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Dish Network vs DirecTV

trying to figure out which is best, located in ohio, we get snow, rain, etc. we are only looking for basic programming, our current cable is crap, but its only $50 a month, so basic + local is what we want.

HDTV not necessary.

which gives best channels on basic, and has the best options for a 4 room system?
do all basic setups come with DVR's now adays?
 
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
trying to figure out which is best, located in ohio, we get snow, rain, etc. we are only looking for basic programming, our current cable is crap, but its only $50 a month, so basic + local is what we want.

HDTV not necessary.

which gives best channels on basic, and has the best options for a 4 room system?
do all basic setups come with DVR's now adays?

I can't keep local channels working on my DirectTV receivers.

Is this a common problem with DirectTV?
 
i don't know if they changed this, but the reason i went w/ dish network way back when (i've since moved and went w/ digital cable) was because i had to purchase the HD/DVR box if i chose direct tv, whereas i could rent it from dish network for $5/mo.


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Our DirecTV blinks out 2-3 times a year because of the elements.

The big selling point for us was that DirecTV uses an American callcenter whereas Dish Network uses (used?) an Indian callcenter. I'll pay extra to talk to someone I can understand.

 
Originally posted by: theNEOone
i don't know if they changed this, but the reason i went w/ dish network way back when (i've since moved and went w/ digital cable) was because i had to purchase the HD/DVR box if i chose direct tv, whereas i could rent it from dish network for $5/mo.


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We own our DVR but DirecTV does charge $4.99/month for the service...which is better than Tivo's monthly fee. I didn't look into Dish because we already had DirecTV.

I have HBO and all the science/Discovery channels along with a DVR and an extra room for about $60/month. Getting Speed channel and the NFL Sunday ticket really sold me on DTV.

Never had any problems with reception, even on the local channels, but then I live in SoCal so we rarely get really bad storms here.
 
Four rooms with local channels on Dish Network will be $50/mo before any taxes. That's with no DVRs. Two DVRs (they don't offer 1 or 3) is $56, four is $62.

DirecTV will be $66 with one DVR, $60 with none. That's 4 rooms, a channel lineup similar to Dish Network's top 120, and locals.

My parents have Dish in Ohio and only get rain fade during serious downpours. Rain fade depends a lot on your installation, a solid installation helps quite a bit. They have no problems with snow.
 
Originally posted by: MrBond
Four rooms with local channels on Dish Network will be $50/mo before any taxes. That's with no DVRs. Two DVRs (they don't offer 1 or 3) is $56, four is $62.

DirecTV will be $66 with one DVR, $60 with none. That's 4 rooms, a channel lineup similar to Dish Network's top 120, and locals.

My parents have Dish in Ohio and only get rain fade during serious downpours. Rain fade depends a lot on your installation, a solid installation helps quite a bit. They have no problems with snow.

Heavy, wet snow will stick to the dish and cause a problem. I just spray the dish with Pam and that keeps the snow sliding off.
 
I'm a DirecTV technician, and I've seen some horrible install jobs at customers homes who previously had Dish. Not to mention I think our dishes look more clean and attractive than their Dish Network counterparts. The triple-sat ovals are pretty sexxxy. The D11 receivers that DirecTV uses now are tiny and silver, very nice looking. I don't know too much about the programming to tell you which is better, but if you have any questions about the installation side of it, feel free to PM me.
 
Originally posted by: mobobuff
I'm a DirecTV technician, and I've seen some horrible install jobs at customers homes who previously had Dish. Not to mention I think our dishes look more clean and attractive than their Dish Network counterparts. The triple-sat ovals are pretty sexxxy. The D11 receivers that DirecTV uses now are tiny and silver, very nice looking. I don't know too much about the programming to tell you which is better, but if you have any questions about the installation side of it, feel free to PM me.

An installer came out and said the reason we kept losing local channels was because of an old antenna. He changed it out to one with the fancy 3 LNB unit.

We still only get local channels once in a blue moon.

Any ideas?
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: MrBond
Four rooms with local channels on Dish Network will be $50/mo before any taxes. That's with no DVRs. Two DVRs (they don't offer 1 or 3) is $56, four is $62.

DirecTV will be $66 with one DVR, $60 with none. That's 4 rooms, a channel lineup similar to Dish Network's top 120, and locals.

My parents have Dish in Ohio and only get rain fade during serious downpours. Rain fade depends a lot on your installation, a solid installation helps quite a bit. They have no problems with snow.

Heavy, wet snow will stick to the dish and cause a problem. I just spray the dish with Pam and that keeps the snow sliding off.

What is this "snow" of which you speak?
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: mobobuff
I'm a DirecTV technician, and I've seen some horrible install jobs at customers homes who previously had Dish. Not to mention I think our dishes look more clean and attractive than their Dish Network counterparts. The triple-sat ovals are pretty sexxxy. The D11 receivers that DirecTV uses now are tiny and silver, very nice looking. I don't know too much about the programming to tell you which is better, but if you have any questions about the installation side of it, feel free to PM me.

An installer came out and said the reason we kept losing local channels was because of an old antenna. He changed it out to one with the fancy 3 LNB unit.

We still only get local channels once in a blue moon.

Any ideas?

Local channels come through on only one of the three LNBs. Here in Michigan it's 119, I don't know what it is for Oklahoma, if it's not 119 it's probably 110. But it sounds like something is blocking one side of the dish. You can get regular channels but no locals if a tree or building is in the way. You need 30 degrees of open sky, that's 15 degrees on either side of the arm, to be sure you can hit all three satellites. So it's most likely some tree branches. You'd either have to have the dish relocated or snip the major branches in the way.

A way to figure out which LNB is supposed to be getting your locals, would be to go into the signal meter on your receiver, and flip between the 3 satellites 101, 110, and 119. Whichever one is getting low or no signal, is the one that should be receiving your locals. If it's 119, check the sky to the right of the dish, if it's 101, check the sky to the left. If it's 110, look straight out in the direction that the arm is pointing. If the sky is completely clear and you're sure it's not a tree or anything in the way, then the dish might need to be re-aligned.
 
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: mobobuff
I'm a DirecTV technician, and I've seen some horrible install jobs at customers homes who previously had Dish. Not to mention I think our dishes look more clean and attractive than their Dish Network counterparts. The triple-sat ovals are pretty sexxxy. The D11 receivers that DirecTV uses now are tiny and silver, very nice looking. I don't know too much about the programming to tell you which is better, but if you have any questions about the installation side of it, feel free to PM me.

An installer came out and said the reason we kept losing local channels was because of an old antenna. He changed it out to one with the fancy 3 LNB unit.

We still only get local channels once in a blue moon.

Any ideas?

Local channels come through on only one of the three LNBs. Here in Michigan it's 119, I don't know what it is for Oklahoma, if it's not 119 it's probably 110. But it sounds like something is blocking one side of the dish. You can get regular channels but no locals if a tree or building is in the way. You need 30 degrees of open sky, that's 15 degrees on either side of the arm, to be sure you can hit all three satellites. So it's most likely some tree branches. You'd either have to have the dish relocated or snip the major branches in the way.

A way to figure out which LNB is supposed to be getting your locals, would be to go into the signal meter on your receiver, and flip between the 3 satellites 101, 110, and 119. Whichever one is getting low or no signal, is the one that should be receiving your locals. If it's 119, check the sky to the right of the dish, if it's 101, check the sky to the left. If it's 110, look straight out in the direction that the arm is pointing. If the sky is completely clear and you're sure it's not a tree or anything in the way, then the dish might need to be re-aligned.

Hi, thanks

Yes, it is 119.

Spoke with a nice lady at Directv in Boise Idaho a little while ago.

Looks like I have it narrowed down to being a problem with the multi-switch.

I had this sytem installed in February (actually my wife made the arrangements)

The Directv rep said since I did not subscribe for the $5.99 per month insurance policy that I am responsible for the defective multi-switch.

I am so fed up to my eyeballs with the business practices that Americans just accept as OK.

I will hunt down a multi-switch and replace it myself while complaining to the FTC even though it won't do any good.

Only a 2nd Revolution will help.
 
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