Discussion on Cyberstalking

[irishScott]

Like me to make up persomal lies about you and your wife and post after every one of your posts? Sounds like you would like too.

Care to join the list?

I once again extend my offer for you to do so about me however much you like, if you'd like to see how an adult deals with such things.

 

[dmcowen674]

Please post links and quotes to back up your claims or STFU!!!!!!

I don't have to do jack shit other than do to you and lopped what you do to me.

 

[xBiffx]

Both you and lopped lie about the price of gas in Chicago especially since your asses aren't here.

You must be fucking kidding.

$6 for downtown Chicago of course

1-16-2012

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/16/markets/gas_prices/index.htm?source=cnn_bin

You post a flat out lie and your own link calls you on it. Talk about getting mcowned.

You can't go around lying and call others out on it and then claim you are the victim of lying. You really need to check back with your doctor and get your meds adjusted.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Is this for real? lmoa
Stalking on Twitter is legal. Glad to see it here on this site and been taken seriously cause I was banned at Tomsadware for lashing out at a stalker. Part of it was my own fault for using the same user name I used on other sites.

The bloke is still there while I got a perma ban. Lesson learned I might say

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't have to do jack shit other than do to you and lopped what you do to me.

Please find where I've lied about gas prices and post the links/quotes for all to see or SDASTFU!!!!!

 

[dmcowen674]

You must be fucking kidding.

You post a flat out lie and your own link calls you on it. Talk about getting mcowned.

You can't go around lying and call others out on it and then claim you are the victim of lying. You really need to check back with your doctor and get your meds adjusted.

and you must learn how to fucking read because clearly you are deficient.

 

[xBiffx]

and you must learn how to fucking read because clearly you are deficient.

From your own link.

Some cities could experience record prices by Memorial Day, GasBuddy says, with Chicago residents paying up to $4.95 a gallon and New Yorkers shelling out up to $4.55.

I can read fine. $4.95 != $6. I know exactly what the prices in Chicago are and have been. They have never been over $5. I know, I used to go there once a week for years on business and I have friends and family living there. Here is a link if you don't believe me.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Clearly, you are deficient, and its not just in reading comprehension either.

 

[Skitzer]

Dave, you have finally gone off the deep end my friend.
Hope you get better.

 

[cybrsage]

I think it should be rather simple, though not easy, to show if someone is stalking you. Since the search feature is working again (impossible to do when it was down), you just search for your own posts and then look at the ones after it. Copy and paste the URL of each post into textpad to make an easy to reference list. After you get a bunch (I would say at least 5), make a post and put all the URLs down.

For example, a certain member kept going into threads where I was posting and posting off topic comments about a forum I was on over a decade ago. He had started to make it a habit, so I started recording the URL to each of his posts. After calling him out in one thread as a stalking and saying if he continued I would call on the mods, he stopped. Had he not, I would have had 4 examples to show them.

So all you need to do is record the URLs of the stalking posts and put them all in a post. Go ahead and do it in this one if you wish, or in a post in the moderator's forum. Most of the mods do not get angry when you question their motives (some do, but that is human nature - no big deal). You will find they are fair, even when you do not agree with them and they are punishing you.

 

[randomrogue]

This is really sad. Dave I really hope you pull through. You married? You should really get your wife to help you. Get one of those weekly pill boxes so that she can administer them evenly and at the correct times. Best of luck.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Instead of stalking why not tell the guy straight OI! I don't fucking like you!
Then you can reply: Like I give a fuck!

Just words on a screen nothing more nothing less

 

[Doppel]

Here are my thoughts at this time:

• This is not a thread about cyberstalking, but rather a moderator discussions or personal issues-type thread with dmcowen playing the victim card again. It seems he made an earlier attempt in the mod forums and was summarily dismissed. That he was told in the open mic thread to please not make it a thread about him, but continued to do it anyway, and now has his own thread is proof positive that he is given absolutely all the leeway one could ever hope for. I imagine if the rest of us pulled such a stunt we'd be banned, as we should be.
• It's morbidly fascinating watching mcowen self-destruct over this matter. If there was ever a better example of why mcowen should be forbidden from interacting on P&N it's his juvenile rage expressed over the past couple of days here. He's even taken to baiting this morning in the gas thread and lashing out in the capitalism thread.
• Consistently getting the simply-spelled name wrong of somebody who you claim to be stalking you is noteworthy
• Although I cannot speak for lopped, since him and I share similar names I will try my best: If mcowned wants lopped to stop calling him out on lies, he need simply stop lying. It really is that simple. A two step process: 1) Don't tell a lie, 2) lopped won't quote your lie and prove with a link how it is a lie
• Mcowned has a storied history of calling people who accuse him of lying liars, even if they have proof of his lie--even if the proof of his lie was in the very link he provided in the post in which he lied (this has happened many times)
• The vast majority of posts lopped responds to mcowned are in P&N. The vast majority of those are in the gas thread, in which lopped has documented literally dozens of obvious lies. Main reason being they're so easy to do and take no effort. Conclusion: lopped's "stalking" is nothing more than mcowned being called out on lies.. Essentially, he is asking the moderators to be given free reign on lying and not having people call him out on them. The moderators have obviously denied this request and thus his fury grows.
• Again, I really cannot speak for lopped, but as I feel a certain connection with him, I'll go out on a limb and say that he has never so much as attempted to contact mcowned outside of AT. Further, he has never posted even an inkling of private information about mcowned not known by all on such sites as freemcowen.com. All evidence of this is viewable by thousands on the public AT forums.
• I have seen no examples in which lopped has made up "personal lies" about mcowen's wife. That's not to say there are not 1-2 posts (there may be, I have no idea, but will assume not unless they're posted (?)) in which surprise was expressed that somebody is married to him.
• Mcowned cannot be convinced of anything by anybody and thus I wrote the above for others in this thread, not for him. In my estimation his problems go far beyond this thread or AT in general, and looking for solutions to them here is a dead end.

Oh, and back to the thread title. Cyberstalking. With more surveillance of our lives and more information digitized and indexed it is surely getting easier for cyberstalkers. Many people voluntarily make it easy, too; look at all the things people share on Facebook, for example?

 

[randomrogue]

On topic - the internet scares me. You can look up all kinds of things that go way beyond a google search. Depending on where you live you might even be able to look up someone's actual income.

People actually do "background checks" on the internet of people they're thinking of dating now. I find that incredibly creepy.

 

[Idontcare]

This is not a thread about cyberstalking, but rather a moderator discussions or personal issues-type thread with dmcowen playing the victim card again.

It really was supposed to be about cyberstalking, I take dmcowen674's claims as seriously as I would anyone else's claims of being the victim of a crime.

But I also take it serious when people falsely cry wolf. Those that would make a mockery of the justice system and the rights of actual victims by falsely claiming to be one themselves only as a means to passive-aggressively attack another individual.

It is up to dmcowen674 to prove which is the case here. He's made his claims, now it is time to prove they are not baseless.

In the meantime, I am thinking maybe this thread should be moved to L&R or Moderator Discussions. It is definitely not P&N.

But yes, the topic of cyberstalking is supposed to be discussed within this thread, and that discussion includes defining what is and what is not cyberstalking.

It is not cyberstalking to find oneself in the position of repeatedly countering untruths, misinformation, and lies of a specific individual who seems to have a propensity to post such.

That is called "meeting on a forum", and it takes two to do that:

fo·rum/ˈfôrəm/
Noun:

• A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
• An Internet message board.

Administrator Idontcare

 

[WelshBloke]

It really was supposed to be about cyberstalking, I take dmcowen674's claims as seriously as I would anyone else's claims of being the victim of a crime.

But I also take it serious when people falsely cry wolf. Those that would make a mockery of the justice system and the rights of actual victims by falsely claiming to be one themselves only as a means to passive-aggressively attack another individual.

It is up to dmcowen674 to prove which is the case here. He's made his claims, now it is time to prove they are not baseless.

In the meantime, I am thinking maybe this thread should be moved to L&R or Moderator Discussions. It is definitely not P&N.

But yes, the topic of cyberstalking is supposed to be discussed within this thread, and that discussion includes defining what is and what is not cyberstalking.

It is not cyberstalking to find oneself in the position of repeatedly countering untruths, misinformation, and lies of a specific individual who seems to have a propensity to post such.

That is called "meeting on a forum", and it takes two to do that:


Administrator Idontcare

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[Londo_Jowo]

I don't have to do jack shit other than do to you and lopped what you do to me.

According to idontcare's post you better start finding the threads/quotes that back up you claims.

Looks like to me you've McOwned yourself yet again.

 

[WelshBloke]

I've definitely not seen anything that bares any resemblance to stalking or cyberstalking in this thread.

Now lots of people here have wildly differing opinions and some people here have "challenging" personalities but to call behaviour here stalking is a stretch.

For me, for it to constitute stalking it would have to move outside the forum.

 

[Ausm]

Jesus you guys are beating on Dave like a rented Mule...He does make some good points as Perknose has listed in the original thread this new topic came from.

Dave, I never really had to deal with people stalking my threads but I have had to deal with the relentless attacks of the Rabid Right in here so I can relate to that. Don't let the people on this forum who treat you like shit get you down. I treat this forum like work...when I log off or leave work then I don't take my problems with me.

 

[xBiffx]

Jesus you guys are beating on Dave like a rented Mule...He does make some good points as Perknose has listed in the original thread this new topic came from.

Dave, I never really had to deal with people stalking my threads but I have had to deal with the relentless attacks of the Rabid Right in here so I can relate to that. Don't let the people on this forum who treat you like shit get you down. I treat this forum like work...when I log off or leave work then I don't my problems with me.

Poor Dave and poor you. You are acting like he hasn't brought some of this upon himself. Same goes for you. When he and you post shit with the intention of stirring up the crowd you can't play the victim when that is exactly what happens. "relentless attacks of the Rapid Right", that statement right there is exactly what I am talking about. There are plenty of other, less provocative ways you could convey the same thing but your intention is to invoke a response, and then you whine about it when you get such a response. Playing the victim does not suit you or him since you play the instigator far too often to be called a victim of attack.

 

[Ausm]

Poor Dave and poor you. You are acting like he hasn't brought some of this upon himself. Same goes for you. When he and you post shit with the intention of stirring up the crowd you can't play the victim when that is exactly what happens. "relentless attacks of the Rapid Right", that statement right there is exactly what I am talking about. There are plenty of ways you could say the same thing but your intention is to invoke a response, and then you whine about it when you get such a response. Playing the victim does not suit you or him since you play the instigator far too often to be called a victim of attack.

Ummm I post threads of stupid shit your party does so then you get pissed at me?? oooookkk Sorry for bringing you into reality and sorry you can handle the truth For the record, you can be the first Right Wing fucking douchebag in here who can kiss my fucking ass....

 

[xBiffx]

Ummm I post threads of stupid shit your party does so then you get pissed at me?? oooookkk Sorry for bringing you into reality and sorry you can handle the truth For the record, you can be the first Right Wing fucking douchebag in here who can kiss my fucking ass....

I am not talking about the content of your messages, Lord knows both sides need a good talking to once and while about their issues. I am talking about the way you convey your message. You can't simply state a claim in plain, calm, non combative and non provocative tone. You always do the opposite because, this is my opinion of course, your goal is to provoke a fight from the other side of the issue you post about. Then, instead of debating the issue, its a shitstorm back and forth. It does a great disservice to you and your message because your original message is lost in the shit and then no one can take you seriously. I like to hear your view from time to time but you really need to work on delivery if you want people to listen to your message and think about it rather than just immediately disregard it because of the tone, which usually involves an insult.

Thanks for making this point easy for me with the bolded part of your message from your reply. This is exactly what I am talking about. You really think others listen to your message with tone like that?

 

[Lemon law]

Still, dmcowen674 raises an issue not unique to just himself, but this forum somehow turns it into a only bash dmcowen674 thread while ignoring some real issues of fairness???

The old Greek logic, if we kill the messenger, that message never happened.

 

[Ausm]

I am not talking about the content of your messages, Lord knows both sides need a good talking to once and while about their issues. I am talking about the way you convey your message. You can't simply state a claim in plain, calm, non combative and non provocative tone. You always do the opposite because, this is my opinion of course, your goal is to provoke a fight from the other side of the issue you post about. Then, instead of debating the issue, its a shitstorm back and forth. It does a great disservice to you and your message because your original message is lost in the shit and then no one can take you seriously. I like to hear your view from time to time but you really need to work on delivery if you want people to listen to your message and think about it rather than just immediately disregard it because of the tone, which usually involves an insult.

Thanks for making this point easy for me with the bolded part of your message from your reply. This is exactly what I am talking about. You really think others listen to your message with tone like that?

Umm my tone? Your posts aren't exactly very rosey and you constantly stoop to personal attacks so you really have very little room to critique my posts.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Still, dmcowen674 raises an issue not unique to just himself, but this forum somehow turns it into a only bash dmcowen674 thread while ignoring some real issues of fairness???

The old Greek logic, if we kill the messenger, that message never happened.

I've read these forums for years (long before my listed start date), and I can tell you that I've not personally witnessed any "cyberstalking" of Dave on these boards. Rather, Dave will make a post and as shown in the gas post referenced earlier in this thread, his post is full of inaccuracies (at best) or outright lies (at worst). If I see posts like that, I will call him on it. As a matter-of-fact, Dave's posts were one of the factors in me actually finally signing up to post on AT, as he was posting misinformation and I felt I needed to counter it.

As someone said earlier, Dave needs to look at his posting style and the content of his posts before pointing the finger at others. I mean seriously, making a post with the headline of "Gas is $6 in Chicago" and then, for proof, linking an article showing it is nowhere near that and he gets mad people call him on it? Seriously?

I used to feel bad for Dave to some extent but not any longer. There comes a point when you have to stop being the victim and do something to help yourself.

 

[dmcowen674]

I mean seriously, making a post with the headline of "Gas is $6 in Chicago"

Nothing wrong with my posts.

People like you have to go back to school to learn how to read.

I did not make a post saying gas was $6 in Chicago.

I opined on the article saying that when gas is $5 in the rest of the country that means it WILL closer to $6 here in Chicago.

It's in black and white for those that know how to read to see.

Go to school, you missed a lot. Bush and his no child left behind sure left you behind.