"Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject"

[Jhhnn]

i don't believe it would result in a complete and total collapse. maybe some drastic change, but i think things would have been fine if we attacked the problem from a different angle vs this bandage on an axe wound approach we took. but in all honest you're really asking the wrong person :| i believe when things are meant to die they should be left to die so a complete and total collapse wouldn't have phased me in the least.

Spoken like a guy who thinks he's economically bulletproof. Only those of extreme wealth have the luxury of holding such sentiment, other than fools.

 

[sm625]

They, and we, ask the wrong question. Of course stimulus "works". If you lose your job and then go put 20 grand on your credit card, it certainly works to help keep up your standard of living. But to what end? The question we need to ask about this stimulus crap is: to what end? Obviously, that end is Greece.

 

[Ausm]

Such an angry liberal. Wayyyy more angry than first, eskimospy, ausm, or jhnn even.

Who me angry? I just feel it's my duty to combat blatant Right Wing hypocrisy which is a pretty easy job

 

[werepossum]

They, and we, ask the wrong question. Of course stimulus "works". If you lose your job and then go put 20 grand on your credit card, it certainly works to help keep up your standard of living. But to what end? The question we need to ask about this stimulus crap is: to what end? Obviously, that end is Greece.

Well said, and obviously true. Government stimulus works only as long as the government stimulus gravy train continues; neither an individual nor a country can borrow its way to prosperity. I do think though that the stimulus helped calm things down and stop (or at least slow) the bleeding. I doubt there is any significant long term benefit, but limiting damage is in and of itself a benefit.

 

[nick1985]

Who me angry? I just feel it's my duty to combat blatant Right Wing hypocrisy which is a pretty easy job

lol, come to think of it I should have left you out of the list. Umbrella is your replacement

 

[Jaskalas]

It's not "printing money". It's borrowing from the future so we can have a fucking future.

You know, like individuals do every day when they go into debt to buy medical care so they don't fucking die, or use debt to buy a house as an investment in the future and their quality of life, or for an education that will make the future better.

The amazing thing is that the conservative mind seems to have shut down and now fails to understand the concept of credit. You sure as hell understood when you were using debt to give tax cuts to the rich, and to fight the wars, and to subsidize the oil industry, and....

You don't understand the concept of there being limits to credit. Imagine another trillion onto our budget. 4.7 trillion is simply unaffordable. No one is going to be a creditor for that BS.

You're working under the assumption that there are no consequences to your actions. All you have to do is keep spending until the problem is solved. Spending is, and always has been, the problem. Spent too much on the dot com bubble, on the housing bubble, and now you want a new bubble the size of our entire currency. It's sheer lunacy!

What do you think Conservatives hated about Bush? His spending and big gov policies, cause that's all the Democrats stand for. We might as well have had you in office those eight years. This is where true conservatives take a stand and tell you flat out no more Democrats. No more spending.

The government, under Democrat leadership, is doing everything it possibly can to destroy the free market and replace it with centralized planning. You have to be stopped from meddling in it, or it can never recover.

 

[werepossum]

You don't understand the concept of there being limits to credit. Imagine another trillion onto our budget. 4.7 trillion is simply unaffordable. No one is going to be a creditor for that BS.

You're working under the assumption that there are no consequences to your actions. All you have to do is keep spending until the problem is solved. Spending is, and always has been, the problem. Spent too much on the dot com bubble, on the housing bubble, and now you want a new bubble the size of our entire currency. It's sheer lunacy!

What do you think Conservatives hated about Bush? His spending and big gov policies, cause that's all the Democrats stand for. We might as well have had you in office those eight years. This is where true conservatives take a stand and tell you flat out no more Democrats. No more spending.

The government, under Democrat leadership, is doing everything it possibly can to destroy the free market and replace it with centralized planning. You have to be stopped from meddling in it, or it can never recover.

Very well said.

 

[Ausm]

LMAO that dude looks like Barney Frank hahaha

 

[werepossum]

LMAO that dude looks like Barney Frank hahaha

Barney Frank confronted with a small penis.

 

[Ausm]

Barney Frank confronted with a small penis.

lmao

 

[Craig234]

They, and we, ask the wrong question. Of course stimulus "works". If you lose your job and then go put 20 grand on your credit card, it certainly works to help keep up your standard of living. But to what end? The question we need to ask about this stimulus crap is: to what end? Obviously, that end is Greece.

That's an irrational last sentence. Try being rational to the reasonable question you ask.

 

[First]

You don't understand the concept of there being limits to credit. Imagine another trillion onto our budget. 4.7 trillion is simply unaffordable. No one is going to be a creditor for that BS.

You're working under the assumption that there are no consequences to your actions. All you have to do is keep spending until the problem is solved. Spending is, and always has been, the problem. Spent too much on the dot com bubble, on the housing bubble, and now you want a new bubble the size of our entire currency. It's sheer lunacy!

What do you think Conservatives hated about Bush? His spending and big gov policies, cause that's all the Democrats stand for. We might as well have had you in office those eight years. This is where true conservatives take a stand and tell you flat out no more Democrats. No more spending.

The government, under Democrat leadership, is doing everything it possibly can to destroy the free market and replace it with centralized planning. You have to be stopped from meddling in it, or it can never recover.

lol, what a load of horseshit.

 

[nick1985]

lol, what a load of horseshit.

 

[Craig234]

What do you think Conservatives hated about Bush? His spending and big gov policies, cause that's all the Democrats stand for. We might as well have had you in office those eight years. This is where true conservatives take a stand and tell you flat out no more Democrats. No more spending.

The government, under Democrat leadership, is doing everything it possibly can to destroy the free market and replace it with centralized planning. You have to be stopped from meddling in it, or it can never recover.

Totally clueless. Conservatives loved the sales pitch Bush spewed that was terrible. They might not have liked his massive deficit increases, but his spending was not like the Democrats. You are wrong about 'might as well have had a Democrat', a Democrat would have been far better. By the way, which party's President balanced the budget before Bush? Who ran on continuing fiscal conservatism against Bush in 2000, and wouldn't have had the tax cut for the rich on borrowed money?

You go off the deep end after that, ignorant of what economic policies the country needs, spouting ideology.

Conservatives' definition of 'recovery' is more wealth shifted to the top.

 

[werepossum]

Totally clueless. Conservatives loved the sales pitch Bush spewed that was terrible. They might not have liked his massive deficit increases, but his spending was not like the Democrats. You are wrong about 'might as well have had a Democrat', a Democrat would have been far better. By the way, which party's President balanced the budget before Bush? Who ran on continuing fiscal conservatism against Bush in 2000, and wouldn't have had the tax cut for the rich on borrowed money?

You go off the deep end after that, ignorant of what economic policies the country needs, spouting ideology.

Conservatives' definition of 'recovery' is more wealth shifted to the top.

The myth that Clinton balanced the budget is just that. Clinton's budget starting in '95 were DOA - the Pubbies had to introduce them for a vote as the Democrats wouldn't even introduce them. And Clinton vetoed appropriations bills ONLY when he wanted to make the Repubs spend more, not less.

 

[BoberFett]

It's not "printing money". It's borrowing from the future so we can have a fucking future.

Wow. Do you realize how crazy you sound?

 

[momeNt]

Wow. Do you realize how crazy you sound?

No crazier than a mother who eats her babies to stay alive.

Otty Sanchez, meet your new husband Throckmorton!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/otty-sanchez-woman-accuse_n_245627.html

Remember that the mother's weight gain during pregnancy is directly related to the birth weight and all Otty wants is the brain so more for you if you keep that in mind!

 

[JSt0rm]

No crazier than a mother who eats her babies to stay alive.

Otty Sanchez, meet your new husband Throckmorton!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/otty-sanchez-woman-accuse_n_245627.html

Remember that the mother's weight gain during pregnancy is directly related to the birth weight and all Otty wants is the brain so more for you if you keep that in mind!

Yes this is a accurate portrait of the average liberal.