Discovered I HATE Japanese food

Fritzo

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I am admittedly weak on Japanese cuisine...there's just not a lot of places around here where you can try it. I used to be a chef, and have no fear of food at all (I'm mostly expert in European cooking), but I finally met my match. We went to a new place near us called Nagoya, which is a 4 star Japanese steak and sushi house, with hibachi cooks at every table. The presentation was fantastic, the food was beautiful (it had garnishes like shredded beats, edible flowers, etc), but the taste was so foreign and unfamiliar is bordered on vile.

I did some research before we went, and found that (being an island) Japanese cooking is heavily based on seafood, sea plants, and different kinds of curds. Knowing this going in, I went for a lot of staples to get myself acquainted:

Started with miso soup- it looked like a watery mashed bean soup with chunks of tofu on the bottom and kelp leaves floating around. I understand they eat this like chicken soup in the US. However, the taste was not unlike licking the algae off the inside of a fish tank, and then washing it down by sucking on a dirty dishrag. I couldn't take more than 2 bites. My wife did 3 or 4, and she was done as well.

Next we were served a salad with a "dressing" on it consisting of mashed soy, grated orange peel, and minced sardine. My wife found this inedible after one bite. I found it a little less nasty than the miso, but still difficult to finish.

For the main course, my wife played it safe with teriyaki tuna. It was served with sticky rice, wasabi bean sprouts, and pan seared summer vegetables. It was actually not bad.

I went a little more authentic, since I wanted the full experience. I ordered Chicken Batayaki, which the chef informed me is the best thing on the menu. It consisted of thin sliced chicken, rolled with spinach and cream cheese, coated with an almond crumb crust. It is then fried, sliced into large "sushi" like shapes, and covered with a coconut cream sauce. The meal itself looked like a work of art, but the bitter, sweet, rich, and earthy flavors of everything meshing together was put together in my brain as RANCID. I think it would have been better without the sauce they drowned it in- it looked more like Chicken Bukkakke <sp?>.

For desert, they gave us cucumber ice cream. WTF???? Sorry Japan, I thought English food was bad, but DAYUM! I was out $70 + tip for some god-awful food. It must be good to some people, because the place is packed every night. Just not my cup of tea I guess.
 

effowe

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I just learned that I don't like Peruvian food, but I'm totally down with the Japanese flavors.
 

nageov3t

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I'm with you... I like sushi and most cooked japanese fish as long as it's kept relatively simple (my local japanese take-out place serves grilled mackerel with rice and edamame; I could eat that every day), but beyond that, I don't care for most japanese dishes.

I have a friend who eats miso soup every day and idgi.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Looking at their menu, the only thing that comes close to being Japanese food is the traditional lunch menu.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Looking at their menu, the only thing that comes close to being Japanese food is the traditional lunch menu.

Really? The place was full of Japanese families (or at least Asian...I can't tell the difference lol). It's very upscale, so I'm sure they're fancier than the normal fare.
 

kami333

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I wouldn't call any of that Japanese, maybe the miso soup but I've seen a lot of places butcher it to the point where instant miso soup tastes better.
 

DaveSimmons

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You need to stick with the junk food: instant noodles, Pocky & Pretz, teriyaki chicken & rice...
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I am admittedly weak on Japanese cuisine...there's just not a lot of places around here where you can try it. I used to be a chef, and have no fear of food at all (I'm mostly expert in European cooking), but I finally met my match. We went to a new place near us called Nagoya, which is a 4 star Japanese steak and sushi house, with hibachi cooks at every table. The presentation was fantastic, the food was beautiful (it had garnishes like shredded beats, edible flowers, etc), but the taste was so foreign and unfamiliar is bordered on vile.

I did some research before we went, and found that (being an island) Japanese cooking is heavily based on seafood, sea plants, and different kinds of curds. Knowing this going in, I went for a lot of staples to get myself acquainted:

Started with miso soup- it looked like a watery mashed bean soup with chunks of tofu on the bottom and kelp leaves floating around. I understand they eat this like chicken soup in the US. However, the taste was not unlike licking the algae off the inside of a fish tank, and then washing it down by sucking on a dirty dishrag. I couldn't take more than 2 bites. My wife did 3 or 4, and she was done as well.

Next we were served a salad with a "dressing" on it consisting of mashed soy, grated orange peel, and minced sardine. My wife found this inedible after one bite. I found it a little less nasty than the miso, but still difficult to finish.

For the main course, my wife played it safe with teriyaki tuna. It was served with sticky rice, wasabi bean sprouts, and pan seared summer vegetables. It was actually not bad.

I went a little more authentic, since I wanted the full experience. I ordered Chicken Batayaki, which the chef informed me is the best thing on the menu. It consisted of thin sliced chicken, rolled with spinach and cream cheese, coated with an almond crumb crust. It is then fried, sliced into large "sushi" like shapes, and covered with a coconut cream sauce. The meal itself looked like a work of art, but the bitter, sweet, rich, and earthy flavors of everything meshing together was put together in my brain as RANCID. I think it would have been better without the sauce they drowned it in- it looked more like Chicken Bukkakke <sp?>.

For desert, they gave us cucumber ice cream. WTF???? Sorry Japan, I thought English food was bad, but DAYUM! I was out $70 + tip for some god-awful food. It must be good to some people, because the place is packed every night. Just not my cup of tea I guess.

lol that is not "Japanese" food

tipoff: Owners Mel and Barb Ayers
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Looking at their menu, the only thing that comes close to being Japanese food is the traditional lunch menu.

Really? The place was full of Japanese families (or at least Asian...I can't tell the difference lol). It's very upscale, so I'm sure they're fancier than the normal fare.

If you're talking about traditional Japanese food then, yes, really.

Think okonomiyaki, donburi, korokke, ramen, udon, somen, sushi, takoyaki, ikayaki, yakiniku, monjayaki, sushi without ridiculous ingredients added, sashimi, kushikatsu, etc.

Hell, even real teriyaki is different (most of the time) in America (read: not as good).
 

El Guaraguao

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
You need to stick with the junk food: instant noodles, Pocky & Pretz, frozen sams brand, teriyaki chicken & rice...

This and fixed.

 

Ns1

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I skimmed that and all I can say is find a real japanese restaurant.
 

evident

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i'm not a fan of japanese udon noodles and the way they were served here, except for maybe one variation where there was a thick curry being used to serve. thats probably because i'm vietnamese and pho, and the lesser known bun's are vastly superior to udon noodles in every single way :)
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Bul-gogi FTMFW

Isn't that Korean?

It's listed under "Japanese" at the particular establishment that I frequent;)

I also have an issue with their $70 side orders as well*


*the menu labeling is a disaster
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Insomniator
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Bul-gogi FTMFW

Isn't that Korean?

It's listed under "Japanese" at the particular establishment that I frequent;)

I also have an issue with their $70 side orders as well*


*the menu labeling is a disaster

your particular establishment is crap if they list bulgolgi as japanese