Digital DJs 'unaware of copy law'!

[The Linuxator]

Found this article on BBC.

I do a lot of mixes, and have a big compilation of them, and in a couple of weeks I am throwing a gig at a local hang out place ,were I am going to be mixing some live Trance tracks, and going to play some here and there that I have premixed on my laptop.
The whole thing is going to be free, so I am not going to be making money out of it, it's just going to be something that I can brush up my Djing skills with.

Am I to be concerned about this licenese here in the US or not ?

 

[Perknose]

You will be digitally remasted by a black clad representative of the Office of Homeland Uber Alles. Sadly, the new you will not be a commerical hit.

 

[ntdz]

That's a law in Britain...and who cares if you're breaking the law if you aren't getting paid for it. You aren't doing anything wrong, and it's not like the govt will ever know.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: ntdz
That's a law in Britain...and who cares if you're breaking the law if you aren't getting paid for it. You aren't doing anything wrong, and it's not like the govt will ever know.

LMAO we are in the age of unauthorized citezen wiretapping, digital espionage, human rights violations,...etc are you serious ??

 

[magomago]

Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: magomago
Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

Not until the people throw the government off their back........

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: ntdz
That's a law in Britain...and who cares if you're breaking the law if you aren't getting paid for it. You aren't doing anything wrong, and it's not like the govt will ever know.

LMAO we are in the age of unauthorized citezen wiretapping, digital espionage, human rights violations,...etc are you serious ??

Yeah, I'm sure they bugged some house party to see if any dj's are playing music on a laptop, give me a break.

 

[aidanjm]

cute baby penguin in your sig

 

[Future Shock]

Originally posted by: magomago
Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

Will the weak ever stop trying to steal intellectual property from the inventive and creative?

You want to play some break beats in a club? Fine, go BUY a copy of Reaktor 5 for your PC, a Korg Kontrol keyboard, and spend the next few weeks or months programming your own. NO ONE is going to stop you from doing that, or charge you ANYTHING for that right.

You wanna play MY breakbeats to an audience while you soak up the accolades and possibly the money? Fine, compensate me for my considerable time creating them. And rather than make you have to write to me personally, we've made it easy - £200 per year if you're a professional or semi-pro. That's actually a good deal - a single song would cost you more than £2 in a remix version, so you only have to pay for 100 of them. And club DJs buy and play way more than 100 songs per year.

Too bad that the avoidance of intellectual property theft is being re-defined as "the government is on our backs..."

Future Shock

 

[M00T]

Originally posted by: Future Shock

Originally posted by: magomago
Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

Will the weak ever stop trying to steal intellectual property from the inventive and creative?

You want to play some break beats in a club? Fine, go BUY a copy of Reaktor 5 for your PC, a Korg Kontrol keyboard, and spend the next few weeks or months programming your own. NO ONE is going to stop you from doing that, or charge you ANYTHING for that right.

You wanna play MY breakbeats to an audience while you soak up the accolades and possibly the money? Fine, compensate me for my considerable time creating them. And rather than make you have to write to me personally, we've made it easy - £200 per year if you're a professional or semi-pro. That's actually a good deal - a single song would cost you more than £2 in a remix version, so you only have to pay for 100 of them. And club DJs buy and play way more than 100 songs per year.

Too bad that the avoidance of intellectual property theft is being re-defined as "the government is on our backs..."

Future Shock

On the contrary... A LOT of DJ's would love for their tracks to be played by other DJ's. It's free advertising. It's tradition amongst the electronic community. It wasn't until the money grobblers and the record labels saw $$$ involved, that they started blasting off about "intellectual property."

If DJ Icey mixes in one of your tracks at a show, you ought to be paying him(if anything) for exposing your music to a large audience.

 

[Future Shock]

Originally posted by: M00T

Originally posted by: Future Shock

Originally posted by: magomago
Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

Will the weak ever stop trying to steal intellectual property from the inventive and creative?

You want to play some break beats in a club? Fine, go BUY a copy of Reaktor 5 for your PC, a Korg Kontrol keyboard, and spend the next few weeks or months programming your own. NO ONE is going to stop you from doing that, or charge you ANYTHING for that right.

You wanna play MY breakbeats to an audience while you soak up the accolades and possibly the money? Fine, compensate me for my considerable time creating them. And rather than make you have to write to me personally, we've made it easy - £200 per year if you're a professional or semi-pro. That's actually a good deal - a single song would cost you more than £2 in a remix version, so you only have to pay for 100 of them. And club DJs buy and play way more than 100 songs per year.

Too bad that the avoidance of intellectual property theft is being re-defined as "the government is on our backs..."

Future Shock

On the contrary... A LOT of DJ's would love for their tracks to be played by other DJ's. It's free advertising. It's tradition amongst the electronic community. It wasn't until the money grobblers and the record labels saw $$$ involved, that they started blasting off about "intellectual property."

If DJ Icey mixes in one of your tracks at a show, you ought to be paying him(if anything) for exposing your music to a large audience.

And the problem is WHAT? Then simply give your track away via BitTorrent or your own web site as a free download. There are also MANY websites dedicated to providing free downloads for unknown or rising talent. However, the sheer sales volumes of remixes and 12" vinyl suggests that many DJs wish to get compensated for their work - especially the professionals.

Future Shock

 

[Mark R]

It appears that the fee in the article you linked to is only a British thing - and is purely a supplementary licence of DJs wishing to use new digital media instead of vinyl or CD.

There does not appear to be any such equivalent in the US.

However, any playing of music outside a normal 'home' or 'domestic' setting MUST be licenced if any of the music used is copyrighted. Traditionally, it's the venue that is responsible for supplying the licence - not the DJ. However, some licences be based on a per-performance charge. This was how it worked when I was at school - the school had a recorded music performance licence - but rather than pay for an unlimited usage licence, their licence required a retrospective payment for each performance that was made.

Technically, the fact that you won't be charging is irrelevant .

In practice, it's unlikely that anyone would care about a one off free performance. If you make a habit of it, then, you're asking for trouble.

 

[M00T]

Originally posted by: Future Shock

Originally posted by: M00T

Originally posted by: Future Shock

Originally posted by: magomago
Will governments ever get off the backs of people?!?!

Will the weak ever stop trying to steal intellectual property from the inventive and creative?

You want to play some break beats in a club? Fine, go BUY a copy of Reaktor 5 for your PC, a Korg Kontrol keyboard, and spend the next few weeks or months programming your own. NO ONE is going to stop you from doing that, or charge you ANYTHING for that right.

You wanna play MY breakbeats to an audience while you soak up the accolades and possibly the money? Fine, compensate me for my considerable time creating them. And rather than make you have to write to me personally, we've made it easy - £200 per year if you're a professional or semi-pro. That's actually a good deal - a single song would cost you more than £2 in a remix version, so you only have to pay for 100 of them. And club DJs buy and play way more than 100 songs per year.

Too bad that the avoidance of intellectual property theft is being re-defined as "the government is on our backs..."

Future Shock

On the contrary... A LOT of DJ's would love for their tracks to be played by other DJ's. It's free advertising. It's tradition amongst the electronic community. It wasn't until the money grobblers and the record labels saw $$$ involved, that they started blasting off about "intellectual property."

If DJ Icey mixes in one of your tracks at a show, you ought to be paying him(if anything) for exposing your music to a large audience.

And the problem is WHAT? Then simply give your track away via BitTorrent or your own web site as a free download. There are also MANY websites dedicated to providing free downloads for unknown or rising talent. However, the sheer sales volumes of remixes and 12" vinyl suggests that many DJs wish to get compensated for their work - especially the professionals.

Future Shock

You really think tracks weren't shared prior to this whole P2P bandwagon? Get real.

I'm old enough to remember bootleg/demo tapes. The record companies never cried about loosing money back then.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Am I to be concerned about this licenese here in the US or not ?

If you have to ask this question, you should not be getting involved in the electronic music scene.

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[PatboyX]

now, i thought that bands were able to play covers of songs they didnt write without fear of legal action. its just if they sell those covers on albums that it becomes a problem.