Difference between England, Great Britain and the UK...ever wondered?

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CZroe

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I always say "the UK" when I refer to anything over there, and it doesn't seem to piss anyone off. That's good enough for me.

"Let me introduce you to my the UK friend. He's the UK. He was born in London."

Not exactly a substitute for British/English so you still might offend someone when you need to reference thier nationality. :)
 

Ichinisan

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Besides, Neckarb/HAL9000: To SOME people, calling you "English" would only make other people wonder:
1) He might not be from England, maybe he's of English decent
2) He might simply speak the English language and have no connection with England
3) He might be an English citizen, living abroad
4) He might be an English citizen, living in England

Strangely, saying that you're "English" can be even more vague than calling you "British." The only way to satisfy you and be clear about your nationality is to say it like this every time:
"Necktard is an English citizen that lives in England."
 

HAL9000

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Besides, Neckarb/HAL9000: To SOME people, calling you "English" would only make other people wonder:
1) He might not be from England, maybe he's of English decent
2) He might simply speak the English language and have no connection with England
3) He might be an English citizen, living abroad
4) He might be an English citizen, living in England

Strangely, saying that you're "English" can be even more vague than calling you "British." The only way to satisfy you and be clear about your nationality is to say it like this every time:
"Necktard is an English citizen that lives in England."

Wow that's not the case at all, it's like saying that calling someone American is more vague than calling them North American... It's not. It's like saying calling someone a Texan is more vague that calling someone American it's not.

This wouldn't satisfy me
 

thegimp03

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LOL.

If you didn't know this then you probably need to go back to school.

Most people here, me included, took United States history in school so we didn't learn about the technicalities of what makes up the British Isles and the Commonwealth. I thought the video was interesting and informative.
 

WelshBloke

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Besides, Neckarb/HAL9000: To SOME people, calling you "English" would only make other people wonder:
1) He might not be from England, maybe he's of English decent
2) He might simply speak the English language and have no connection with England
3) He might be an English citizen, living abroad
4) He might be an English citizen, living in England

Strangely, saying that you're "English" can be even more vague than calling you "British." The only way to satisfy you and be clear about your nationality is to say it like this every time:
"Necktard is an English citizen that lives in England."

Most of those come from weird Americans that think they are Irish even though they have never been there, their Mum has never been there, but their grandad once had a Guinness.
 

Ichinisan

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Wow that's not the case at all, it's like saying that calling someone American is more vague than calling them North American... It's not. It's like saying calling someone a Texan is more vague that calling someone American it's not.

This wouldn't satisfy me

...

Strangely, saying that you're "English" can be even more vague than calling you "British." The only way to satisfy you and be clear about your nationality is to say it like this every time:
"Necktard is an English citizen that lives in England."

:rolleyes:
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Yeah, Ignorance is good! Go back to cracking rocks, edjumakation is not for you!!

Not knowing things is fine, not caring that you don't know is bad.

no, he's saying it is irrelevant. you not knowing the local differences between the Bai and Hani in chinese is of no importance either, and there are far more of those groups than the welsh. I mean really, list all the ethnic groups of china off the top of your head, I dare you.

I know in the uk it is standard practice on tv shows and media to make a big issue over your local identity, it's always welsh this, scottish that blabbity blah blah, everyone has to have a freakin label, northerner blah blah. Maybe you can't see this if you are in the middle of it, but from an outsider it is glaring how often the chest thumping and stereotyping is in force. It means you care way too much about such minutia, and then it distorts your view of the actual importance. Uk is the size of oregon, the minutia squabbles and grievance bs within that speck is really of no concern to anyone else.
 
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WelshBloke

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no, he's saying it is irrelevant. you not knowing the local differences between the Bai and Hani in chinese means nothing other than you are not interested. There are more of those folks than the welsh thats for sure. I know in the uk it is standard practice on tv shows and media to make a big issue over your local identity, its always welsh this, scottish that blabbity blah blah, everyone has to have a freakin label, northerner this, geordie that...blah blah. Maybe you can't see this if you are in the middle of it, but from an outsider it is glaring how often the chest thumping and stereotyping is in force. It means you care way too much about such minutia, and then it distorts your view of the actual importance. Uk is the size of oregon, the minutia squabbles and grievance bs within that speck is really of no concern to anyone else.

o_O What? I said its fine to not know stuff.

Its sad when someone presents you with knowledge thats well presented and you just shrug.

Theres a crap ton of stuff I dont know but if you tell me something I dont know I'll be interested.

Also theres a bunch of people in the USA that claim to be Scottish/Welsh/Irish without knowing anything about what that means.
 

CanOWorms

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Its sad when someone presents you with knowledge thats well presented and you just shrug.

Theres a crap ton of stuff I dont know but if you tell me something I dont know I'll be interested.

Understanding the distinction between England, Great Britain, and United Kingdom isn't among among the "crap ton of stuff" for most people. It belongs in the same category as Paris Hilton's middle name.
 

WelshBloke

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Understanding the distinction between England, Great Britain, and United Kingdom isn't among among the "crap ton of stuff" for most people. It belongs in the same category as Paris Hilton's middle name.


Well you seem obsessed about the Royal family and the minutiae of their role in British politics so...?
 

Maximilian

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Thats well explained, so to sum up, our country is a frickin mess :awe:

As for the british thing, its only the half drunken wankers who spend their life in pubs that would really take any offence to that, most of the real people dont care.
 

CanOWorms

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Well you seem obsessed about the Royal family and the minutiae of their role in British politics so...?

That's why I said most people. Random facts about Peru may be important for someone interested in Peruvian politics. Perhaps it's important to know the 5th largest city there. But for most people, it's the equivalent of England/GB/UK or Paris Hilton's middle name.
 

zCypher

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I think if you get all uptight about it you're just too... uptight. Relax.
I'm Canadian and if someone mistakenly calls me American, it's fine. I don't feel particularly obligated to correct little slips like that, it's really not a big deal.

Having said that, I very much enjoyed the video and its somewhat fast pace. It was well done and clears any misconception one may have had about the subject. Thank you for sharing!
 

WelshBloke

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That's why I said most people. Random facts about Peru may be important for someone interested in Peruvian politics. Perhaps it's important to know the 5th largest city there. But for most people, it's the equivalent of England/GB/UK or Paris Hilton's middle name.

OK, as long as you realise that all that stuff you rant and rave about is pointless fluff thats cool.
 

CZroe

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Wow that's not the case at all, it's like saying that calling someone American is more vague than calling them North American... It's not. It's like saying calling someone a Texan is more vague that calling someone American it's not.

This wouldn't satisfy me

Uhh... calling someone "American" absolutely can be more vague than calling them "North Ameican." In a continental sense, someone from Chili or Panama is an American (South and Central). In a nationality sense, it more specifically refers to the USA.
 
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RocksteadyDotNet

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Uhh... calling someone "American" absolutely can be more vague than calling them "Texan." In a continental sense, someone from Chili or Panama is an American (South and Central). In a nationality sense, it more specifically refers to the USA.

You got it the wrong way round.

He's saying that calling someone American is more vauge than calling someone Texan.

Same as saying someone is from the UK is more vague than calling someone English.

People from England refer to themselves as English, same as people from Scotland call themeselves Scotish.

I've never heard an english person say they're from the UK. They say they're from England.

Same with scots and welsh. That hate the english, so they like to make it know that they're not english.

A scot would never say they're british. They'd say they were scotish.
 

alkemyst

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You got it the wrong way round.

He's saying that calling someone American is more vauge than calling someone Texan.

Same as saying someone is from the UK is more vague than calling someone English.

People from England refer to themselves as English, same as people from Scotland call themeselves Scotish.

I've never heard an english person say they're from the UK. They say they're from England.

Same with scots and welsh. That hate the english, so they like to make it know that they're not english.

A scot would never say they're british. They'd say they were scotish.

In all seriousness, based on this post I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Just look at USA, many would say they are American as it should be...but then you have the fucks that want to say despite their Great Great Great Grandfather dying to get them here, then the Great Great dying in trying to support them staying here; that they are really anything but American. Look at my T shirt [explicitive], see my flag flying!
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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In all seriousness, based on this post I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Just look at USA, many would say they are American as it should be...but then you have the fucks that want to say despite their Great Great Great Grandfather dying to get them here, then the Great Great dying in trying to support them staying here; that they are really anything but American. Look at my T shirt [explicitive], see my flag flying!

English people are from England! How fucking hard is that to understand?

If you say you're English, and you're not from England, then you're a fuckin idiot.