Disabled hyper threading 5 days ago

Link19

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Remember, as some of you may be aware that I had random system reboots occasionally. Sometimes it would happen on a cold boot up, and other times just out of no where. The random restarts started to become a little more frequent than they used to be, so I decided to swap out my video card for another one, and still, same thing except the random reboots seemed to be worse with the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 video card in place of my Radeon 9800 Pro. With the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 video card temporarilly in my system, I experienced a blue screen just before the Windows was about to load for less than a second, and the screen went blank. So, I knew right away that the problem is not my video card. I decided that I would try lowering the CPU external clock frequency to see if it does it then. Then at the last minute, I just thought I'd try disabling hyper threading first and see how my system runs with HT disabled. I disabled hyper threading 5 days ago, and since my system has ran without any BSODs or random reboots. I put my Radeon 9800 Pro video card back in a couple of hours after I disabled HT, and everything is running perfectly with HT disabled. So, now it looks like the problem has something to do with hyper threading. So, what could be the cause of hyper threading causing my system to randomly restart? I have done some research and heard that certain device drivers don't work very stable with SMP systems which is what HT is supposed to logically pretend to be. So do you think that is likely the cause to my random system reboots when HT is enabled?

My system specs are as follows:

-Pentium 4 3GHz Canterwood CPU (socket 478) w/800MHz FSB and 512KB L2 cache
-Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 motherboard w Intel 875P Northbridge chipset and ICH5R Southbridge chipset
-2*512MB DIMMs of PC3200 Corsair XMS DDR SDRAM DIMMs (in dual channel config for 1GB of total system RAM)

-Built by ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 8X AGP video card (128MB DDR)
-On board Intel Pro 100 LAN controller
-Onboard AC 97 Audio
-2 Seagate SATA HDDs. one is 80GB with the OS installed on it and the other is 120GB. Both connected to onboard Intel 82801ER SATA RAID controller connected to Port_0 and Port_1 respectively

-550WATT Trie Power ANtec PSU

-WIndows XP Pro w/SP1 and latest security updates installed.

 

Mik3y

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you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. ;)
 

sandorski

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Make sure you have the latest BIOS for your motherboard and(though it probably won't matter) instal SP2 for Win XP.
 

bgeh

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canterwood = i875 chipset
that's unless i've forgotten most of the stuff.....been a long time since i've been here:D
 

stevty2889

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Yes canterwood is the 875 chipset, the proccessor is a northwood. Not sure why you would have problems with Hyperthreading enabled. I have the same motherboard with a 3.06ghz P4 and have not had any issues with the hyperthreading enabled. I also have an ATI card, 1.5Ggig for ram, and I am using a SATA drive with it, so our systems are somewhat similar. Maybe you should try a BIOS upadate, only thing I can think of that might help.
 

KenSr

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Just curious, Do you have your cpu overclocked?
I was wondering if that would have anything to do with the H/T problem.

Ken
 

Link19

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I don't have my CPU overclocked at all. I have the latest motherboard BIOS and all the latest drivers for every device on my system. I don't want to install Windows XP Service Pack 2 yet as I've heard about many compatibility problems with it. I also don't need a software firewall as I have a hardware firewall being a NAT/router.
 

Link19

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

What do you mean by saying so the thread becomes transport? WIll that help with the random system reboots and BSODs when hyper threading is enabled.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Link19
<blockquote>quote:
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Mik3y</b></i>
you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>

What do you mean by saying so the thread becomes transport? WIll that help with the random system reboots and BSODs when hyper threading is enabled.

he is saying get an athlon64
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: Link19
<blockquote>quote:
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Mik3y</b></i>
you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>

What do you mean by saying so the thread becomes transport? WIll that help with the random system reboots and BSODs when hyper threading is enabled.
Don't mind him, he's implying that you should switch to an AMD CPU. Keep in mind that this is coming from the same character that says that one CPU would "gangrape" another. :roll:

It's pretty odd that turning off HT would do anything to performance, check to make sure both your CPU and northbridge heatsinks are firmly attached. It sounds like a heat issue to me more than anything.
 

Link19

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
<blockquote>quote:
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Link19</b></i>
<blockquote>quote:
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Mik3y</b></i>
you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>

What do you mean by saying so the thread becomes transport? WIll that help with the random system reboots and BSODs when hyper threading is enabled.<hr></blockquote>
Don't mind him, he's implying that you should switch to an AMD CPU. Keep in mind that this is coming from the same character that says that one CPU would "gangrape" another. <img src="i/expressions/anim_roller.gif" border="0">

It's pretty odd that turning off HT would do anything to performance, check to make sure both your CPU and northbridge heatsinks are firmly attached. It sounds like a heat issue to me more than anything.

It is not a heat issue as I have checked that so many times with hyper threading enabled and the CPU temp has never been any higher than 53 gegrees celsius. The performance of my system was great with hyper threading enabled, just an occasional BSOD or random reboot out of the clear blue for no apparent reason relating to the cause.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Link19
<blockquote>quote:
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Mik3y</b></i>
you should change your system so that "thread" part becomes "transport". then you'll have a kickass system. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>

What do you mean by saying so the thread becomes transport? WIll that help with the random system reboots and BSODs when hyper threading is enabled.

He was joking. Hyperthreading = P4, HyperTransport = Athlon 64