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Disable Pagefile in Vista for better performance?

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Brother Ali

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Well I used this article to allow me to partition my hard drive. Orignally it would only let me use 40gb for partition after following the steps in the article I could partition 75gb.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto...e-inadequacy-problems/

Anyways while searching about how to delete the pagefile I saw an article that said if you have over 2gb of memory that you could disable the pagefile for better performance. So im not exacly sure if I should enable this (disabled inorder to trick stupid vista partition problem)
 
I don't think that's true until you get to the 8GB area. Even then, my vista installation sometimes is using ~6.5 GB rams just sitting idle (superfetch)
 
Whow! You discovered the hidden, amazing secret how to speed-up Vista ! 🙂 Just disable the page-file, and everything will be 10x faster.
Just makes you wonder why MS doesnt want us to know...and why its on by default.

Btw...of course this is nonsense. Why should having LESS (virtual) memory be better than more? You think that the added GB hurt performance? If Vista pages out data to the page-file then you can assume it has a reason, otherwise it wouldnt page out to disk. Paging out to disk means more physical memory for the app requesting it. If some not needed parts are temporarily on disk....why should this be a BAD thing?

 
Originally posted by: Brother Ali
Well I used this article to allow me to partition my hard drive. Orignally it would only let me use 40gb for partition after following the steps in the article I could partition 75gb.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto...e-inadequacy-problems/

Anyways while searching about how to delete the pagefile I saw an article that said if you have over 2gb of memory that you could disable the pagefile for better performance. So im not exacly sure if I should enable this (disabled inorder to trick stupid vista partition problem)
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Let's just say howtogeek isn't familiar with Windows.
 
"If your system has memory of 2G and above, it?s possible to turn off virtual memory and set no paging file at all. In fact, by doing so, Windows will probably run at faster speed. "
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That quote alone is enough to convince me that whoever wrote it has absolutely no clue how memory management works.
 
Obviously you'd want the bulk of data in physical memory since it's the fastest area (besides cache), however... All disabling the page file does is lower the amount of frequently accessed data that can fit into physical memory by ensuring more rarely accessed data resides there. That doesn't improve performance at all. For those files that are rarely accessed, hitting the hard drive every once in a while to page in and out is vastly better than having said data take permanent residence in physical memory.

If anything, Windows Vista would make better use of a page file than previous versions of Windows, since virtual memory as a whole is populated better than before through Superfetch. Don't disable it.
 
Yada, yada, yada...

Originally posted by: Continuity28
If anything, Windows Vista would make better use of a page file than previous versions of Windows, since virtual memory as a whole is populated better than before through Superfetch.
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Et cetera, et cetera...

Heh! I love it!

These are (ahem) virtually the same arguments I use in favor of ReadyBoost/ReadyDrive!

Yet, the same ppl that warn against disabling PageFile rail against ReadyBoost/ReadyDrive - and for the same reason - performance.

Microsoft made ALL this stuff for a purpose - and it wasn't to slow things down! 😀
 
someone told me that vista gets faster if you disable bitdefender & other resourses that inhibit HDD performance. Apparently it has improved memory management, yet there are so many layered processes and services that constantly spin the HDD. A key factor, IMO would be HDD performance with that os (along with cpu & mem I/O speed) - and disabling a Bitdefender & a few other processes has been proven to increase performance in general.
 
Originally posted by: jaredpace
someone told me that vista gets faster if you disable bitdefender & other resourses that inhibit HDD performance. Apparently it has improved memory management, yet there are so many layered processes and services that constantly spin the HDD. A key factor, IMO would be HDD performance with that os (along with cpu & mem I/O speed) - and disabling a Bitdefender & a few other processes has been proven to increase performance in general.
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yea we wouldn't want our HDD's spinning now would we?
 
"If your system has memory of 2G and above, it?s possible to turn off virtual memory and set no paging file at all. In fact, by doing so, Windows will probably run at faster speed. "
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How does this person propose you "turn off" virtual memory? 😕:roll:
 
I don't know what is wrong with Vista 64, but when I turn off paging file, it automatically makes a paging file in the C dirve which is 8 Gigabytes large. This article
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/15/vista_workshop/
recommended that I set the vista pagefile size as 16mb (min allowed) before I disable it, because vista needs a file named pagefile.sys; however, it still did not work.

Long story short, I created a logical drive just to house a pagefile which is a whopping 16 mb big. What is really strange is that when I go under Vram settings, it will say that I only have 16mb paging file, and when i looked through with windows explorer, I infact only have one pagefile.sys which is 16mb big. However, under my task manager's "performance" window, it says i have 7956mb of page file...??!?!?!
 
i indeed disabled some things, but (not to sound like an a$$) this needs knowledge WHAT and WHY to disable.
Eg. there is no point in disabling low-priority superfetch/indexing since this will contribute to performance for sure.
(I've seen people recommending disabling superfetch...this is probably the same people recommending turning off the pagefile 🙂

But some things..like offline-file syncing, QoS, parental controls, TMM can actually be disabled. One of the best things i killed was mobsync.exe which spawned a wmplayer instance in the background indexing around like crazy...and ALSO locking access to every inserted DVD etc..
There is a lot running, yes, but be careful what you disable.
 
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: jaredpace
someone told me that vista gets faster if you disable bitdefender & other resourses that inhibit HDD performance. Apparently it has improved memory management, yet there are so many layered processes and services that constantly spin the HDD. A key factor, IMO would be HDD performance with that os (along with cpu & mem I/O speed) - and disabling a Bitdefender & a few other processes has been proven to increase performance in general.
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yea we wouldn't want our HDD's spinning now would we?
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One of the GOOD things about Vista (uhm...yes) is that the memory management has a lot improved, this especially if you use a decent USB drive for readyboost/superfetch. It observes user-pattern and learns what you actually run all the times and it actively preloads everything into memory - so real HD accesses are actually DECREASED.

So...even 8GB would be a good thing since Vista would adjust itself and sooner or later with the help of superfetch and readyboost your *memory* would hold a LOT of data you'd otherwise get from the HD.

Disabling pagefile and disabling some low-priority services doesnt make sense if it (overall) contributes to better performance. this is still "old school" thinking.
 
In fact, it is even less tempting to turn off the pagefile in Vista. Graphics memory pages to system memory pages to page file. Now you have both system and graphics memory doing VM (system always has) and the page file becomes even more likely a target as an alternate store.

That is ignoring that fact that the system uses the page file as a disk store of the system memory info. In case of a blue screen, that information is available during the recovery and reporting phase.
 
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