Digital Rebel Kit: $899 at Dell Home after 10% off

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It just became available for sale at Dell home, but not on the web yet. You have to call them. This is the lowest legitimate deal you can get. The 10% discount expires on 9/29, but they may run out of stock sooner. If you are interested in it, you need to make a decision quick.:D
 

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I've had this camera for almost two weeks (13 days) now and it's everything I hoped for!

Be warned that this camera isn't for amateurs though. It doesn't do much in-camera post processing like most point and shoots so you'll have to do most of that yourself. This means you'll have to handle a bit of curves, levels, sharpening, etc for most of your pictures. The reason for this is that in-camera post processing makes you lose some of the original detail/quality so most of that is left for the end user.

I've seen a lot of posts by amateurs saying the pictures of the camera don't look as good as their point and shoots - that's because they don't expect to have to perform their own sharpening, etc.. The chip is actually really great and is the same as the one used in the Canon 10D

Edit: Here is my new gallery containing my best Digital Rebel (300D) images so far.
 

TaylorD

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thats a great panorama - what'd you use to stitch it together? (its 4 shots right?)

and I want one of these soo bad... I'm leaving the country sunday though for a few months, maybe itll be cheaper when I get back! s50 will have to do for now.
 

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Originally posted by: Alternex
Example Panoramic picture
This is a picture I got last weekend. I had to do a bit of post processing because it was backlit and that screwed up my metering. Plus it was a really hazy day

Wow, what a great picture! You got tell us how you did it. Please?
 

Alternex

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Originally posted by: SSSS
Originally posted by: Alternex
Example Panoramic picture
This is a picture I got last weekend. I had to do a bit of post processing because it was backlit and that screwed up my metering. Plus it was a really hazy day

Wow, what a great picture! You got tell us how you did it. Please?

Thanks! It would have looked a whole lot better if I metered it right though. :) Plus there's this feature called exposure lock, which I should have used to keep the exposure level the same across all four pictures.

That picture is taken with the kit lens. The camera comes with photostitch, which I used to combine all the pictures together. It does a very good job, all you do is drag in the pictures you want to use and then align them in order. The software will then merge them for you. It's even easier than doing it in photoshop because it takes into account distortion and makes the appropriate adjustments.

When you take a panoramic, it's important to keep the exposure the same for all the pictures. Also make sure all the pictures are aligned the same (a tripod helps) and that you have a lot of overlap between the pictures.

If you like panoramics, here are a couple good ones that I took with my Canon G2
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pic2
 

TaylorD

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Originally posted by: Alternex
Originally posted by: SSSS
Originally posted by: Alternex Example Panoramic picture This is a picture I got last weekend. I had to do a bit of post processing because it was backlit and that screwed up my metering. Plus it was a really hazy day
Wow, what a great picture! You got tell us how you did it. Please?
Thanks! It would have looked a whole lot better if I metered it right though. :) Plus there's this feature called exposure lock, which I should have used to keep the exposure level the same across all four pictures. That picture is taken with the kit lens. The camera comes with photostitch, which I used to combine all the pictures together. It does a very good job, all you do is drag in the pictures you want to use and then align them in order. The software will then merge them for you. It's even easier than doing it in photoshop because it takes into account distortion and makes the appropriate adjustments. When you take a panoramic, it's important to keep the exposure the same for all the pictures. Also make sure all the pictures are aligned the same (a tripod helps) and that you have a lot of overlap between the pictures. If you like panoramics, here are a couple good ones that I took with my Canon G2 pic1 pic2

I assume you used a tripod for all of those shots?
 

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Originally posted by: TaylorD
Originally posted by: Alternex
Originally posted by: SSSS
Originally posted by: Alternex Example Panoramic picture This is a picture I got last weekend. I had to do a bit of post processing because it was backlit and that screwed up my metering. Plus it was a really hazy day
Wow, what a great picture! You got tell us how you did it. Please?
Thanks! It would have looked a whole lot better if I metered it right though. :) Plus there's this feature called exposure lock, which I should have used to keep the exposure level the same across all four pictures. That picture is taken with the kit lens. The camera comes with photostitch, which I used to combine all the pictures together. It does a very good job, all you do is drag in the pictures you want to use and then align them in order. The software will then merge them for you. It's even easier than doing it in photoshop because it takes into account distortion and makes the appropriate adjustments. When you take a panoramic, it's important to keep the exposure the same for all the pictures. Also make sure all the pictures are aligned the same (a tripod helps) and that you have a lot of overlap between the pictures. If you like panoramics, here are a couple good ones that I took with my Canon G2 pic1 pic2

I assume you used a tripod for all of those shots?

He probably did. Unless he can hold his hands steady still for each pic that he took, he had a tripod.
 

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Man I've been saving for a 10D - where did this one come from!

I'm to knackered on a Friday night to investigate, how does this stack up against the 10D?
 

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Originally posted by: Zeeeter
Man I've been saving for a 10D - where did this one come from!

I'm to knackered on a Friday night to investigate, how does this stack up against the 10D?

Check out dpreview.com, you get all the answers you want. The bottomline is this: 10D is $600 more expensive. You would expect 10D to outperform Digital Rebel in most areas. But they share the same 6M pixel CMOS sensor. So the output quality is similar. If you are a semi-pro, you would probably spend the extra $600. But if you are an advanced amateur with a wife, Digital Rebel is probably good enough.
 

Alternex

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: TaylorD
Originally posted by: Alternex
Originally posted by: SSSS
Originally posted by: Alternex Example Panoramic picture This is a picture I got last weekend. I had to do a bit of post processing because it was backlit and that screwed up my metering. Plus it was a really hazy day
Wow, what a great picture! You got tell us how you did it. Please?
Thanks! It would have looked a whole lot better if I metered it right though. :) Plus there's this feature called exposure lock, which I should have used to keep the exposure level the same across all four pictures. That picture is taken with the kit lens. The camera comes with photostitch, which I used to combine all the pictures together. It does a very good job, all you do is drag in the pictures you want to use and then align them in order. The software will then merge them for you. It's even easier than doing it in photoshop because it takes into account distortion and makes the appropriate adjustments. When you take a panoramic, it's important to keep the exposure the same for all the pictures. Also make sure all the pictures are aligned the same (a tripod helps) and that you have a lot of overlap between the pictures. If you like panoramics, here are a couple good ones that I took with my Canon G2 pic1 pic2

I assume you used a tripod for all of those shots?

He probably did. Unless he can hold his hands steady still for each pic that he took, he had a tripod.


The first shot I posted (using the Digital Rebel / 300D) was hand held. That picture was of Cannon Beach in Oregon to the person that asked.
The second two shots (using the G2) were both set up on a tripod and those two were both in France.

You don't always need to use a tripod if you have a fast enough shutter speed. When it's bright daylight the shutter speed will be around 1/250 (or even 1/4000) of a sec - of course that depends on your aperture. Plus there's lens with Image Stabilization (IS) that compensate and get rid of camera shake.
 

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people keep posting it's the same sensor. that's technically true, but it's not really. they're produced using a different process so canon can sell this camera for cheaper. that is, the sensor isn't quite as good. but still should be pretty good

and also, you shouldn't have to do post-camera processing, as alternex says. there is a preset that should give you the sharpening you want, like comparable to normal consumer digicams
 

WebDude

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Did anyone who ordered this have a problem getting the 10% discount over the phone? The web site says about the 10%:
"Valid for new U.S. online purchases through the Dell Home Systems Software and Peripherals site only. " Just wondered if they're being stict about this, or liberal?
 

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Alternex~ Seeing that you own both the Rebel-D and a G2, you are probably the right person to advise me...
I'm torn between getting a Rebel-D or a G5. I've never owned a digicam - I've been using a Canon 10 (film) SLR for a good number of years and I intend to continue to use it quite a bit (at least that's my plan). I just want a good digicam mainly for travelling because most, if not all, airports (since 9/11) no longer permit hand-inspection of film and I've been winding up with fogged film (from cumulative xrays)!!!

All~ I don't see the Rebel-D on Dell's 'Home' website - can anyone provide a linky? Also, having never bought from Dell, does anyone know if they charge Sales Tax for California shipments?