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Digitimes: AMD and Nvidia ready to launch new GPUs in October
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Kuzi
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It's more like AMD ready to launch next-gen, NV ready to launch low-end cards in October 
I'm not sure why AMD would release the mainstream 6700 series before the high end parts, maybe the 6800 cards are not available in big quantities yet?
Thanks for the link.
I'm not sure why AMD would release the mainstream 6700 series before the high end parts, maybe the 6800 cards are not available in big quantities yet?
Thanks for the link.
It's more like AMD ready to launch next-gen, NV ready to launch low-end cards in October
I'm not sure why AMD would release the mainstream 6700 series before the high end parts, maybe the 6800 cards are not available in big quantities yet?
Thanks for the link.
The majority of their sales are from mid range and lower end cards.
The timing between the launches is amusing. Nvidia is just finishing their top to bottom lineup and Amd is pushing out the next generation. Oh dear oh dear...
nenforcer
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Exactly, they know nVidia hasn't and is about to release low and mid range Fermi cards so why not come out with your new, probably faster HD 6700 series at the same time?
They are still the leader at the high end for the most part (sales) so will probably try and milk 585X a little longer, probably until Q1 2011.
They are still the leader at the high end for the most part (sales) so will probably try and milk 585X a little longer, probably until Q1 2011.
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AMD is using pretty sound and fairly cut throat business sense here.
They have the edge on their competition in development and performance. Nvidia is just now finishing the rollout of their full lineup and AMD is already ready to launch the next generation.
Makes sense to come out with mid-range now. They'll steal nvidia's momentum they were gaining with their mid-range 460 with AMD's higher performing next generation 6 series mid range parts they have ready to rollout.
Follow that up with high end 6870/6970/6990 retake single gpu crown and continue to maintain fastest video card lead. Nv is left in a continued catchup state.
Nvidia is still not out of the woods it seems.
JHH is going to be mobilizing a full squad of carpenters to create a Fermi 2 'card' to demo at the upcoming conference ()
They have the edge on their competition in development and performance. Nvidia is just now finishing the rollout of their full lineup and AMD is already ready to launch the next generation.
Makes sense to come out with mid-range now. They'll steal nvidia's momentum they were gaining with their mid-range 460 with AMD's higher performing next generation 6 series mid range parts they have ready to rollout.
Follow that up with high end 6870/6970/6990 retake single gpu crown and continue to maintain fastest video card lead. Nv is left in a continued catchup state.
Nvidia is still not out of the woods it seems.
JHH is going to be mobilizing a full squad of carpenters to create a Fermi 2 'card' to demo at the upcoming conference ()
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The 6770 may just be a re-branded 5770 so it's hardly new. This also seems to confirm the 6870 will be next year.
http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/news/34-amdati-grafikkarten/1491-amd-bald-mit-rebranding
http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/news/34-amdati-grafikkarten/1491-amd-bald-mit-rebranding
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the best proof that 6770 is more than just a re-branded 5770 is that 6770 is coming out at all. if amd had nothing in the works, they could easily drop 5850 prices to compete with gtx 460. because amd has a gtx 460 fighter on the way, they are able to sit back and collect more $$ while at the same time raining on gtx 460's parade.
nvidia would have been wiser to crank the gtx 460 clocks up to 750 or even 800 core. THAT would have put some serious price pressure on amd since most gpu users don't oc. sure it would have hurt gtx 470 sales, but at least they would have something compelling, and it would probably continue to be compelling even after 6770 arrives. instead they have trick-bagged themselves right into amd's trap.
nvidia would have been wiser to crank the gtx 460 clocks up to 750 or even 800 core. THAT would have put some serious price pressure on amd since most gpu users don't oc. sure it would have hurt gtx 470 sales, but at least they would have something compelling, and it would probably continue to be compelling even after 6770 arrives. instead they have trick-bagged themselves right into amd's trap.
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Charlie is reporting the 68xx is not coming to 2011, and thats probably because they are not ready, imo.
We have the holiday season coming up and Nvidia has the newest cards, AMD has promises. Seems like the reversal of last year ?
The release and naming of this new gpu , 67xx and promises of more to come is a response to the GTX 460.
We have the holiday season coming up and Nvidia has the newest cards, AMD has promises. Seems like the reversal of last year ?
The release and naming of this new gpu , 67xx and promises of more to come is a response to the GTX 460.
Did Wreckage recruit notty22 to the damage control department?
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bryanW1995
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@momeanmugs:
charlie is typically very favorable towards towards daamit because he seems to truly hate nvidia. if he's predicting 2011 it's probably more than just him pulling a # out of his ass, he very likely has strong evidence to support the claim. I kinda hope he's right, though, b/c nvidia is getting smacked around enough as it is and I am currently out of the gpu market, anyway :twisted:
charlie is typically very favorable towards towards daamit because he seems to truly hate nvidia. if he's predicting 2011 it's probably more than just him pulling a # out of his ass, he very likely has strong evidence to support the claim. I kinda hope he's right, though, b/c nvidia is getting smacked around enough as it is and I am currently out of the gpu market, anyway :twisted:
hardly confirmation, however if true I think a mid-low range release from AMD will help them DOMINATE the gpu market for a while longer by stealing sales of nVidia's only lucrative product on the market and maybe help get them out of debt.
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Since when has that meant anything?
The mid and low range cards are not generation defining. 5450, 4550 and 3650 are all interchangable.
Your flagship defines the space, not some puny card that gets lost in the crowd.
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You best look at your own link. It doesn't say one word about it being a rebranded 5770. In that chart. Not 1 word. If you lok at Barts. But you NV guys are experts at this sort of thing . Yes I seen the 5770 rebranded on the bottom . But whats that right above . I hope IDC deals with this sort of stuff also.
Your doing a great job in this section IDC.
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So very true except for this well known fact . Even tho charlie Got femi correct almost perfect he fails at ATI . The r600 both Charlie and me got info from ATI . I threw my brother inlaw who is with intel now . Who gave it to charlie I don't know . But I was really angry about it . really angry . But the ATI guys really like playing with charlie . Look up charlies record on ati hes batting zero against this team . When Ati was bringing out the 4000 series I told you guys well ahead of time that it would pleasing to many . My brother inlaw was with intel by than . But Intel and ATI were still working together at the time and as far as I know still are.
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Well the OP's article says "Barts" which is 'known as' the 67x0 will launch on October.
Your link shows "Barts" being the HD6870 with the 6770 being a rebranded 5770.
It also doesn't appear to have a single month or year anywhere in the article, so I am not sure how it confirms the 6870 will be next year.
Which means that something better than a 5770-level core is supposed to be launching in October (based on the OPs article) which may be called something beginning with a 6.
Your article doesn't contradict that, it merely assigns a different name to the part (Barts) which is supposed to be launching, saying that it will be the 6870 and not the 6770.
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What? It doesn't say one word but it clearly states it being a rebranded 5770? Not saying it's true, but it is pretty clear.
The bias is strong with this one.
If it's true, then the cards releasing next month are either a) rebranded 5770s or b) 6770s now rebranded to 6870. Depending if the two stories match up or not. Not sure why you get so offended by this. You think NV guys are bad then overreact like crazy to what looks like a legit source. IDC needs to deal with red team / green team crap like that, not because a guy posted a link to a source. At least he has a source and didn't make it up.
If it's not true, then sweet, no rebranding and more good cards coming out!
Didn't read anything about the 6870 time frame cause I didnt feel like translating.
EDIT: What I think is that the 6770 (rebrand 5770) and something better (6870? Rebranded 6770) will release in October. That is IF THIS IS TRUE.
If it is NOT true, then the 6770 and something lower (6750 / 6730?) will launch and I'm sure will do well.
I'm not 100% on it being true though, not enough or more known sources.
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We know, we know you posted this all over the forum and it's own thread. How about you refrain from spamming it everywhere. This thread isn't about that now is it?
And you know what? I don't particularly care what they call it. Nvidia rebranded the 8800 gt so much I ran out of space to pencil it in on my card.
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Know it doesn't it says juniper 5770 is going to be 6770. Juniper is out right now and rebranding it makes no sense.
It shows the 6770 barts as being rebranded 6870 Now how do you rebrand something that hasn't ever been branded speaking of barts . Why would they rebrand juniper as a 6770. I believe they may rebrand juniper as a 6670 or a 6570 but as a 6770 doesn't make sense, It be shooting self in foot. But really juniper shouldn't be rebranded any 6----. I believe it in a month when I see it.
It shows the 6770 barts as being rebranded 6870 Now how do you rebrand something that hasn't ever been branded speaking of barts . Why would they rebrand juniper as a 6770. I believe they may rebrand juniper as a 6670 or a 6570 but as a 6770 doesn't make sense, It be shooting self in foot. But really juniper shouldn't be rebranded any 6----. I believe it in a month when I see it.
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"Nvidia is prepared to launch its latest GeForce 400-series GPU, the GeForce GT 430 codenamed GF108, around the middle of October and the GPU will feature a performance in between its GeForce GT 240 and GT 220;"
I see gddr5 gt240s on sale for $30 a lot. Going by that, what would be a fair price for nvidia's new gf108? $20?
Maybe, but that sounds more like something that Nvidia would do...
I see gddr5 gt240s on sale for $30 a lot. Going by that, what would be a fair price for nvidia's new gf108? $20?
Maybe, but that sounds more like something that Nvidia would do...
happy medium
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6700 released in Oct, Dual 6700 released in Dec and 6800 series and ultra low end in early 2011.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour...-2011-mainstream-hd-6000-in-q4-2010/9744.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour...-2011-mainstream-hd-6000-in-q4-2010/9744.html
You're very right about this. Charlie has admitted ha got SI/NI wrong. I'm not so sure it's not on purpose (on both his and AMD's part) to help keep nVidia in the dark. His nVidia dirt seems to come straight from nVidia's board meetings though. (In reality, probably from Chinese manufacturers, is my guess.)
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Glad I didn't try waiting. Had to be either GTX 470 or HD 68xx for my new card and there was no way I could have waited that long.
Odd the 6970 is out before the 6800 series though.
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