Diner Owner Yells At Child To Shut Up, Mother Gets Indignant

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destrekor

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punch his/her mom in the face.

:biggrin:

Seriously - the kid isn't at fault, but the owner had apparently no one else to actually confront other than the kid, due to the parents not getting the message.

I don't necessarily agree that the owner was ultimately right in how she handled the situation, but the parents were most definitely wrong.

Yes, the kid is not at a fault, bad parenting is the issue, but the kid is the one who is annoying everyone. Again, not the kid's fault, and everyone understands the parents are the real problem when a kid is making a racket, but it really is all the same in the end: everyone wants the kid to shut the hell up. The route to correcting the situation: getting the parents to understand that and fixing the situation, or leaving the establishment.
 

Genx87

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“I turned to my daughter and I was like `Listen, this is how I’m raising you not to be as an adult. Like, you will never be like this when you get older,'” Carson said. “I felt helpless as a mom that, you know, I couldn’t do anything to help her, because I can’t explain why there’s crazy people in this world that behave like that.”

Yes daughter how you act as an adult is to ignore your starving kid to the point they cry for 40 minutes and get you kicked out of a restaurant.

I'd not have yelled at the kid. I'd have yelled at the tard parents. Then kicked them out and told them never to come back.
 

Murloc

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Hell yes. If you can't control your child, leave the restaurant, theater, or ???

While it's true that all kids get upset from time to time, no one wants to hear your kid scream for more than a few seconds. If you can't quiet your child, leave.
or you know, do what desperate parents usually do: take the child and go for a walk.
5 minutes is the limit, maybe finish the fillet if it risks getting cold but then go.

I couldn’t do anything to help her, because I can’t explain why there’s crazy people in this world that behave like that.
argh there is no need to help except to give the food.
 

waggy

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or you know, do what desperate parents usually do: take the child and go for a walk.
5 minutes is the limit, maybe finish the fillet if it risks getting cold but then go.

when my kids were young we stuck to fast food places. as they got older and we started going to nicer places if they got like this either me or my wife would take them to the car and get the food to go.

sure it took a few times for them to learn.

also at 2 we had snacks for them to munch on while waiting for the meal.

I just don't get the parents sitting there 10 minutes with a crying child..
 

Darwin333

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:biggrin:

Seriously - the kid isn't at fault, but the owner had apparently no one else to actually confront other than the kid, due to the parents not getting the message.

I don't necessarily agree that the owner was ultimately right in how she handled the situation, but the parents were most definitely wrong.

Yes, the kid is not at a fault, bad parenting is the issue, but the kid is the one who is annoying everyone. Again, not the kid's fault, and everyone understands the parents are the real problem when a kid is making a racket, but it really is all the same in the end: everyone wants the kid to shut the hell up. The route to correcting the situation: getting the parents to understand that and fixing the situation, or leaving the establishment.

Personally I think she should have asked the parents to leave. If you yell at my child while I am right next to her then we are going to have some serious issues, you talk to me and I will decide the best course of action for my child. If I refuse to do anything you should kick me and my child out.

With that said, I don't find this very newsworthy. I wouldn't not eat there over it and if I was there at the time I would have been thankful the damn kid shut the hell up.
 

SagaLore

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when my kids were young we stuck to fast food places. as they got older and we started going to nicer places if they got like this either me or my wife would take them to the car and get the food to go.

sure it took a few times for them to learn.

also at 2 we had snacks for them to munch on while waiting for the meal.

I just don't get the parents sitting there 10 minutes with a crying child..

Same. We've never once sat in a restaurant and let everyone else endure our noisy or misbehaving kid.
 

twinrider1

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Watched the video. Owner is half a whack job. But it sounds like the parent's inaction brought down the thunder. Could have been handled better, but I'd still eat there.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Watched the video. Owner is half a whack job. But it sounds like the parent's inaction brought down the thunder. Could have been handled better, but I'd still eat there.

Not only would I eat there, I'd go out of my way to eat there. Place is proven to have management that will protect the other customers from idiot parents with crying children. That puts them one up on most establishments.
 

SunnyD

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“Life’s full of choices,” Neugebauer said in her TV interview after the confrontation, “and you’ve got to live with all of them. I chose to yell at a kid, it made her shut-up, which made me happy, it made my staff happy, it made the 75 other people dining here happy, and they left, they may never come back, other people may not come in. Their loss really.”

Indeed, life is full of choices. The restaurant owner made the choice to go into a service industry which caters to the public. Obviously the restaurant owner made the wrong life choice.
 

dainthomas

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I have a small child, and I wouldn't allow someone to get away with screaming at my child. However, I would have taken the child out of the restaurant to calm them down long before it would become a problem.

I personally don't have a problem with the owner doing what they did. They should have asked them to leave earlier than that though.

Back in the day it was okay to yell at other people's kids if they were acting up, and the parents would usually apologize for their kid's terrible behavior (and reprimand them again). Now they just get upset when someone doesn't appreciate their ears bleeding from the precious snowflake's unending death howls. Then they whine on the internet.
 
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DrunkenSano

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Shit parents are shit. Wish there were more establishments like this, places where they would shut kids up or just not allow little kids at all. Parents deserve a punch in the face and a $300 fine for disturbing the peace.
 

destrekor

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Indeed, life is full of choices. The restaurant owner made the choice to go into a service industry which caters to the public. Obviously the restaurant owner made the wrong life choice.

A business owner has the choice of what part of the public is their preferred clientele, don't forget that. Clearly the owner wants nothing to do with the portion of the public that brings in kids that cry and are not controlled by the parents.
 

Jeraden

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As a parent of 3 kids, I would never ever let my kid cry for more than a few minutes at a restaurant and disturb all the other guests. And those few minutes would all be spent trying to calm my kid down or to get them to stop. After that, I pick them up, take them outside, and deal with them there until they calm down enough to re-enter the restaurant.
 

Phoenix86

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I get all that and I agree, but you can tell from the owner's facebook post that she is also a piece of shit. Refers to a 2yo as a monster, beast, etc. Fuck her.

:thumbsup:

Where the hell did everyone get the idea that everything is black:white, right:wrong, republican:democrat?

Just because you think the parents were at fault doesn't mean you agree with the owner. These ideas are not mutually exclusive. When any two (groups of) people bump heads over a subject it's entirely possible they are both fucking idiots.

In this case you're right. The owner was an idiot for allowing it to go on for 40 minutes, then blowing her top.

Even if the 2 year old was acting like a "monster" any reasonable person would automatically blame the parents, not the child. I mean, that word. Child. It basically means NOT FUCKING RESPONSIBLE.
 

Jimzz

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Yep have to side with the owner on this. When my son was young and crying at a restraint I would get up and take him outside to walk or just look around till he calmed down. If he kept crying I tell my wife to get my food to go and we would leave after she was done.
 

Phoenix86

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But when forced to deal with crying children, I typically complain loudly about the quality and character of the parents.

Not one yet has ever defending their parenting skill nor has ever taken action to quiet their children.

So... basically nothing happens except you publicly shaming them.

Can I suggest another tactic? shamenun.com
 

TechBoyJK

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Indeed, life is full of choices. The restaurant owner made the choice to go into a service industry which caters to the public. Obviously the restaurant owner made the wrong life choice.

I think you missed the part where the parents ignored a screaming child for 40 minutes in a small, busy restaurant.

That's not the 'public' a restaurant is in business to cater to.
 

SunnyD

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A business owner has the choice of what part of the public is their preferred clientele, don't forget that. Clearly the owner wants nothing to do with the portion of the public that brings in kids that cry and are not controlled by the parents.

Aside from being somewhat wrong, you've completely missed the point of my post in the first place.