Differences between TSMC 16nm FF+ (Pascal) and GloFo 14nm LPP (Polaris)?

[Azix]

Which if true would suggest AMD think TSMC is better. We can guess they have no choice but to use some GloFo 14nm to fulfil the wafer contract, so why use any TSMC as that means designing chips for a whole other node, an expensive and time consuming process? If GloFo could make the big gpu's surely that would be all they need?

my guess is tsmc for things like their ARM opteron. GPU and Zen are already confirmed 14nm afaik

I'd be surprised if their GPUs were on different processes. worrying about volume wouldn't justify that and who is to say TSMC is better for the big chips? its still a new process. If they are both too risky then maybe. But the best I think would be things like console APUs and ARM processors for a different process.

 

[PPB]

No. AMD is working on 16FF+ GPUs, just poke around LinkedIn for a bit.

16nm FF+ GPUs =/= 16nm FF+ dGPUs. They may very well mean just the iGP of an APU.

Also, if you use linkedin as a source you might end up thinking there were 20nm gpus 2 years ago, AMD is using PDSOI for some of their upcoming products, and Puma is getting their sucessor. Yeah, nothing of that really happened.

 

[HighTech4US2]

At this point there's just one difference, the first is nowhere to be found and the second is already working.

Amazing how wrong you were.

Pascal is out yet Polaris is MIA.

 

[Erenhardt]

Amazing how wrong you were.

Pascal is out yet Polaris is MIA.

Strange. Just got back from the shop and no Pascals to be had there.

 

[Sweepr]

Strange. Just got back from the shop and no Pascals to be had there.

Strange, I thought the launch date was in 2 days and we already had reviews out, both of which are not the case for Polaris.

 

[caswow]

Strange, I thought the launch date was in 2 days and we already had reviews out, both of which are not the case for Polaris.

who said it was launch day?

 

[nurturedhate]

So a member with a post count of 4 goes into a thread that has been dead for 4 months to start a flame war by throwing salt at AMD...

This just needs reporting and closing.

 

[sm625]

So a member with a post count of 4 goes into a thread that has been dead for 4 months to start a flame war by throwing salt at AMD...

IPC increases!

 

[airfathaaaaa]

https://www.google.gr/search?q=High...S2&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

lay dormant for aions then suddenly reactivates its self

 

[tviceman]

So much hind sight gold in this thread. Thank you for bringing it back!

 

[Gikaseixas]

https://www.google.gr/search?q=High...S2&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

lay dormant for aions then suddenly reactivates its self

great find. Mods should lock this

 

[Markfw]

Per popular demand, and 4 reported posts entries, I am locking this flamefest.