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Display isn't very "good", "Crisp" in Ubuntu

IamDavid

Diamond Member
I haven't ever seen Ubuntu istalled on another desktop so i have nothing to compare it to really but it seems a little sluggish maybe? Not sure how to describe it. I am so used to WinXP but I love most of what I've seen so far in Ubuntu, anything I'm missing? Are the default drivers set up in the normal install? Any tweaks, adjustments?

Thanks,
david
 
Did you do a hard drive install or are you running from a livecd? If you're running from the livecd then its not going to be as good as running from your hard drive. Try ati's prorprietary fglrx drivers instead of the one ubuntu supplies you with also. If you need instructions on how to install them, let me know.

Oh and as far as tweaks go, install either EasyUbuntu or Automatix. In fact, installing ati drivers with either of those packages would be a piece of cake. You could install dvd support, mp3 support, java support, and a load of other stuff as well. Its excellent for new users.

edit: What are your hardware specs btw? Amount of ram and cpu speed. Could help me determine if Gnome should be running sluggish or not.
 
As for the 'crispness' you mention in the subject (but not the post) sounds like your resolution aint matching your monitor's native resolution (presuming you have a tft). If it's a widescreen too (mine is 1680x1050)... well it will absolutely refuse to give you the res you want until you have installed your fglrx/nvidia drivers.
 
I have the same experience here. I've had Ubuntu on my laptop for a few months and as far the desktop goes XP is *much* faster than Ubuntu and a little more crisp. I'm running the latest ATI accelerated drivers but had the same experience with the ones installed by default. My resolution is at the default as well. So for me XP is definitely a little faster and more crisp but it's not that big of a deal to me. FWIW, I had the same experience with Fedora Core 4.
 
If your running gnome you can change the DPI of your screen and use the Microsoft webcore fonts (among others) to increase the 'sharpness' of your display. Probably the same for KDE, but I am familar with Gnome.

X tries to automaticly setup the dpi by itself, but it doesn't do a terrific job all the time.

Here is a font howto:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/

It'll tell you to install this font package or that font package, but I prefer by far to simply make a ~/.fonts directory. The ~/ is shorthand for your home directory and the . before the filename makes it hidden.
So you'd open up a terminal and type:
mkdir ~/.fonts
now move any true type font to it.
mv *.tff ~/.fonts

and that's it. All your applications and configurations should be able to use those fonts immediately.

Also don't worry about setting a 'improved freetype library' or anything like that. Just do the font settings for KDE or Gnome and that should be good enough.


Then look at that howto and it'll tell you how Microsoft has the fonts setup. You can copy it, or use it as a baseline, or choose whatever fonts you'd like.

Most distros will have various font packages you can install via apt-get or whatnot. I like the dustismo fonts personally.


After you get the fonts sorted out in the gnome font dialog box there is a 'advanced' button. Click that and then adjust the DPI for your screen. (it'll just affect GTK-using apps though. If your in KDE's directory it will only affect KDE's apps. The control dialog for kde would be kcontrol, and the control for Gnome would be gnome-font-properties)

It doesn't just affect fonts, but also the sizes of the title bars, and menu bars, and all that stuff.

Windows, I beleive uses 96dpi by default. On pre-OS X the default was 72dpi, I think that OS X sets that by default also, I am not sure.

So you can set it to Microsoft stuff and see how that compares or you can try to match the natural resolution of your screen.

For example 1600x1200 on a 21 inch monitor will have a 101dpi.

You can find a rough chart for it at http://www.scantips.com/basics1a.html

If you have gimp installed you can do stuff like make lines and then measure them. I beleive gimp has it's own dpi settings you can find in the preferences somewere.

Also gdesklets when you install it or run it for the first time will have a bar you can measure (with a ruler pressed against the screen) and it'll help you get a more accurate resolution.

As you know not all 19 inch monitors are the same size.. so it's going to differ a bit if you want total accuracy, but for most people getting it close is good enough.

The results will probably be more important on a LCD display rather then a CRT one.

Setting it correctly should improve the crispness and at least give you much better workable area on your display. Probably won't solve all your problems, but it can't hurt to set that up correctly.
 
Thanks guys, Here are my system specs:

MSI Neo2
64 3000+
512 DDR 3200
Radeon 9600Pro
22'' Gateway CRT Monitor @ 1600X1200 85hz : Same as when running in XP

I have the 386 version of Ubuntu installed instead of the 64 version..

I have now tried all in this thread. "Install accelerated Radeon (fglrx) drivers?" did help some but it still doesn't seem to be right. Maybe it's normal. I sure hope not, I would love to eliminate Windows..

 
Ubuntu should not run sluggish whatsoever on that pc.

Not sure what your display problem is. Could you capture it in a screenshot? It might be your monitor.
 
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
# paths to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "GLcore"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (R300 AP)"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "GatewayVX112"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (R300 AP)"
Monitor "GatewayVX112"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1920x1440" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
 
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (R300 AP)"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Been a while since I used ATI on a linux box, but shouldnt the driver="fglrx" if you have installed the fglrx module?

Seeing as how yourt monitor is CRT ignore my previous post.
 
Thanks Seeruk... I guess I didn't have it installed correctly. Much better now.. I'm an idiot.. lol
Can't wait for 6.0 to be released..
 
You're welcome... you aint an idiot... really its another of the millions of ease-of-use improvements that could be made... the package should do it for you 😀
 
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