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coolred

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Ubuntu and Kubuntu are basically the same OS, with ubuntu using gnome and kubuntu using KDE. Since ubuntu is ranked so much higher, can I infer gnome is more popular then kde?

Is there any other reason to choose one over the other?
 
That, or Kubuntu isn't as well known. If you ask someone what the most popular distro is, "Ubuntu" is the word that comes to mind.
 
Yea, I would agree with irishScott that it's just name recognition. I've heard some stories about KUbuntu screwing things up and that it's safer to just install Ubuntu and then install the KDE metapackage if you want KDE, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.

And actually one of the magazines I read recently gave Ubuntu their distro of the year award but gave KDE the award for best desktop and explained that KDE is much more popular than Gnome even though Ubuntu is the most popular distro right now.
 
Originally posted by: BlameCanada
I prefer Gnome, but I never dabbled too much in the KDE environment.

Is Beryl compatible with KDE?
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I think, and I don't know for sure because I don't use that stuff, it'll work-ish and better support is being worked on. Best to stick with Gnome right now. Please correct me though. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: coolred
Originally posted by: BlameCanada
I prefer Gnome, but I never dabbled too much in the KDE environment.

Is Beryl compatible with KDE?
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Good question, what is beryl exactly?
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Beryl is an OpenGL enhanced window manager. It's a bunch of fluff mostly.
 
Gnome is shipped with the majority of the installation CD's. If Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu isn't requested, Gnome will be default.
 
Is Beryl compatible with KDE?
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AFAIK Compiz/Beryl is it's own window manager so while you might be able to replace KWin with it, it won't be as integrated with KDE. And I believe KWin has some of it's own compositing support although I wouldn't be surprised if it's not as flashy as Compiz/Beryl since they're technology demos more than anything.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Is Beryl compatible with KDE?
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AFAIK Compiz/Beryl is it's own window manager so while you might be able to replace KWin with it, it won't be as integrated with KDE. And I believe KWin has some of it's own compositing support although I wouldn't be surprised if it's not as flashy as Compiz/Beryl since they're technology demos more than anything.
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Ahh I'm pretty sure you're right, I have it on my laptop and it allows me to switch between Beryl and Metacity. And yes Beryl is just fluff, but a little fluff never hurt anyone now did it?
 
And yes Beryl is just fluff, but a little fluff never hurt anyone now did it?
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When it takes away from other features that I use, yes. While it's true that adding compositing doesn't usually require the removal of other features, it's also true that Compiz/Beryl don't have features that I make good use of in my current window manager like window memory and interactive desktop thumbnails.
 
Depends on what you want. Some people like that stuff, other people not-so-much.

As for KDE integration...

There is nothing with Compiz and Beryl that make them KDE incompatable. People like to accuse compiz of being gnome-centric, but that is because the default set of plugins for Compiz include gconf support, which is Gnome's 'registry'. There is no reason why somebody can't write a KDE configuration plugin, but as far as I know nobody has done that yet.

I don't know about Beryl, they are off in bizzaro 'exploding flaming windows'-land and I have no clue what they are doing as far as configuration engines or desktop integration.

I don't think that KDE is very interested in support either thing either. They tend to have a very strong NIH syndrome.

But window managers are standardized nowadays. You have the EWMH which makes window hinting and other features standard across Metacity, KWM, OpenBox, and most other popular window managers. This effectively means that they are interchangable. If Beryl and/or Compiz has proper EWMH then aside from configuration tools these things should be a drop in replacement for the defaults in both KDE and gnome.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
And yes Beryl is just fluff, but a little fluff never hurt anyone now did it?
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When it takes away from other features that I use, yes. While it's true that adding compositing doesn't usually require the removal of other features, it's also true that Compiz/Beryl don't have features that I make good use of in my current window manager like window memory and interactive desktop thumbnails.
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what do you use and why?

because if i cant figure out this Xubuntu problem in the next day or two....and even if i can, i may like to try something else and see if i like it better.
 
what do you use and why?
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E16 because I don't like full desktops and the multiple desktop thumbnails it has are interactive, I can drag windows from one desktop to another via the thumbnails. I also use it's window memory to a lesser extent.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
what do you use and why?
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E16 because I don't like full desktops and the multiple desktop thumbnails it has are interactive, I can drag windows from one desktop to another via the thumbnails.
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You can do that with Beryl as well... can't you?
 
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