DirectTV knowledgeable people please help me out
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He owns the right to use the card to view video. And that's all he's asking to do, not copy/sell/cheat the card, but use it in a different device. Kinda like playing a CD in your car or at home. Jeesh.
Now if someone knows, answer his question please. I don't or I would.
Now if someone knows, answer his question please. I don't or I would.
KK
Lifer
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I'm no expert but I believe the card gets married to the recievers IRD. That I believe is like a MAC address on a network card. So when you put it into the reciever the card picks up that recievers IRD. Now once you already have that information stored on the card, the question is can you put it into another reciever. I dunno, have you tried to? I doubt that it would loop the card up. You probably can try it, and if it doesn't work then you could probably put it back into the other reciever without a problem. I'd definately would not hook up a phoneline to the second reciever because if it tries to dial out and if they can see that the IRD on the card does not match what is in their database then it may get blacklisted and shut the card down. Let us know what happens, I'm kinda curious.
KK
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the access card is married to the ird by serie number and cant by changed by you legally. when u first sub to dtv, they activiated your card and told it to remmeber your ird and will only work on that ird. if u try on another ird, itll say wrong access card on the screen, but will remain functioning once u return it to orginal ird.
now, as for swapping back and forward, no u can not do it with legally. you could of couse call dtv up and tell them u got a new ird and want to switch to it. theyll send signal down the stream to re-married to the new ird. of couse, they wont allow u to keep nagging them to re-marrie agian over and over.
ps, if u call them, dont mention the words, marrie, stream, ird or loop. they might get wrong ideas about u
now, as for swapping back and forward, no u can not do it with legally. you could of couse call dtv up and tell them u got a new ird and want to switch to it. theyll send signal down the stream to re-married to the new ird. of couse, they wont allow u to keep nagging them to re-marrie agian over and over.
ps, if u call them, dont mention the words, marrie, stream, ird or loop. they might get wrong ideas about u
Who said anything about hacking? It should be perfectly within his fair use rights to take the card anywhere he wants to receive video.
When you change receivers, DTV has to change some programming to get your system to respond ... kinda like a MAC address. I recently had to replace receivers (the old one died), new rcvr wouldn't work with the old card, so I called DTV. They asked some information, then *poof* the new receiver started working. It's not gonna be as easy as just taking the card out of one unit and transferring it to the other... You'll have to call 'em every time...
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- Apr 14, 2001
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There is a $5.00 a month charge for each receiver. It's not a big deal. Everyone is acting as if it's a lot more money.
And why does he want to swap receivers more than a few times? Is he swapping to judge video quality? Menu speed? If so, pay the five bucks for a month, then cancel the extra receiver. Or does he want to "swap" the card because he wants DTV in more than one room? If so, follow the agreement and pay the lousy $5 charge he agreed to when he signed up.
They DO NOT ALLOW THIS. If you want more than one receiver in the house then you have to have two cards. Directv makes their money this way. Like people have said, once the card has been put into a receiver it will not work in another receiver without calling DTV asking them to swap which receivers you use for your subscription. Then that will leave your other receiver not able to use it.
I don't want to hear that he should be allowed to do it or it isn't against DTV policy because IT IS. With your subscription you are paying to use THAT particular receiver to receive programming. You are sh*t out of luck unless you want to get into illegal activities. And if you haven't read www.legal-rights.org then you don't want to get involved.
Directv is taking people to civil court over owning a ISO Smart Card programmer which is totally legal. They are doing it because you "could" use it to obtain illegal dtv programming. So basically they are blackmailing people out of $3000 because it would cost at least that much to defend yourself. Trust me, you don't want to give DTV a reason to think you are doing anything illegal. Is what DTV is doing by suing them right?? Hell no but it takes too much to fight them. There is a class action suit getting underway but it is too little too late for some people.
I don't have DTV anymore but if was ever sued then I would be up sh*t creek. That is another reason why I kept my nose clean. I left my card in the receiver it was supposed to be in and I didn't purchase anything that DTV might think I could use to steal their programming.
I don't want to hear that he should be allowed to do it or it isn't against DTV policy because IT IS. With your subscription you are paying to use THAT particular receiver to receive programming. You are sh*t out of luck unless you want to get into illegal activities. And if you haven't read www.legal-rights.org then you don't want to get involved.
Directv is taking people to civil court over owning a ISO Smart Card programmer which is totally legal. They are doing it because you "could" use it to obtain illegal dtv programming. So basically they are blackmailing people out of $3000 because it would cost at least that much to defend yourself. Trust me, you don't want to give DTV a reason to think you are doing anything illegal. Is what DTV is doing by suing them right?? Hell no but it takes too much to fight them. There is a class action suit getting underway but it is too little too late for some people.
I don't have DTV anymore but if was ever sued then I would be up sh*t creek. That is another reason why I kept my nose clean. I left my card in the receiver it was supposed to be in and I didn't purchase anything that DTV might think I could use to steal their programming.
Yes, it is true that the card gets married to whatever receiver you put it in, if you take it out of that receiver and try to put it into another one it won't work. If you had a programmer you can easily unmarry the card and place it into another receiver and it will work fine that way.
Which is lame, but I guess if you like getting lubed up by big corporations you have the right.
Whatever, I don't use DTV, lol.
Guess their policies either changed since DTV first came out or I was misinformed at the time. It was explained the access card could be used with any receiver legally. So if you have a cabin, buy twice the hardware, but just take your access card with you. Now I can sure see why they're prefer you pay for two subscriptions as well, though I sure think that policy is inappropriate. Again I liken it to a CD, or even a DVD rental, the enterntainment content is payed for, your choice of viewing location should be your choice. But if their policy does say you only get to use card X with receiver X then fine. Either way he never said anything about trying to hack.
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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Which is lame, but I guess if you like getting lubed up by big corporations you have the right.Maybe he doesn't want to pay the extra $5/month? That's perfectly fine, he should be able to have two receivers in his house and just move the card from one to another. He'd be doing the same thing if he just picked up the whole receiver and moved it around with him. How about making cds that only play in the first cd player you put them in? I think you'd be complaining about that when your cd won't play in your car...or maybe you'd be ass kissing the RIAA for doing it?
Whatever, I don't use DTV, lol.
You're buying a service, and to do so you must agree to their terms BEFORE you buy the equipment. This is not like a EULA that you agree to after the fact. This is all laid out for you before hand. No one is getting "lubed" here because they agreed to the conditions BEFORE they put out any money.
If you think DTV is "lubing" people, don't buy it. But know this: DTV is cheaper than cable, and every cable company I've used (it's been many) has charged a small $4 - 5 monthly fee per extra box/TV/outlet. So does Dish Network.
So no matter who you're dealing with, unless you only use an antenna, or you split the cable in your house yourself, you are more than likely paying fees for extra TVs in your house.
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Lifer
- Dec 14, 2000
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Curious......
I have direct tv on 2 systems in my house and want to add a 3rd tv to the garage for summertime when I am out there working. Is it legal for me to purchase one of those radio shack items that allow you to watch tv in another room and to simply pipe the dtv signal from inside the house to my garage, or would I be breaking some sort of rule or code by doing that?
I mean, I am watching their signal on a tv without paying yet another $5.00 for an extra receiver.
Thanks
I have direct tv on 2 systems in my house and want to add a 3rd tv to the garage for summertime when I am out there working. Is it legal for me to purchase one of those radio shack items that allow you to watch tv in another room and to simply pipe the dtv signal from inside the house to my garage, or would I be breaking some sort of rule or code by doing that?
I mean, I am watching their signal on a tv without paying yet another $5.00 for an extra receiver.
Thanks
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