Difference between Dell 2405 and 2407

[Kabob]

What's the difference between Dell's older 2405FPW and their newer 2407FPW? Is it big enough to make the 2405 obsolete as a new monitor?

 

[Ronin]

HDCP, for one. If you have any intention of using Vista, you're going to want an HDCP compliant monitor to watch HD content.

 

[Ackmed]

I wonder if they will chop off a lof of the inputs, like they did with the 3007. Hopefully that wasnt because it had HDCP.

As it is now, I watch some HDTV thru my Comcast box, and component cables in my 2405. The PiP is very nice. I dont do it as often as when I first got it, but sometimes still.

 

[Kabob]

Time to sound like a nub...

What's HDCP? Does the 2407 have a higher resolution than the 2405 that makes this a big deal?

 

[Ronin]

I hope they don't chop off the inputs, but I'm holding off on any purchase until I see if they release another version of the 3007 that has the inputs.

@kabob: http://www.digital-cp.com/home

 

[Peter]

HDCP is encrypted DVI (in simple terms), required to play DRM-infected media content over a digital link.

 

[Kabob]

Sort of a built in codec?

 

[Ronin]

It's hardware (and software, obviously) based, so not exactly.

 

[Kabob]

OK, reading that it's Intel based...if I'm using an AMD setup will I need to worry about this? Or does processor maker not matter? If Vista is using it I'd suppose both processor makers would use it...but who knows.

Does this take a different type of input cable than is normally used?

 

[darkswordsman17]

You'll have to deal with it regardless of CPU brand. It requires the use of HDCP compliant DVI port or an HDMI port.

As for the differences between the 2405 and 2407, it'll be the HDCP compliance, as well as probably better specs (lower response time, maybe wider viewing angle, higher brightness). I don't see why they'd change much about it. The resolution is fine, and it has plenty of inputs. Maybe replace either the VGA or component inputs with HDMI.

 

[L00PY]

Given that the real answers have mostly been covered, I'll have to add:

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[song414]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I wonder if they will chop off a lof of the inputs, like they did with the 3007. Hopefully that wasnt because it had HDCP.

As it is now, I watch some HDTV thru my Comcast box, and component cables in my 2405. The PiP is very nice. I dont do it as often as when I first got it, but sometimes still.

the only reason why they took the inputs off is because it used dual dvi and required insane bandwith from it and all other connections do not have the bandwith to cover the screen so the inputs were useless.

 

[Ackmed]

Component doesnt have the bandwidth? I dont care about the S-Video, or normal yellow video in, but I would like the component. As it is also what I sometimes use for the PSP.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: song414

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I wonder if they will chop off a lof of the inputs, like they did with the 3007. Hopefully that wasnt because it had HDCP.

As it is now, I watch some HDTV thru my Comcast box, and component cables in my 2405. The PiP is very nice. I dont do it as often as when I first got it, but sometimes still.

the only reason why they took the inputs off is because it used dual dvi and required insane bandwith from it and all other connections do not have the bandwith to cover the screen so the inputs were useless.

Wrong. I posted about this before. The reason they didn't put the inputs on the 3007 is because they would have had to use a different panel that would have costed ~33% more than the current one, thus making the price not nearly as competitive with the 30" ACD.

 

[Steve]

That, and/or they didn't want to steal market share from their own LCD TVs.

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Wrong. I posted about this before. The reason they didn't put the inputs on the 3007 is because they would have had to use a different panel that would have costed ~33% more than the current one, thus making the price not nearly as competitive with the 30" ACD.

That sounds about right. After all, dell doesn't really make a darn thing in any of their lcd monitors. Even the stand is made by ergotron rather than by dell.

Hurry up and release the 2407 already dell! I wonder what the response time will be?

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: sm8000
That, and/or they didn't want to steal market share from their own LCD TVs.

I doubt it since the 3007 cost a lot more than any 30" lcd tv.

 

[Ackbar]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
You'll have to deal with it regardless of CPU brand. It requires the use of HDCP compliant DVI port or an HDMI port.

As for the differences between the 2405 and 2407, it'll be the HDCP compliance, as well as probably better specs (lower response time, maybe wider viewing angle, higher brightness). I don't see why they'd change much about it. The resolution is fine, and it has plenty of inputs. Maybe replace either the VGA or component inputs with HDMI.

What current generation video cards are HDCP compliant (in terms of the input)? My 7800GT only seems to have DVI inputs, any way to tell if its HDCP compliany?

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: Ackbar

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
You'll have to deal with it regardless of CPU brand. It requires the use of HDCP compliant DVI port or an HDMI port.

As for the differences between the 2405 and 2407, it'll be the HDCP compliance, as well as probably better specs (lower response time, maybe wider viewing angle, higher brightness). I don't see why they'd change much about it. The resolution is fine, and it has plenty of inputs. Maybe replace either the VGA or component inputs with HDMI.

What current generation video cards are HDCP compliant (in terms of the input)? My 7800GT only seems to have DVI inputs, any way to tell if its HDCP compliany?

Someone correct me hear but I think the DVI port that needs to be compliant is the end on the LCD side.

 

[Bobthelost]

You need both ends to be compliant i think.

 

[Peter]

This isn't a "compliance" thing, it is an actual feature - encryption on the transmitter, decryption on the receiving end.

Both need to be present, else the "protected digital path" for DRM-infected media contents isn't end-to-end, and the paranoia software you'll get shoved onto your systems by the content providers will flat out refuse to play the media.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Peter
HDCP is encrypted DVI (in simple terms), required to play DRM-infected media content over a digital link.

I like that term.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Originally posted by: sm8000
That, and/or they didn't want to steal market share from their own LCD TVs.

I doubt it since the 3007 cost a lot more than any 30" lcd tv.

Good point.

 

[Kabob]

I'm curious as well, is my X800 XT PE going to have the necessary inputs to run HDCP?

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: kabob983
I'm curious as well, is my X800 XT PE going to have the necessary inputs to run HDCP?

It's supposed to. This is more of a driver-level thing than needing some special hardware, since the card just needs to pass the encrypted signal out to the monitor. A device doesn't need to be capable of decrypting HDCP to pass it through.