLP sets. And those use a bulb.

Sony & JVC used LCoS. I think Samsung was the only one to offer LED Dlp sets, and you were right about them not needing a bulb.

To the OP, DLP sets have fallen out of favor because of their depth size, and the fact that you have to change the bulb. Off angle viewing equals most LCD tvs, unless you have seats above or below the DLP set. The black levels of a DLP set are better than all but the new LED LCD tvs. LCD tvs are brighter & sharper though, at least out of the box.

 

[lotust]

my 42" sonly DLP 720p set looks the same to my 47" LG 120hz LCD set thats 1080p

 

[Muadib]

my 42" sonly DLP 720p set looks the same to my 47" LG 120hz LCD set thats 1080p

I'm 95% sure Sony never made a DLP. What model is it?

 

[Sureshot324]

I bought my 46" Samsung DLP a couple years ago because of the low price compared to similarly sized LCDs, and I love it so far. I've read a lot of people are having reliability problems with the Samsung DLP's (early bulb failure and color wheel failure) though so I am a bit concerned. A several hundred dollar repair for a TV I only paid around 900 for would hurt.

 

[wiretap]

I'm using a 46'' Samsung HLP4663W DLP in my living room. I think it was purchased in 2004. It still gives a better picture than most LCDs I've seen in person. I'm quite a picky HDTV watcher too. I rarely get the rainbow effect (biggest complaint of DLP's), and I've only had to replace the bulb one time. The original bulb lasted for about 12,500hrs and finally died not too long ago. The replacement bulb was $99 shipped (actually free under extended warranty though), and all you had to do was open the back panel, pop out the old one and pop in the new one. It sure beats trying to repair LCD's.. lol. Anyhow, there's no blurring during fast motion, it has deep blacks, perfect color replication, etc.

 

[erwos]

I'm 95% sure Sony never made a DLP. What model is it?

Is this going to devolve into "SXRD isn't DLP"? Because if not, Sony certainly made a DLP/SXRD. I've got one in my home theater room. Had to replace the bulb, but the damn thing was a complete steal at $1100 for 55".

 

[kalrith]

Very few people realize that you don't watch TV from the side.

I'm not sure about very few people, but you obviously don't realize that some people do watch TV from the side. Not everyone can have stadium seating for 6 people (as I'm sure you must since no one in your house ever watches TV from the side). Some people actually have two couches, one directly in front of the TV and one to the side. Obviously the couch directly in front of the TV is the best viewing position, but cannot accomodate 6 people, unless the 6 people are very friendly with each other.

 

[nickbits]

fan noise, colorwheel noise and expensive bulbs are why i got rid of mine

 

[sivart]

for front projection, DLP is awesome (plus no viewing angle problems). I'm happy with my 720p DLP Projector on a 100" screen

I like my Plasma 42", too.

The product with the best picture doesn't always mean that it is the most popular. People go for what is "cool." Case in point, CD's vs MP3's. MP3's are worse quality, but they are "cooler" to purchase.

 

[Ballatician]

Our Samsung DLP is still going strong and has a much better picture than any of the LCD's I have seen. No motion blur or artificial looking movement, good colors, HD sports look great. If your TV is going in a corner, it makes sense since a lot of that space behind the tv isnt being used anyway.

 

[NEWKILLA]

wow, thanks for the replies, i just purchased a 54" panny, and im thinking
on trying out the 60" DLP for the bedroom(lots of room)
thanks for the replies
D

 

[slackerinabox]

for front projection, DLP is awesome (plus no viewing angle problems). I'm happy with my 720p DLP Projector on a 100" screen

I like my Plasma 42", too.

The product with the best picture doesn't always mean that it is the most popular. People go for what is "cool." Case in point, CD's vs MP3's. MP3's are worse quality, but they are "cooler" to purchase.

uMM.. How are mp3s "cooler?" They're just more convenient and, well, easily obtainable for free...

DLP's old technology, simple as that... Plasmas and LCDs cost less to maintain and don't need a huge living room.. In fact, years ago forum nerds (poor people who live in basements and couldn't afford Plasma back then?) convinced me to get a DLP by mitsu that was far too big for the living room in question - in other words, Plasmas look great a few feet away from the screen. My DLP needed much more than that for it to look as sharp as intended. It would be GREAT if I had a large enough room - almost like a movie theater! But houses are getting smaller and smaller, and plasmas/lcds are cheap enough to make buying new bulbs for a DLP absolutely absurd.

But, yeah, go ahead and convince yourself that a $600 DLP that will have maintenance costs of a few hundred in bulbs every few years makes financial sense. I've since moved on and have a 50" plasma that costs me $500 on clearance years ago, and continues to work beautifully. I've owned all three and I'd be willing to go on an lcd vs plasma debate (go Plasma!), but lcd vs plasma vs DLP? That's just goofy... Heck, why not throw in CRT for the sake of debate? My sony 36" Wega CRT-HD had the best picture I've ever seen! In 1998

 

[sivart]

Yeah, you're right, my small 15x12 room I have for the 100" screen I have set up is hard to find in a house these days. My projector is 3 1/2 years old and I've spent $0.00 on bulbs during that time and have actually only used 1/3 of bulb's half life (time to half of original brightness).

Then again, I don't use this for everyday / casual TV viewing. I have a 42" Plasma for that and just can't get myself to buy an LCD (mainly because you get more bang for your buck with Plasma). When OLED is affordable, I might look at that.

Would I buy a rear projection DLP? Probably not, but would I buy a front projection for a big screen (I.e. > 73") without hesitation.

 

[JackBurton]

Yeah, you're right, my small 15x12 room I have for the 100" screen I have set up is hard to find in a house these days. My projector is 3 1/2 years old and I've spent $0.00 on bulbs during that time and have actually only used 1/3 of bulb's half life (time to half of original brightness).

Then again, I don't use this for everyday / casual TV viewing. I have a 42" Plasma for that and just can't get myself to buy an LCD (mainly because you get more bang for your buck with Plasma). When OLED is affordable, I might look at that.

Would I buy a rear projection DLP? Probably not, but would I buy a front projection for a big screen (I.e. > 73") without hesitation.

sivart, DLP front projectors are a different story. I think he is specifically talking about rear projection DLPs.

 

[mmntech]

This is purely my own opinion based on what I've seen but here's how I'd rate big screen TV technology.

CRT Projection > Plasma > DLP > LCD

DLP does produce an excellent picture. A lot of digital cinemas use it for projectors. However, replacement bulbs are quite costly and they are considerably larger. Some cheaper ones used to be prone to a rainbow effect from the colour wheel. It has hot, moving parts so I'd look into its lifespan as well.

 

[Muadib]

Is this going to devolve into "SXRD isn't DLP"? Because if not, Sony certainly made a DLP/SXRD. I've got one in my home theater room. Had to replace the bulb, but the damn thing was a complete steal at $1100 for 55".

Well yeah it was, but you ruined it!:twisted: They aren't the same, and calling it so is a pet peeve of mine. The same goes for so called LED tv sets!!!

 

[NEWKILLA]

my master is 30X30 so space is not an issue, and like
i stated before i just moved my old 52" pioneer elite so i just might go for one of the mitsi
just to try it out--shit--if i don t like it i can always return it, and i just noticed these puppys come in 60-65-73 and 82" if that doesn t piss the misses off nothing will,LoL