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Dixie Chicks still hurting after insulting Bush in 2003

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Dixie Chicks Get Personal On 'Long Way'

March 10, 2006, 12:00 PM ET

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
The Dixie Chicks will re-emerge late this spring with the most personal album of their career. Due May 23 via Open Wide/Columbia, "Taking the Long Way" opens with "Not Ready To Make Nice," which addresses the controversy that ensued in March 2003 after singer Natalie Maines criticized President George W. Bush. Afterward, a number of country stations refused to play the group's music.

Lyrics for the track, which was co-penned by the Chicks with former Semisonic leader Dan Wilson, are available at DixieChicks.com. "Forgive, sounds good / Forget, I'm not sure I could / They say time heals everything / But I'm still waiting," Maines sings.

"Taking the Long Way" was executive produced by Rick Rubin and finds the Chicks backed by such musicians as Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith, Heartbreakers members Benmont Tench and Mike Campbell and veteran session multi-instrumentalist Larry Knechtel. In addition to Wilson, who collaborated on six tracks, Pete Yorn and the Jayhawks' Gary Louris contributed to the songwriting.

"Everything felt more personal this time," Maines says. "I go back to songs we've done in the past and there's just more maturity, depth, intelligence on these. They just feel more grown-up."

Among the album's selections are "I Hope," a co-write with blues artist Keb' Mo' that served as a charity download for Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, "Everybody Knows," "Silent House" and "Lubbock or Leave It."


"Taking the Long Way" is the Chicks' first studio album since 2002's "Home," which debuted at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 and has sold more than 5.8 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

The group is expected to launch an all-arena trek in June, with details to be announced.

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Descent against even an unpopular leader has consequences, mostly in the mainstream and not the fringe. Being mainstream stars made them a huge target for criticism in 2003 when they insulted Bush on the eve of the Iraqi invasion.

As I like to say principles only mean something when they are inconvenient.

Apparently BORe (Bill O'Rilley) did a feature on them again and predicted their downward spiral to continue after their insult to Bush saw them loose quite a bit of fans and radio stations that refused to play their songs.

From their new album, if the single "Not Ready To Make Nice" is any indication should give them plenty of new fans both foreign and domestic while further alienating others. Check out all the talent that assisted them with making this album, simply amazing how varied it is and they sure sound more adult and serious then ever before.

Good for them. I never liked country very much but I like the Dixie Chicks a heck of a lot more then I ever did before and this song I provided a link to made an instant fan out of me.

I strongly recommend listening to the song. Enjoy.

P.S. If someone can find a better news article link it.

EDIT: A link to the song from the Dixie Chicks website.
 
how can i play this in FF? I'm guessing the main inhibitor is just the fact that my browser is being reported as FF and not IE
 
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Good to see some country standing up to bush since Johnny Cash is gone. 🙁

There will never be real musicians like him again for a long time though, seems country went from being real folk music to pop like everything else.

Anyhow best of luck to these chix, not really my thing though, too bad they waited for so long until opinion changed though.
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It's not that country went to pop really but the Dixie Chicks sound a lot more like pop (more then Shania). It's fairly obvious based on who helped them make the album. I think they hope to appeal to new fans. I worked in my case.

As far as why wait so long. I would assume it was not possible to get distribution until opinion changed in the public view.

That's my take on it anyway.
 
Originally posted by: magomago
how can i play this in FF? I'm guessing the main inhibitor is just the fact that my browser is being reported as FF and not IE
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I'm still looking for a music video for non IE users but I found another link to the song here.

Try that one.

Or go here. which also has the full song.

One of these should work.
 
Yeah, you have to walk a pretty fine line nowdays if you have a "risque" image unless you have a established name to get any radio play in the mainstream markets.
 
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah, you have to walk a pretty fine line nowdays unless you have a established name or have a "risque" image to get any radio play in the mainstream markets.
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Well they were established in country and very much popular when they were essentially dropped like a sack of potatoes.

The fact that they refuse to conform is what makes them warm to my heart. It's so much easier to conform and simply have two faces instead of standing up for what you think is right, especially when it can cost you your career.

Edit: Speaking of which I might end up loosing my job soon because of my principles. Seems there's little room for honesty these days and people rather look for good liars instead.... but that's enough about me.
 
Sorry to hear that, just remember, its the honest people who speak out who are remembered in life that think outside the box, even though you have to expect to take a few in the chin.
 
It sounds like it will be a good album. I'm just basing this on who they will be working with. I didn't know Rick Rubin did country.

It was kind of crappy that radio stations refused to play their music.
 
Originally posted by: eilute
It sounds like it will be a good album. I'm just basing this on who they will be working with. I didn't know Rick Rubin did country.

It was kind of crappy that radio stations refused to play their music.
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Yeah especially since they are the biggest selling female band in history. It gave them virtually no protection at all. I think how good they are is the only reason they are still around at all.
 
Americans say they want honesty, but what mainstream American actually appears to want is feel-good propaganda.

I hope the Dixie Chicks will write a song that says in effect: "We slammed Bush in 2003, and you punished us for it. Well, we were dead right and you were dead wrong. What do you have to say for yourself? If you want truth, buy our albums. If you want fairy tales, stick with Bush."
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine

NSFW Greeting from Mr. Cash
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Damn, american culture really needs more of him. Thats one thing these next few generations are gonna miss out on with commercial music/media is really stand out independent nonconformist personalities like Johnny Cash kicking against the pricks.

Ok I am way off topic.
 
Originally posted by: shira
Americans say they want honesty, but what mainstream American actually appears to want is feel-good propaganda.

I hope the Dixie Chicks will write a song that says in effect: "We slammed Bush in 2003, and you punished us for it. Well, we were dead right and you were dead wrong. What do you have to say for yourself? If you want truth, buy our albums. If you want fairy tales, stick with Bush."
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That's exactly what the song says if you listen to the words.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
how come there isn't the same outcry towards other artists like Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash? Both of which have been pretty anti-establishment and anti fascist there whole career, and the country folks love them.

NSFW Greeting from Mr. Cash
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Because everyone expects Cash to say things like that.

However when you have a feel good band that sounds like all the other feel good bands and they happen to be one of your #1 bands and they revolt... well that doesn't sit well. Their clout in public opinion but mostly in visibility and the damage it does to the credibility of politicians is what caused the firestorm.
 
yeah you have a point. if you are listening to johnny cash, you pretty much know what to expect. when it comes to the dixie chicks, i guess people just took them for mindless entertainers. i do blame the media for blowing the dc's statements out of purportion. i think orielly and co needed a distraction. cause the left gets flak for taking their entertainers too seriously, i guess the right is just as guilty.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
yeah you have a point. if you are listening to johnny cash, you pretty much know what to expect. when it comes to the dixie chicks, i guess people just took them for mindless entertainers. i do blame the media for blowing the dc's statements out of purportion. i think orielly and co needed a distraction. cause the left gets flak for taking their entertainers too seriously, i guess the right is just as guilty.
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Right on. They are all guilty of doing that. What nobody seems to take into consideration is what it does to the people caught in the crossfire such as the Dixie Chicks. I like using movie quotes.... "What does it cost these people to do this? Nothing. They get to go home and sleep at night."

Rings all too true.
 
I've been in the music business for awhile now and let me tell you conservatives like myself are often literally hated at local music scenes. I get the bird followed with "F*** BUSH", I get the stabbing motion with the "DIE YOU EVIL REPUBLICAN". I recall a show where I was talking with some people about my political views (which was brought up by them), and was told I was a Fvcking moron. The irony was that less than 30 minutes later those guys were dropping acid (I don't do drugs myself).

I'm telling you guys....based on a lot of experience...music of today is just filled with wackos. Drugs, music, and liberalism go hand-in-hand....which also brings down the quality of music (think the days of Artie Shaw and the big bands vs the crap weekly top40's of today). The dixie chicks are no exception to the rule.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I've been in the music business for awhile now and let me tell you conservatives like myself are often literally hated at local music scenes. I get the bird followed with "F*** BUSH", I get the stabbing motion with the "DIE YOU EVIL REPUBLICAN". I recall a show where I was talking with some people about my political views (which was brought up by them), and was told I was a Fvcking moron. The irony was that less than 30 minutes later those guys were dropping acid (I don't do drugs myself).

I'm telling you guys....based on a lot of experience...music of today is just filled with wackos. Drugs, music, and liberalism go hand-in-hand....which also brings down the quality of music (think the days of Artie Shaw and the big bands vs the crap weekly top40's of today). The dixie chicks are no exception to the rule.
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how old are you? you don't strike me as anyone who has been in any business for long. trust me the conservative bands have their problems too, ask ted nugent the sex addict.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I've been in the music business for awhile now and let me tell you conservatives like myself are often literally hated at local music scenes. I get the bird followed with "F*** BUSH", I get the stabbing motion with the "DIE YOU EVIL REPUBLICAN". I recall a show where I was talking with some people about my political views (which was brought up by them), and was told I was a Fvcking moron. The irony was that less than 30 minutes later those guys were dropping acid (I don't do drugs myself).

I'm telling you guys....based on a lot of experience...music of today is just filled with wackos. Drugs, music, and liberalism go hand-in-hand....which also brings down the quality of music (think the days of Artie Shaw and the big bands vs the crap weekly top40's of today). The dixie chicks are no exception to the rule.
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how old are you? you don't strike me as anyone who has been in any business for long. trust me the conservative bands have their problems too, ask ted nugent the sex addict.
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I'm 21 and i've been a part of it for 5 years. It's also part of the reason I don't care for liberals. The music scene is full of them and everyone I go they're all "blazin' it up", doing shrooms, complaining about bush, being unhappy, being promiscuous, etc.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I've been in the music business for awhile now and let me tell you conservatives like myself are often literally hated at local music scenes. I get the bird followed with "F*** BUSH", I get the stabbing motion with the "DIE YOU EVIL REPUBLICAN". I recall a show where I was talking with some people about my political views (which was brought up by them), and was told I was a Fvcking moron. The irony was that less than 30 minutes later those guys were dropping acid (I don't do drugs myself).

I'm telling you guys....based on a lot of experience...music of today is just filled with wackos. Drugs, music, and liberalism go hand-in-hand....which also brings down the quality of music (think the days of Artie Shaw and the big bands vs the crap weekly top40's of today). The dixie chicks are no exception to the rule. Like then, there is new breed of hippy emerging, but they're just whack'd out idiots, who will never become anything, unlike their predacessors.
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how old are you? you don't strike me as anyone who has been in any business for long. trust me the conservative bands have their problems too, ask ted nugent the sex addict.
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I'm 21 and i've been a part of it for 5 years. It's also part of the reason I don't care for liberals. The music scene is full of them and everyone I go they're all "blazin' it up", doing shrooms, complaining about bush, being unhappy, being promiscuous, etc.
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Kinda looks like when LBJ was in office, huh? Hippies, Rebels, Crack, Crank, Heroin, Weed, all complaining about our president. There is less promiscuity, however, since unlike the Viet Nam era, a simple shot will not cure all that ails ya. Penis-illin, doesn't fix it today.

The anti-establishment attitude of the youth today, is just a bunch of bitchin and moaning and black fingernail painting, piercing, tatooing, and hair spiking, but without solution. That's a bad thing. I've never had a problem with anyone coming out with a problem, as long as they also come out with a solution. This country, unless united to a purpose soon, is going straight down the tubes. We will become the "Divided States of Destruction" :shocked:
 
Unity is not one side shutting up and singing. Unity is a product of honest give and take to reach a common ground. You will not get unity simply by labeling dissenters unpatriotic. Democrats went along with Iraq war for fear of being labeled unpatriotic, but was it real unity? No. It was an illusion of one that fell apart as soon as things went sour.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I've been in the music business for awhile now and let me tell you conservatives like myself are often literally hated at local music scenes. I get the bird followed with "F*** BUSH", I get the stabbing motion with the "DIE YOU EVIL REPUBLICAN". I recall a show where I was talking with some people about my political views (which was brought up by them), and was told I was a Fvcking moron. The irony was that less than 30 minutes later those guys were dropping acid (I don't do drugs myself).

I'm telling you guys....based on a lot of experience...music of today is just filled with wackos. Drugs, music, and liberalism go hand-in-hand....which also brings down the quality of music (think the days of Artie Shaw and the big bands vs the crap weekly top40's of today). The dixie chicks are no exception to the rule.
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how old are you? you don't strike me as anyone who has been in any business for long. trust me the conservative bands have their problems too, ask ted nugent the sex addict.
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I'm 21 and i've been a part of it for 5 years. It's also part of the reason I don't care for liberals. The music scene is full of them and everyone I go they're all "blazin' it up", doing shrooms, complaining about bush, being unhappy, being promiscuous, etc.
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You mean like Elvis Presely who was a Special Narc under the Nixon Regime.


A lot of reasons Musicians, Actors and Artists in general don't like the current Administration and some of those of the past is due to their pandering to the Religious Right who want to censor them via the FCC and the like.

 
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