Did we miss this? 2014 was the warmest year on record

[shira]

I don't recall seeing this in a thread.

Global Highlights
• The year 2014 was the warmest year across global land and ocean surfaces since records began in 1880. The annually-averaged temperature was 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F), easily breaking the previous records of 2005 and 2010 by 0.04°C (0.07°F). This also marks the 38th consecutive year (since 1977) that the yearly global temperature was above average. Including 2014, 9 of the 10 warmest years in the 135-year period of record have occurred in the 21st century. 1998 currently ranks as the fourth warmest year on record.
•The 2014 global average ocean temperature was also record high, at 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average of 16.1°C (60.9°F), breaking the previous records of 1998 and 2003 by 0.05°C (0.09°F). Notably, ENSO-neutral conditions were present during all of 2014.
•The 2014 global average land surface temperature was 1.00°C (1.80°F) above the 20th century average of 8.5°C (47.3°F), the fourth highest annual value on record.

But I'm sure the "global warming pause" is hiding somewhere inside the fabricated temperature data.

 

[rudeguy]

0.07°F?


Won't someone think of the children!?!?!?!

 

[PokerGuy]

Obviously, handing over your money to Gore and others like him will surely fix the problem. That, and giving more control to the EPA and other government agencies to jack up the price of electricity, that will fix it too.

 

[Ns1]

nm

 

[fskimospy]

I don't recall seeing this in a thread.

But I'm sure the "global warming pause" is hiding somewhere inside the fabricated temperature data.

Here, let me provide a counterpoint:

1. Global warming is a lie, therefore do nothing.
2. Even if it's true scientists don't know because of a newspaper story about global cooling, therefore do nothing.
3. Even if scientists do know it's happening we can't say man is causing it, therefore do nothing.
4. Even if we can say man is causing it we can't stop it, therefore do nothing.
5. Even if we can stop it China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.
6. Even if China and India will go along it's too expensive, therefore do nothing.
7. Even if it's cost effective compared to the alternative fuck you, you're a commie.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Here, let me provide a counterpoint:

1. Global warming is a lie, therefore do nothing.
2. Even if it's true scientists don't know because of a newspaper story about global cooling, therefore do nothing.
3. Even if scientists do know it's happening we can't say man is causing it, therefore do nothing.
4. Even if we can say man is causing it we can't stop it, therefore do nothing.
5. Even if we can stop it China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.
6. Even if China and India will go along it's too expensive, therefore do nothing.
7. Even if it's cost effective compared to the alternative fuck you, you're a commie.

Yup, that about sums it up.

 

[dphantom]

I don't recall seeing this in a thread.



But I'm sure the "global warming pause" is hiding somewhere inside the fabricated temperature data.

No it was not the warmest on record and the "pause" continues.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There is doubt that 2014 is the warmest year on record and the odds are against that being the case. That's due to margin of error, however it would be among the warmest on record within a fraction of a degree of the record. Figured I head off the legalists.

 

[fskimospy]

No it was not the warmest on record and the "pause" continues.

No.

 

[rudeguy]

of course it was the warmest. The northern polar ice caps melted. How could it not be the warmest?

 

[PokerGuy]

Here, let me provide a counterpoint:

1. Global warming is a lie, therefore do nothing.
2. Even if it's true scientists don't know because of a newspaper story about global cooling, therefore do nothing.
3. Even if scientists do know it's happening we can't say man is causing it, therefore do nothing.
4. Even if we can say man is causing it we can't stop it, therefore do nothing.
5. Even if we can stop it China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.
6. Even if China and India will go along it's too expensive, therefore do nothing.
7. Even if it's cost effective compared to the alternative fuck you, you're a commie.

As opposed to "do something! no matter if it works or not, just do something! Anything!" , or "give all your money and control to the kooks who claim to have the answers!".

Either way, lousy argument.

 

[nickqt]

It doesn't matter.

Grab as much land as possible that is arable land and has potable water, and build a strong, tall wall.

Our species' overpopulation is going to be corrected.

Good luck!

 

[fskimospy]

As opposed to "do something! no matter if it works or not, just do something! Anything!" , or "give all your money and control to the kooks who claim to have the answers!".

Either way, lousy argument.

Except the difference here is that I'm basically directly quoting various denier arguments that have actually been used, repeatedly, while no one has ever said what you're trying to say.

 

[rudeguy]

Except the difference here is that I'm basically directly quoting various denier arguments that have actually been used, repeatedly, while no one has ever said what you're trying to say.

How can you basically directly quote?

You are either directly quoting or you are already breaking out the straw man

 

[fskimospy]

How can you basically directly quote?

You are either directly quoting or you are already breaking out the straw man

Uhmm, what? If someone says "We shouldn't do anything because China and India won't go along" and I say "China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.", that's not a direct quote, but it's basically one. Hope that clears it up.

In case you need a refresher, a straw man is where you misrepresent someone's argument to make it easier to defeat. There are numerous examples of people making every one of the arguments listed. Therefore, not a straw man.

 

[brycejones]

It snowed at my house last year. Global warming not found.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[thraashman]

It snowed at my house last year. Global warming not found.

With that attitude you could be a weatherman on Fox News!

 

[rudeguy]

Uhmm, what? If someone says "We shouldn't do anything because China and India won't go along" and I say "China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.", that's not a direct quote, but it's basically one. Hope that clears it up.

In case you need a refresher, a straw man is where you misrepresent someone's argument to make it easier to defeat. There are numerous examples of people making every one of the arguments listed. Therefore, not a straw man.

OK so link to where anyone has said what you posted.


I'll wait.

 

[PokerGuy]

Except the difference here is that I'm basically directly quoting various denier arguments that have actually been used, repeatedly, while no one has ever said what you're trying to say.

Huh? I don't care what they call it, that's what all the proposed "solutions" always come down to. Playing semantics doesn't change anything. Seeing all the alarmist crap gets pretty old when the same old tired bs "solutions" are out there.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, 'cause there's no cost to any of this, it's all just magical fairy dust that will make everything better. How could anyone be opposed??

 

[fskimospy]

OK so link to where anyone has said what you posted.


I'll wait.

You cannot be serious. Use the search function. They are not hard to find.

 

[PokerGuy]

Uhmm, what? If someone says "We shouldn't do anything because China and India won't go along" and I say "China and India won't go along, therefore do nothing.", that's not a direct quote, but it's basically one. Hope that clears it up.

Nobody says "China and India won't go along so do nothing", what they say is "there is no point in spending resources doing things when they will accomplish nothing anyway without China and India doing the same".

You're back to the "do something! Even if it won't actually accomplish anything, we have to do something!" argument.

 

[bshole]

Yeah, 'cause there's no cost to any of this, it's all just magical fairy dust that will make everything better. How could anyone be opposed??

I sincerely believe this is why Eski is so over the top pro-war. The more people who die in senseless wars the more better for the environment (people are killing the planet, therefor we must kill people). The ultimate solution would be a nice war between Russia and the USA which devolves into a world war. If we could only get casulties that reach into the hundreds of millions, perhaps then we could finally save the world from global warming..... a dying world where obesity is considered an epedemic (a concept largely unknown in world history except for the last century)..... LOL!!!!!

7/100ths of a degree last year? Shit dude, that is measurement error.

Thank god we haven't destroyed the economy over "global warming" prevention.... although we are most definitely destroying the landscape with those god awful windmills. I don't have a problem with the chicken littles blathering about the coming apocalypse SO long as we don't actually harm our economy to placate them.

 

[blastingcap]

I don't recall seeing this in a thread.

But I'm sure the "global warming pause" is hiding somewhere inside the fabricated temperature data.

Good thing we're overdue for an ice age. Maybe they will cancel each other out.

http://www.technologyreview.com/article/416786/global-warming-vs-the-next-ice-age/

"Now, carbon levels are approaching 400 ppmv as the burning of fossil fuels pumps more and more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Even if the rate of growth could be moderated enough to stabilize levels at about 550 ppmv, average temperatures might well rise by about 5 oC–with devastating effects for us earthlings, such as rising sea levels and dramatic changes in weather patterns.

But even that warming will not stave off the eventual return of huge glaciers, because ice ages last for millennia and fossil fuels will not.In about 300 years, all available fossil fuels may well have been consumed.Over the following centuries, excess carbon dioxide will naturally dissolve into the oceans or get trapped by the formation of carbonate minerals. Such processes won’t be offset by the industrial emissions we see today, and atmospheric carbon dioxide will slowly decline toward preindustrial levels. In about 2,000 years, when the types of planetary motions that can induce polar cooling start to coincide again, the current warming trend will be a distant memory."