Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

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Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls
By Kim Sengupta in Ghazni, Afghanistan
Published: 29 November 2006

The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.

The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely. But his life was over, he was part-disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes, the remains put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls.

Mr Halim was one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taliban and US and Afghan forces.

The day we arrived, an Afghan policemen and eight insurgents died during an ambush in an outlying village. Rockets were found, primed to be fired into Ghazni City during a visit by the American ambassador a few days previously.

But, as in the rest of Afghanistan, it is the civilians who are bearing the brunt of this conflict. At the village of Qara Bagh, the family of Mr Halim are distraught and terrified. His cousin, Ahmed Gul, shook his head: "They killed him like an animal. No, no. We do not kill animals like that, it would be haram. They took away a father and a husband, they had no pity. We are all very worried. Please go now, you see those men standing over there? They are watching. It is dangerous for you, and for us."

Fatima Mushtaq, the director of education at Ghazni, has had repeated death threats, the notorious "night letters". Her gender, as well as her refusal to send girls home from school, has made her a particular source of hatred for Islamist zealots.

"I think they killed him that way to frighten us, otherwise why make a man suffer so much? Mohammed Halim and his family were good friends of ours and we are very, very upset by what has happened. He came to me when the threats first began and asked what he should do. I told him to move somewhere safe. I think he was trying to arrange that when they came and took him," she said.

The threats against Ms Mushtaq also extend to her husband, Sayyid Abdul, and their eight children. "When the first letters arrived, I tried to hide them from my husband," she said. "But then he found the next few. He said we must stand together. We talked, and we decided that we must tell the children. So that they can be prepared, but it is not a good way for them to grow up."

Ms Mushtaq is familiar with the ways of the Taliban. During their rule she and her sister ran secret schools for girls at their home. The Taliban beat them for teaching the girls algebra.

The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.

The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely. But his life was over, he was part-disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes, the remains put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls.

Mr Halim was one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taliban and US and Afghan forces.

The day we arrived, an Afghan policemen and eight insurgents died during an ambush in an outlying village. Rockets were found, primed to be fired into Ghazni City during a visit by the American ambassador a few days previously.

But, as in the rest of Afghanistan, it is the civilians who are bearing the brunt of this conflict. At the village of Qara Bagh, the family of Mr Halim are distraught and terrified. His cousin, Ahmed Gul, shook his head: "They killed him like an animal. No, no. We do not kill animals like that, it would be haram. They took away a father and a husband, they had no pity. We are all very worried. Please go now, you see those men standing over there? They are watching. It is dangerous for you, and for us."

Fatima Mushtaq, the director of education at Ghazni, has had repeated death threats, the notorious "night letters". Her gender, as well as her refusal to send girls home from school, has made her a particular source of hatred for Islamist zealots.

"I think they killed him that way to frighten us, otherwise why make a man suffer so much? Mohammed Halim and his family were good friends of ours and we are very, very upset by what has happened. He came to me when the threats first began and asked what he should do. I told him to move somewhere safe. I think he was trying to arrange that when they came and took him," she said.

The threats against Ms Mushtaq also extend to her husband, Sayyid Abdul, and their eight children. "When the first letters arrived, I tried to hide them from my husband," she said. "But then he found the next few. He said we must stand together. We talked, and we decided that we must tell the children. So that they can be prepared, but it is not a good way for them to grow up."

Ms Mushtaq is familiar with the ways of the Taliban. During their rule she and her sister ran secret schools for girls at their home. The Taliban beat them for teaching the girls algebra.
 

her209

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Obligatory "Turn the Middle East into a giant piece of glass" response.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: her209
Obligatory "Turn the Middle East into a giant piece of glass" response.

Not sure how that makes sense. They disembowelled the teacher for teaching girls, and you want to kill the girls and the guy's family?
 

DayLaPaul

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: her209
Obligatory "Turn the Middle East into a giant piece of glass" response.

Not sure how that makes sense. They disembowelled the teacher for teaching girls, and you want to kill the girls and the guy's family?

Not to mention that Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East.
 

bloodugly

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That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
 

her209

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Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.
 

compnovice

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.

Hasn't that already been done?
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: compnovice
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.

Hasn't that already been done?

no need for nukes when they are already in the stone age.
 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.

You mean make the middle east as uneducated, ignorant, and backwards as where you're at? That's pretty messed up, dude.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.
You mean make the middle east as uneducated, ignorant, and backwards as where you're at? That's pretty messed up, dude.
I'm in the US. Where are you?
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?

I actually predict that they will someday. I also predict that by the time that happens everyone posting on this board will have been dead for at least one thousand years.
 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.
You mean make the middle east as uneducated, ignorant, and backwards as where you're at? That's pretty messed up, dude.
I'm in the US. Where are you?

I'm in California. What trailer park are you at?
 

winr

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All people, male and female come from a Womens loins.

Without Women no one would exist.

Why has this happened in the past and present to make females second class citizens or even worse *I dont have a clue* (Edited).

All countrys east and west have done this sometime in their history.

I can only hope our predecessors will sicken of killing and beating each other into submission and learn to live together.

I try not to point fingers as this is a universal problem it will take all of working together to solve.

I also think that all people are not evil and that a small minority of people cause a lot of trouble for us all.


EDIT:

If we were all 6 feet tall, weighed exactly 160 lb's and had green skin someone would notice a slight difference in our greenness and dominate the ones with the difference.


:(



 

Azndude51

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"..then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes"

I can't believe that stuff still happens
 

her209

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.
You mean make the middle east as uneducated, ignorant, and backwards as where you're at? That's pretty messed up, dude.
I'm in the US. Where are you?
I'm in California.
Your profile disagrees with you.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.
You mean make the middle east as uneducated, ignorant, and backwards as where you're at? That's pretty messed up, dude.
I'm in the US. Where are you?

I'm in California. What trailer park are you at?

Probably somewhere smart enough to not end a sentence in a preposition so many times.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: bloodugly
That whole region has issues....sure we could nuke them back to the stoneage, but but...goddamn, why can't these fxckers just have some common sense and work it out?
Because they need to be nuked back into the stone age.

its not like they're very far from the stone age...
 

DaShen

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:( I hate ignorance!!! This kind of stuff is just ridiculous. Education and knowledge are the only ways past ignorance, but it is the one thing they are trying to stop! :|
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: winr
All people, male and female come from a Womens loins.

Without Women no one would exist.

Why has this happened in the past and present to make females second class citizens or even worse *I dont have a clue* (Edited).

All countrys east and west have done this sometime in their history.

I can only hope our predecessors will sicken of killing and beating each other into submission and learn to live together.

I try not to point fingers as this is a universal problem it will take all of working together to solve.

I also think that all people are not evil and that a small minority of people cause a lot of trouble for us all.


EDIT:

If we were all 6 feet tall, weighed exactly 160 lb's and had green skin someone would notice a slight difference in our greenness and dominate the ones with the difference.


:(

It boils down to control and producing offspring. When a male of a species controls the female thier genes are going to be the one passed down rather than others, which is why so many species fight before mating to prove thier worth. Humans have the ability to put this instinct aside, however many cultures choose not to as controlling thier mates is something that seems natural to them.