"Diversity" in America

Jack Ryan

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I dont want to get too wordy, so I will try to be brief and to the point.

Basically, people get on my nerves. Today's group is people who promote diversity as equality but execute it as special privileges.

Diversity is promoted regularly as a benefit to the organization because it brings people from different backgrounds/experiences to solve a problem, etc, etc. I totally agree with this statement. Unfortunately, my company only recognizes race, ethnicity, and gender as attributes that make someone "diverse".

Here are a couple things in my short career I have run into at work regarding the execution of "diverse" policies:

1) A minority or woman will get PREFERENTIAL treatment with regards to promotions/hirings. There are actually GOALS for executives to promote/hire a certain number.
2) A minority or woman owned business gets PREFERENTIAL treatment when selecting a supplier, etc. There are actually GOALS for executives to do business with a certain number.

How is choosing a candidate because they are not a white male any better than NOT choosing someone because they are not a white male?

This all came up because when promotion time came (my company promotes people in batches, they pile up all year and one guy starts signing when he feels like it), I knew I was getting promoted. I deserved it. I routinely performed above my level. (I was led on for 7 months but that is another story)

A "diverse" person, who routinely does NOT perform AT their level, let alone above it got promoted as well. Way to make me feel like my efforts are for naught. I guess being a white male requires EFFORT to be promoted.

Regardless, thanks for reading. Now I can go back to being spiteful at work.
 

rsd

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Not all places are like this.

So sh!t or get off the pot (e.g. find another job)
 

ImDonly1

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Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
How is choosing a candidate because they are not a white male any better than NOT choosing someone because they are not a white male?

That sentence confused the crap out of me.
 

wyvrn

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Yep agree with OP. The problem is until you have acceptence of diversity in society, you are going to have to force diversity in corp america in the forms of entitlements to minorities.
 

Jack Ryan

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Originally posted by: ImDonly1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
How is choosing a candidate because they are not a white male any better than NOT choosing someone because they are not a white male?

That sentence confused the crap out of me.

Yeah, sorry. Somehow that is how it flowed out of my brain.

In case there are others... I meant... How is choosing a candidate because they are a white male WORSE than choosing a candidate because they aren't a white male?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: ImDonly1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
How is choosing a candidate because they are not a white male any better than NOT choosing someone because they are not a white male?

That sentence confused the crap out of me.

Yeah, sorry. Somehow that is how it flowed out of my brain.

In case there are others... I meant... How is choosing a candidate because they are a white male WORSE than choosing a candidate because they aren't a white male?

The answer is: It isn't. The only thing is does is prevent managers with a heavy anti-minority bias from stopping all promotions of the mentioned group. OTOH, it promotes those that do not deserve it and is discrimination in itself. It somewhat solves one problem and creates another.

And yes, this is very common.
 

spidey07

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It's called discrimination and needs to be stopped.

However, it is so ingrained in legislation and bigotry/discrimination agains white mailes is OK, that it will be hard to stop.

If you want even more disgust, look at the hiring mandates of you local/state government. It's sickening.
 

BobDaMenkey

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I feel your pain Jack Ryan. Thankfully I haven't hit full corperate world yet (cubeland) but when I do, I know I'm going to be in for things like this.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
The answer is: It isn't. The only thing is does is prevent managers with a heavy anti-minority bias from stopping all promotions of the mentioned group. OTOH, it promotes those that do not deserve it and is discrimination in itself. It somewhat solves one problem and creates another.

And yes, this is very common.

Reminds me of what a friend told me:

His uncle(Asian) worked at a large firm, working his ass off. He excelled all other workers around him, but he was never promoted and his raises were minimal for the first five years. But suddenly, the upper management changed, and they found out about the history. They immediately bought him a new car ($40,000), and a promotion with a nice raise.

So it works both ways like SarcasticDwarf said.